Borat

[philN]

I think the point of Borat is lost on a lot of people.

Sacha Baron Cohen (Borat, Ali G) uses the character of Borat -- an ignorant, prejudiced, racist foreigner -- as a means of bringing out the racism and prejudices of Americans.

If Borat was scripted, I would probably say that it was over-the-top, contrived, and lacking in subtlety; however, all of the scenes featuring Borat talking to other people (aside from his manager) were totally unscripted.

So when Borat goes into a Pentecostal church and people tell him to make funny noises and then say that they are coming from Jesus -- that is not Sacha Baron Cohen writing a scene that mocks Christians, that is Christians mocking themselves by being ridiculous.

It's 2006, people. The fact that right now, in 2006, a man dressed up as a foreigner can get people to go on the record saying homosexuals should be hung, women should be slaves, and what gun is best to kill jews with should be eye-opening. We think we've progressed so much, but in reality, there are still hotbed for racism throughout America.

Sacha Baron Cohen is Jewish, yet he uses a character that is anti-semitic to poke fun at the irrationality of racism.

If you were offended by the movie, that is fine -- it's not for everyone. But to write it off as something that Christians should not see altogether is missing the point. Mixed in with the toilet humor and gross out gags is some startlingly brilliant social satire.

 

[SH89]

Thank you/\

That one scene where Borat went into that church is shocking because it reveals how far into heresy some "sects" of Christianity have gone.

What if Borat was sincere? What if Borat wanted to accept Yeshua as his Messiah?

Those freaks didn't present how Yeshua is the Messiah(like the Apotles did in the beginning of Acts), but they did act like kangaroos--jumping up and down and making weird noises. I hope this spread of emotionalism tied with the "slaying of the Spirit", "dying in the Spirit", etc., dies;I really hope this doesn't become mainstream Christianity.

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

I think the point of Borat is lost on a lot of people.

Sacha Baron Cohen (Borat, Ali G) uses the character of Borat -- an ignorant, prejudiced, racist foreigner -- as a means of bringing out the racism and prejudices of Americans.

If Borat was scripted, I would probably say that it was over-the-top, contrived, and lacking in subtlety; however, all of the scenes featuring Borat talking to other people (aside from his manager) were totally unscripted.

So when Borat goes into a Pentecostal church and people tell him to make funny noises and then say that they are coming from Jesus -- that is not Sacha Baron Cohen writing a scene that mocks Christians, that is Christians mocking themselves by being ridiculous.

It's 2006, people. The fact that right now, in 2006, a man dressed up as a foreigner can get people to go on the record saying homosexuals should be hung, women should be slaves, and what gun is best to kill jews with should be eye-opening. We think we've progressed so much, but in reality, there are still hotbed for racism throughout America.

Sacha Baron Cohen is Jewish, yet he uses a character that is anti-semitic to poke fun at the irrationality of racism.

If you were offended by the movie, that is fine -- it's not for everyone. But to write it off as something that Christians should not see altogether is missing the point. Mixed in with the toilet humor and gross out gags is some startlingly brilliant social satire.

Right- or the fact that when he was speaking to the rodeo crowd and stated that "he hopes Bush kills and drinks the blood from the men, women and children..." and the crowd CHEERED even LOUDER should say something about the way that Americans are behaving.

I mean, he choose to do this in America- when he could have done it anywhere else (although I doubt he would have had the same reactions in many of the situations )

 

[Sign Of The Fish Burger]

At any rate, my husband and I went to see it last night and despite too much frontal male nudity *shudders* we laughed ourselves stupid.

I personally thought it was brilliant- my husband not as much as I did, but maybe it's because I'm not an American (just living in the country) I'm able to see things that he cannot

 

[Theogonia]

Let’s do what Einstein used to call a thought experiment. (Although popularized by Einstein, the term was originally used by Hans Christian Ørsted. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thought_experiment .)

Anyway, in this thought experiment, there is a scene in this hypothetical movie in which a dog lifts his hind leg in order to urinate on an object of religious veneration such as the Christian Cross or the Jewish Star of David, or perhaps the animal would urinate on a painting or statue of Mohammed or Krishna.

Although the dog does not know what he is doing, the director(s) and the writer(s) do. I would consider such a scene to be an insult to a person’s religious beliefs.

Urination and copying what someone is doing are two different things.

It would be unrealistic to have the character behave in any other way.

Hell if I was in another country and they appeared to be performing some sort of ritual I might try an mimic them. But according to you that would be insulting their beliefs.

 

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I can't wait to see it myself - no movie theater here so I have to wait for the DVD release. I'm familiar with Borat from Showcase and think he's utterly hilarious!!!

And he's brilliant - the way he can ad-lib this stuff is spectacular! This will probably be one of the few movies that I'll actually buy instead of rent.

 

[Redguard]

Okay, so I just finished watching a bootleg copy of the movie on the laptop.

Unfortunately, I laughed really hard. I can't help it... there were some really funny parts and there were some parts where I covered my face with sheer embarassment.

I didn't mind watching a bootleg because I know my wife would never agree to watch this with me, and honestly, it's not something I'd want to "spend" money on.

However, the movie is really crude with it's humour, so you have to be able to handle it to enjoy the movie.

For me, the most shocking part was when Borat and his buddy were... um... wrestling in the hotel and then ran into the elevator with all those people. Wow.