Booklet on marriage (please read it or order it: its free)

[RMDY]

http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/FM


Please read this entire book before discussing the issues on homosexuality and gay marriage on this topic.

This particular chapter is more appropriate on homosexual marriage: http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/FM/homosexuality.htm


Further articles:
http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn48/samesexmarriage.htm

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

When you find me a book that doesn't have Christian bias written all over the cover, I'll consider it. Otherwise it will just be repeating everything I've already been fed.

 

[RMDY]

When you find me a book that doesn't have Christian bias written all over the cover, I'll consider it. Otherwise it will just be repeating everything I've already been fed.

Read it. It is clear and compelling.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

I read that homosexual chapter, and it automatically assumes, for the most part, that because some homosexuals "change", then all homosexuality can change. Verses aside.

Homosexuality doesn't change. Heterosexuality is just realized.

 

[RMDY]

I read that homosexual chapter, and it automatically assumes, for the most part, that because some homosexuals "change", then all homosexuality can change. Verses aside.

Homosexuality doesn't change. Heterosexuality is just realized.

If some homosexuals can change, then it is possible.
That is proof enough.

Did you also read the part on the twins? One twin grew up gay and the other twin did not.

 

[Brieuse]

Read it. It is clear and compelling.

Get over yourself boet, I'm not going to go and marry a woman to have children with her.

 

[Brieuse]

If some homosexuals can change, then it is possible.
That is proof enough.

Did you also read the part on the twins? One twin grew up gay and the other twin did not.

They're propagating an outdated myth regarding child rearing. I'd appreciate it if you guys could stop implying my dad was a bad father, he was incredible as a dad.

 

[RMDY]

Get over yourself boet, I'm not going to go and marry a woman to have children with her.

I didn't say you had to do that. I am saying the book is clear and compelling. Any homosexual that ignores these written materials is proof enough such people only will do what they want to do according to their physical needs.

They wish to dispute God's word and bastardize it with false teachings.

The mind of mankind is hostile to God.

For example, these booklets helped me relize I haven't been keeping one of the 10 commandments: observing the Sabath.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

If some homosexuals can change, then it is possible.
That is proof enough.

Did you also read the part on the twins? One twin grew up gay and the other twin did not.

No, those weren't homosexuals. They may have thought that, but they really weren't. There are heterosexuals like this too. Many more in fact, that deny love in favor of acceptance. So there is not proof here.

I did. So heterosexuality isn't genetic.

 

[RMDY]

They're propagating an outdated myth regarding child rearing. I'd appreciate it if you guys could stop implying my dad was a bad father, he was incredible as a dad.

I didn't imply your dad was a bad father. I suggested a point: one twin grew up one way and the other twin grew up another.

No one has judged you Brieuse.

 

[RMDY]

No, those weren't homosexuals. They may have thought that, but they really weren't. There are heterosexuals like this too. Many more in fact, that deny love in favor of acceptance. So there is not proof here.

I did. So heterosexuality isn't genetic.

I didn't say it was or wasn't genetic. The point I made was that one can change their behaviour or grow up a certain way.

 

[RMDY]

In your case, this link applies to some of you:
http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn48/homosexuals.htm

"Dr. Joseph Nicolosi is a clinical psychologist. He is the president of NARTH, the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, a 1,000-member organization. Dr. Nicolosi has successfully treated thousands of patients to help men transition from homosexuality to heterosexuality. He is author of several books, including Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality and Reparative Therapy of Male Homosexuality."

So your telling me the guy who converted thousands of homosexuals to hetrosexuality actually didn't do that?

 

[Brieuse]

I didn't say you had to do that. I am saying the book is clear and compelling. Any homosexual that ignores these written materials is proof enough such people only will do what they want to do according to their physical needs.

They wish to dispute God's word and bastardize it with false teachings.

The mind of mankind is hostile to God.

For example, these booklets helped me relize I haven't been keeping one of the 10 commandments: observing the Sabath.

It is clear and compelling, and distorts the truth to condemn a minority group.

 

[Libre]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NARTH

What is it about sex, especially if it's males, that gets us so upset? I can empathize with all good Christians who want to save the homosexual soul. And who are afraid that homosexuality will damn them forever. And afraid it will contaminate their own sons, and so on. I was once like that.

But thank God, He showed me that we have it all wrong. In fact, underneath the strongest rhetoric is usually the weakest argument. It is fear driven, and the love of Jesus has very little to do with it. Love the sinner and hate the sin is not appropriate, for it's like loving a person buy hating their eye color. Ridiculous.

The good Dr. is grasping as straws and going against his own peers. Just to appear to agree with the Bible. Which he doesn't, because the Bible does not speak to homosexuality in general but to sin in particular - temple prostitution, pederasty and man-stealing. Things we find abhorrent yet today, God has spoken out against. It's not sex that upsets God, it's idolatry and an evil heart. He is a jealous God, but not a prude. He requires us to love and do no harm, to love Him above all else. If we do this, we won't be sinning.

Libre

 

[RMDY]

It is clear and compelling, and distorts the truth to condemn a minority group.

Nothing is distorting the truth to condemn anyone. I don't see the book telling homosexuals that they are not going to be saved:

The book says the acts of homosexuality are wrong and sinful, which several homosexuals on here cannot accept.

I am only giving proof that homosexuality is a sin. Here it is, clear and compelling evidence that bluntly states it with scripture to back it up.

But some homosexuals cannot accept it.

I don't see anyone saying any of their other articles are wrong? Have you seen them? I dont' see anyone telling me their article about Jesus Christ is wrong. I don't see anyone saying their articles about the New Covenant are biased.
http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/TC/


God's love for you allowed you to wash your sins away, not reindulge in them. Why are you all in bondage to sin. Repent!

God bless you all

- Rob