Bode's Rule

[David Waffen]

right, so rather than having a great big neon sign floating in the sky that says GOD RXISTS on it, God gives evidence by creating the laws of physics in such a way that planets form at certain distances from the sun.

'k.

People would just say their god or goddesses were the ones responsible. It would be too easy to abuse. Instead, we find a message in the very fabric of the universe.

 

[Jet Black]

I trap them with math and science.

ITT we watch david's ego bloat.

 

[David Waffen]

coming from you? yes.



That profit line was a joke, which apperently you didn't get. evolve some humor Waffle.

Waffen. Please refrain from doing that during this topic.

 

[Jet Black]

People would just say their god or goddesses were the ones responsible. It would be too easy to abuse. Instead, we find a message in the very fabric of the universe.

and that would be bode's rule. so rather than your god giving a decent signal, he gives us bode's rule, a mathematical curiosity which could well have some other natural explanation anyway. why don't you try telling us about the ratios of planetary days to their orbital periods and demonstrating how that proves God?

 

[Magnus Vile]

I think it is obvious, our Universe is laid out in such a way to prove something to us.

Then why the innacuracies in the formula? Why don't we see them at exactly the positions predicted? Surely that would be a trivial job for god?

 

[David Waffen]

and that would be bode's rule. so rather than your god giving a decent signal, he gives us bode's rule, a mathematical curiosity which could well have some other natural explanation anyway. why don't you try telling us about the ratios of planetary days to their orbital periods and demonstrating how that proves God?

That's not the only instance. Another example is the distances and circumferences of the Sun and moon, which can align and form an eclipse.

 

[Jet Black]

please david:

 

[David Waffen]

Then why the innacuracies in the formula? Why don't we see them at exactly the positions predicted? Surely that would be a trivial job for god?

So, you demand 0 deviation and 100% odds? Funny, because evolutionists don't.

 

[David Waffen]

please david:

I'm familar with the laws of thermodynamics, do you have a point?

 

[Jet Black]

So, you demand 0 deviation and 100% odds? Funny, because evolutionists don't.

that's because evoution doesn't lead to perfection. God has higher standards, after all the universe was "very good". My art teacher would complain if my lines were wobbly.

 

[Jet Black]

I'm familar with the laws of thermodynamics, do you have a point?

just in case you missed it:

 

[David Waffen]

that's because evoution doesn't lead to perfection. God has higher standards, after all the universe was "very good". My art teacher would complain if my lines were wobbly.

Wobbles serve a purpose, they provide us with summer and winter.

 

[Jet Black]

on neptune?

 

[David Waffen]

just in case you missed it:

Yes, that's just as intelligent and stimulating as my calculations regarding Bode's rule.

 

[David Waffen]

on neptune?

Its wobble provides data. Sadly, no one has deciphered it yet.

 

[Jet Black]

oh I can imagine the weather reports from neptune.

"Today you can expect ferocious winds up to 400mph, air quality today will be moderately to extremely lethal. Please wear thick clothing, as it is winter after all and the temperature on the surface will be between -220 and -223 degrees celsius."

 

[Jet Black]

Yes, that's just as intelligent and stimulating as my calculations regarding Bode's rule.

I am pleased that you acknowledge that your calculations regarding Bode's rule were not at all intelligent or stimulating.

 

[Jet Black]

Its wobble provides data. Sadly, no one has deciphered it yet.

but you just did though!

bode's rule therefore God, remember?

 

[Magnus Vile]

So, you demand 0 deviation and 100% odds? Funny, because evolutionists don't.

No, I don't. But as an atheist I don't see how this innacurate, though vaguely interesting 'rule' proves anything about the existance of god. If god were attempting to prove something then why wouldn't it be perfect? Assuming he has the amount of power he is claimed to have in the bible, that is.

What is the value, for god, in a flawed 'proof' in the position of the planets? It won't convince anyone that god did it unless they already believed that were the case. Those positions could be due to the laws of physics, (which I suspect is the case) or they could be entirely due to chance. Without a valid comparison all we have is a statistical oddity. (And a poor one at that)

 

[David Waffen]

I am pleased that you acknowledge that your calculations regarding Bode's rule were not at all intelligent or stimulating.

I don't think your sarcasm is warranted.