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Boston And More Government Lies

April 29, 2013 by Bob Livingston

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A SWAT team sniper in an armored vehicle looks down Bigelow Avenue during a manhunt for one of the two Boston Marathon bombing suspects on April 19.
The Saudi Arabian “person of interest” who was hospitalized with serious injuries and then held under guard at a hospital because he was suspected of playing a part in the Boston Marathon bombing is just a college student who happened to be enjoying the annual spectacle.
Two Chechnyan brothers — one a naturalized U.S. citizen — who heretofore were unknown to the U.S. security apparatus, became radicalized for unknown reasons. Using instructions found online, they fabricated bombs using kitchen utensils, hardware junk and fireworks, concealed them in a backpack and duffle bag and detonated them near the finish line of the race.
Days later, after the FBI solicited the help of the public in identifying two men in grainy video images, the two Chechnyan brothers came out of hiding, killed an MIT police officer in cold blood in an effort to steal his sidearm, car jacked an Asian man, drove to a convenience store and robbed it, then engaged in a firefight with police. The two men were armed with a small arsenal of five pipe bombs, an M-4 carbine, two handguns and a BB gun. They planned to kill as many people as they could and then, depending on who is talking, blow up New York or party there, authorities said.
During the early morning hours of Friday, April 19, the two men battled with police, exchanging gunfire and exploding at least one of their bombs. At least 200 rounds were fired by the cops. The suspects fired back 80 or more at police. The older brother, identified as Tamerlan Tsarnaev, was apprehended when he ran toward police while firing his weapon. Tamerlan was on the ground being handcuffed by police when younger brother Dzhokhar — by all accounts of friends a nice and friendly guy who had never expressed jihadist opinions — drove over him in a stolen SUV, dragging the body at least 30 feet before it became disentangled from the vehicle’s undercarriage.
This violent exchange, in which police believe they wounded Dzhokhar, led to a voluntary lockdown of the town of Watertown, part of greater Boston. Residents and business owners were encouraged but not forced to stay inside all of Friday while police, FBI and National Guard troops and equipment scoured the neighborhood for the criminal terrorist. Police tactical units, armed in full SWAT or military gear conducted house-to-house searches, asking people to exit their homes at gunpoint, strongly encouraging them (with threats) to raise their hands (even if they were of different sex, race and age of the known suspect) and be frisked.
The suspect was finally located hiding in a boat in a Watertown backyard by the boat’s owner, who had noticed the tarp covering the boat was loose. Peering beneath the tarp, the homeowner saw the suspect, bleeding and asleep or unconscious, and called police.
Well-armed and fitted with an explosive vest, the suspect posed grave risk to law enforcement. So they surrounded the area, engaged in another firefight with him and finally apprehended him. Having been injured in the throat, the suspect is unable to talk, but he did manage to confess to the plot before being read his Miranda rights by a Boston judge.
As best I can tell, this is the official narrative of the Boston Marathon bombing. It is the story the FBI and the rest of government wants you to believe. Because it’s coming from the FBI and being parroted by the government propaganda machine mainstream media, it must be the truth. The masses have accepted it as such and have now moved on to more important interests like the NBA playoffs, the NFL draft, “American Idol” or some other mindless, inconsequential pursuit.
However, now we — at least those of us who pay attention — know, thanks to Glenn Beck, the Saudi person of interest is not just some innocent bystander after all.
Just hours after the April 15 bombing, Abdul Rahman Ali Alharbi was put on a terror watch list and had an event file created that indicated he was armed and dangerous; and actions began that would lead to his deportation. Alharbi, who is related to a number of terrorists now residing in Gitmo and/or listed as part of al-Qaida, was admitted to the United States under a “special advisory opinion,” indicating someone pulled some strings for him. His strings go a long way — all the way to the White House, where Alharbi was a frequent visitor (seven times since 2009). His file contained one prior event, indicating he was already in the terrorism watch list system. Yet even though he’s marked as a terrorist, he was allowed in. Perhaps that explains Michelle Obama’s hospital visit. Alharbi and the Obamas are friends.
After news of his possible deportation leaked, government officials backtracked. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano refused to answer questions from a Congressman about Alharbi. An Immigration and Customs Enforcement official told Beck a different Saudi was in custody but not connected to the bombing.
