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[JRW1989]

The British are not all Saxons.

- it was a comment. It's not meant to be factually correct

so what? it goes against the bible, big deal.

- .....ok....it's a big deal if you're a christian. Just like your belief that atheism is right and everyone else is wrong.

Is not contraception against the bible? are you as vocal or agressive against people who wear condoms or take the pill?

No, I don't think it is.

40,000 years?

- re-read my earlier quote and refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Britain

 

[TemperateSeaIsland]

Does that make the Black Police Association racist for not allowing whites?

Up to a point it is, I can understand why it was formed but I disagree that it was the best way of helping minorities being discriminated in the police force. Becoming insular when faced with discrimination is never a good option.

Anyone else up for embryo experimentation?

Yes

 

[sebastian]

why do they have that right?

for the reasons I stated.
if we can invade thier country and rule over them and tell them we are better than them. well, why not let them come here. we messed them around. besides, what's the problem with anyone being here?

 

[Bonhoffer]

- if you've got proof then maybe i'll take the comment seriously. If you're going to make accusations like that then you need a reference to back them up

RE: BNP paganism The following originally appeared in BNP literature. The first
statement still appears in the BNPs mission statement on their website.

‘We value the folkways and customs which have been passed down through countless generations. We enthuse with pride at the marvels of architecture and engineering that have been completed on these islands since the construction of the great megaliths 7,000 years ago.

‘Schools in England will be encouraged to celebrate May Day and other ancient festivals, whilst the other folk nations of the British Isles will be encouraged to resurrect their ancestral folk traditions.’

RE:Evolutionism
Quote from BNP spokesman Dr Edwards

‘Scientists studying various primates have now discovered that murderous 'wars' against different groups of the same species are as frequent among our non‑human relatives as they are among us.'

So in other words humans are naturally barbaric because we come from animals

 

[InnocentOdion]

Lol, to make this clear to all the dunces who haven't figured it out yet: I don't support BNP or like them, and neither am I deluding myself. I don't think they are racist. Fascists and racialists, maybe, but racism doesn't cover it. Don't like gay people, either.

 

[Allister]

it was a comment. It's not meant to be factually correct

X. The British character. Shaped by and in turn shaping our national institutions is our character as a people: stubborn, stoical, indignant at injustice. "The Saxon," wrote Kipling, "never means anything seriously till he talks about justice and right."

Maybe not, but its obvious implication (quoted from the "10 core values of British identity) is that the British character is a that of Saxons.

.....ok....it's a big deal if you're a christian

I understand that but the bible was written a long long time ago. times change.

No, I don't think it is.

I'm sure you or someone else could find some bible passages that imply that contraception is wrong. otherwise why are strict Catholics against it?

Quote:
40,000 years?
- re-read my earlier quote and refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prehistoric_Britain

This article has nothing to do with the modern inhabitants of Britian. The people mentioned in the article were pre-historic hunter gatherers living before and during the ice-age when Britian was connected to Europe by a land bridge. These people are no longer around and their genes are most likely spread extremly thin throughout the current population.

A few snippets from the Wiki site you quoted:

The story of ancient Britain is traditionally seen as one of successive waves of settlers from the continent, bringing with them new cultures and technologies

Many of the changes in British society demonstrated in the archaeological record are now suggested to be the effects of the native inhabitants adopting foreign customs rather than being subsumed by an invading population.

The inhabitants of the region at this time were bands of hunter-gatherers who roamed all over northern Europe following herds of animals.

Traditionally the arrival of the Neolithic in Britain has been seen as a wave of immigration from the continent, supplanting the local hunter-gatherers

In around 2,700 BC a new culture arrived in Britain, often referred to as the Beaker culture.

In around 750 BC iron working techniques reached Britain from southern Europe.

The last centuries before the Roman invasion saw an influx of refugees from Gaul (modern day France and Belgium)

It seems that immigration and the sharing of cultures is quite natural.