Someone altered Alharbi’s file on April 17 in a way that disassociated him from the bombing, according to Beck, but an original had been printed out and saved. The change happened around the time that first Secretary of State John Kerry and then President Barack Obama met with the Saudi foreign minister — a meeting that wasn’t on Obama’s schedule.
There are photographs on the Internet that purport to show Alharbi with two other Saudis near the bomb site.
If the government will lie about who Alharbi is and whether his is a suspect, what else about the official narrative is a lie?
Despite initial claims by the FBI that included a request to help identify the two men in the video, the Tsarnaev brothers have been known to that agency and the CIA for some time. According to their mother, the FBI interviewed them five years ago. The CIA was warned about Tamerlan by Russian authorities almost two years ago. He was on at least two terrorist watch lists. He was flagged so that his travel outside the U.S. would create an alert. They may have been so well-known to the government security apparatus that they were, in fact, double agents.
If the FBI will lie about knowing who the suspects were, what other portions of the story are false?
Police begin to look pretty incompetent if they are having a shootout involving dozens of police officers and just two suspects if the suspects escape, even if the suspects are armed with several weapons. But now we know that the pair did not have an arsenal, as first reported, but only one Ruger 9 mm handgun.
If police will lie about the weapons the pair had and what happened during the shootout, what else are they lying about?
The doctor who first examined Tamerlan said the suspect was in cardiac arrest when he was brought to the emergency room. The doctor described him as suffering from gunshot wounds and a possible blast injury to the trunk that included thermal burns. No mention was made of injuries sustained from being run over by a car. A witness to the shootout who took photographs out his window said Dzhokhar drove through the police barricade, striking two police cars as he did. He did not mention Tamerlan being run over.
If the police will lie about Tamerlan’s cause of death, what else are they lying about?
Police fired dozens of rounds at the boat in which Dzhokhar was hiding. He came out of the boat with a wound to the throat. The MSM reports it was a wound so serious it may leave him unable to speak. It may have been a suicide attempt, police say. Except, he wasn’t armed. He didn’t have a suicide vest. USA Today says this “undercuts initial accounts that the 19-year-old university student was heavily armed, had shot at police and possibly had an explosive device.” And the wound was small and more like a knife cut or a shrapnel wound, according to one of the SWAT team members who arrested Dzhokhar. And as Robert Wenzel notes, notice the reaction of other SWAT members at about 4:50 on the video as the man speaking describes the cut. Did he deviate from the official narrative?
If police will lie about the weapons Dzhokhar had and the extent of his injuries, how much of the rest of the narrative is a lie?
As Jon Rappoport points out, the government’s bomb narrative is fishy. The piece of metal that was purported to be remains of a pressure cooker bomb shows no evidence of having contained shrapnel. The bomb blast was designed to stay low, indicating a level of sophistication far above reading a how-to article on an al-Qaida website.
Official information about Craft operatives who were seen before the explosions, some of them walking around with radiation detectors, is likewise questionable, not that the MSM and their mindless watchers are questioning it. Runners report seeing bomb-sniffing dogs being used before the event and being told a drill was being conducted. Boston police claim there was no drill. More lies!
The FBI claims it’s looking for other members of the Tsarnaev’s terror cell. Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick insists they acted alone. It can’t be both, but no one outside of alternative media is asking which it is.
The FBI, the CIA and other non-government organizations (NGOs) use patsies to stage terror events. Even Obama mouthpiece The New York Times has outed the FBI for staging terror attacks so it could swoop in at the last minute and “save” Americans from attacks that would not have happened without FBI help. They have long been known to lie to advance their agendas: Aurora, Colo.; Newtown; Waco; Ruby Ridge; Oklahoma City; 9/11; Gulf of Tonkin; USS Liberty — the “official” stories on all these are lies.
Yet the people take what government says as gospel and move on. Normalcy bias, or perhaps psychosis, keeps them asleep and happy and thinking there is a government intending to keep them safe. That way, they’re not distracted from their television shows, their iPads or their sporting events.
 

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Every time there is a "terrorist attack" you must look to see what's really going on.
At the same time of the Boston bombing there was a missile strike in West, TX. This destroyed many houses, left many homeless and was ignored by the media because of the focus on Boston. There is a light coming in against the direction of the wind, followed by an explosion at that already on fire fertilizer plant. If it were sparks from the fire it would be going in the direction of the wind, not against it.
Hellfire Missile Caused West Texas Explosion? - YouTube

This one you can hear it, and the kid's ears were hurt.
Official video Fertilizer plant explosion in West, Texas - YouTube

Yeah, who was that Saudi? And why was he so quickly flown out of the country?

I just don't trust the government any more. The 9/11 official story is ridiculous.
 
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I think I first heard of it a couple years defore Ruby Ridge; then I heard more and more as I started thinking.
Then I hasd to agree with what's her name... Rosie something (I hated to agree but...)
I heard about the battleship Maine ... then there are other things.
I suggest people get Saved in a hurry; it's gonna happen soon.
 
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Of course the Boston bombing was a false flag. Many people know that. The Blackwater-like mercenary group was there before the bombing. They were the ones with the dark shirts and hats and, I think, khaki pants. They had a black patch on their back packs and the Tsarnaev brothers didn't have those black patches but the backpacks carrying the "bombs" did. As a nurse, I was surprised that with so many "body parts" supposedly flying in the air there was very little blood at the site of the attack. The area should have been saturated.

There is a website called "Before It's News" and there was a video which showed Tamerlan Tsarnaev in handcuffs and naked, being led into the squad car. It was very clear that it was him. What I want to know is how did he end up dead after being taken into custody? The video could be gone by now, but it might still be there.

I saw a cell phone video of the "practice" martial law in Boston and it showed the police or National Guard, not sure which, knocking on doors and yelling at people to get out with their hands over their heads. Geesh, couldn't they have just calmly asked them to go outside their homes temporarily? All of the businesses were closed down and everyone was told to stay home, all to find a 19 yr. old.

The news media keeps bringing this up because the government knows they're busted. They know that most people don't believe that this was an organized Muslim attack.

So, what is the government trying to do? If they want to make everyone afraid of Muslim terrorist attacks, then why do they show preferential treatment to Muslims and Muslim governments? Are they trying to make us crazy? Confuse us or what? Do they just want people to hate each other?

Anyway, this attempt to simulate a terror attack failed miserably. :(
 
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tulc(wonders if there's enough of this to protect our brains?) :scratch:
 
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I have an idea :)

Instead of worrying about what may or may not ever happen, trust Christ for everything for He is everything. The world is a beautiful place and is in need of His love, mercy and grace. Let the light of Christ that is within you shine into a world that is dying so that others may come to Him to be free of fear and to receive the greatest gift anyone could ever receive - His salvation

Christ is everything! He is alive in me today!
 
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What is it now for this Iraq crisis?
They're figuring out they may have shot themselves in the foot by thinking they could get rid of Saddam before finding a suitably reliable puppet to replace him with. Now they realize they have to wait until the bloodbath is over to start the whole process over by making a dirty deal with the survivor.
The CIA lacks focus on some of it's sinister (Fed Resrv) objectives because they haven't been able to weed out all the good guys.
 
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Mans wisdom is foolishness to God....

3 Since you have been raised to new life with Christ, set your sights on the realities of heaven, where Christ sits in the place of honor at God’s right hand.
2 Think about the things of heaven, not the things of earth.
3 For you died to this life, and your real life is hidden with Christ in God.
4 And when Christ, who is your life, is revealed to the whole world, you will share in all his glory.

16 Let the message about Christ, in all its richness, fill your lives. Teach and counsel each other with all the wisdom he gives. Sing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs to God with thankful hearts. 17 And whatever you do or say, do it as a representative of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through him to God the Father. (Colossians 3)
 
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Can you provide any documented case where such a tactic was undeniably attributed to any federal agency?

What are they alleging you have done or are doing that might warrant any observation?

Why are you on a public forum documenting all of this if you believe there to be a real issue?

Google them some time, they've even got their own Wiki & Urban Dictionary Entries.
 
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