 

[Iosias]

I will stick with the Conservative Party

 

[sebastian]

I'm sure you or someone else could find some bible passages that imply that contraception is wrong. otherwise why are strict Catholics against it?

theres a verse somewhere in genesis that says something like, don't let your seed fall on the ground" in other words don't waste it. as far as I know that's the only reference. not really agaisnt contraseption at all. it was in the context that this guy called onan refused to give his brothers wife a child (his brother was dead) according to Jewish law by pulling out early and not getting her pregnant.

 

[Iosias]

theres a verse somewhere in genesis that says something like, don't let your seed fall on the ground" in other words don't waste it. as far as I know that's the only reference. not really agaisnt contraseption at all. it was in the context that this guy called onan refused to give his brothers wife a child (his brother was dead) according to Jewish law by pulling out early and not getting her pregnant.

Scripture clearly teaches that sexual intercourse is for procreation and so anything that stops procreation is sinful.

 

[sebastian]

sex is a union between husband and wife to be enjoyed, i agree with family planning 'cos you can't raise up 100 kids, nor should you refuse to have sex with your partner.

maybe this should be a new topic if you wanna talk about it, it's not got a lot to do with the BNP, sorry.

 

[Iosias]

sex is a union between husband and wife to be enjoyed, i agree with family planning 'cos you can't raise up 100 kids, nor should you refuse to have sex with your partner.

maybe this should be a new topic if you wanna talk about it, it's not got a lot to do with the BNP, sorry.

No worries and I certainly take issue with your position so if you set up a new thread let me know (you confuse sex an marriage).

 

[sebastian]

in the general theology forum.

 

[TheLordReigns]

Hey All

Just out of interest, where do you stand as a Christian when it comes to the British National Party?

People label them as racist thugs yet they stand for good moral teaching in schools (i.e. non of this secular multicultural and multi-religion teaching), stand against Homosexuality and also against the Islamification of the United Kingdom (which I believe is the single greatest threat to Western civilisation and indeed Chrisitianity).

I'll probably get hate mail or something but i'm an ex-member and I am considering re-applying for membership this year.

All the other parties are more bothered about the rights of sinners than supporting the church. You only have to look at the Labour & Conservative pro-gay legislation which is going to force Catholic (and some jewish and muslim) adoption agencies to close. The Lib dems are just as bad with their MP (Phil Willis) saying that banning embryo testing (mixing human and animals together) will be bad for science.

Any comments welcome

Hi JRW,
I'm an evangelical Christian and I'm also thinking of joining the BNP. My reason is simple - my grandparents fought in the War to keep this country free, and I see everything we are being taken away. I believe every people group deserve a country to call their own (Wilson's Fourteen Points), and multiculturalism is idealistic and will never lead to peace and harmony but quite the opposite. Its origins are in Trotskyite Communism, and its purpose is to destroy white Protestant nations. It's not 'christian' at all. I believe that the BNP are the only hope for Britain, and I pray that God will open people's eyes to see it.

 

[artybloke]

I'm an evangelical Christian and I'm also thinking of joining the BNP.

The second statement cancels out the first. You cannot be a Christian and a Nazi. Your parents appear to have fought against Nazism in order for their son to grow up into one.

 

[sebastian]

multiculturalism is idealistic and will never lead to peace and harmony

I suppose white british imperialism did?

 

[Iosias]

The second statement cancels out the first. You cannot be a Christian and a Nazi.

I do not think that you should here call someone who supports the BNP a Nazi. I do not deny that some who do support it are neo-nazis however not all who do so are. The issue is why do people believe that their voice is not being listened to that they feel the need to vote for parties such as the BNP? The fact is that the political climate is such that the political classes no longer listen but pursue their own agendas which are invariably left liberal. Now I see that you are a Lib Dem so that will not worry you however I am a Tory (of the Old School) and it worries me.

 

[artybloke]

I do not deny that some who do support it are neo-nazis however not all who do so are.

Then they should borrow someone else's braincells, because they obviously have none of their own.

 

[uberd00b]

Bah, they're just a bunch of little men.

Provincial thinkers.

Hopefully such attitudes will go the way of the dodo.

 

[Pogue]

If the BNP controlled Britain I can say without a doubt that I would leave. There would be no hope left for Britain if the BNP came into power.

 

[sebastian]

if they came to power it would be time for a good old-fashioned revolution. we could have flags and everything.