blasphemous thoughts from the devil

[Ninja Cat]

My mind is full of blasphemous thoughts especially about Jesus not being the son of God.

I hate these thoughts i wish they would just go away
makes me want to cut myself badly but i have no blades in the house
just a veg knife and bread knife and they aren't even sharp for me to cut with

The devil is putting things in my head making me think this way
He made me think about drinking and not eating
he made me think about killing myself
Am being attacked

please someone help i dont know what to do

 

[Jb9]

Pray and read the scriptures regularly. Reading the bible is what scares satan and runs away from you. But also pray because God will definitely help you.

 

[emilie mayer]

You have to stop believing the lies of the enemy. You have to decide that enough is enough. Those thoughts are no match for God. Ask God for wisdom He freely gives wisdom to all who ask for it. What you are going through can be a stepping stone for strong faith. It was for me. I have been right were you are at. Then i realized i was focusing on myself and needed to focus on Jesus. The enemy will run all over you as long as you let Him.

 

[gracealone]

Hi Catseyes.. (btw do you love cats cause so do I. I used to raise Bengal cats for a living. Cats are beautiful creatures.)
Can you give a little clarity to me? What is it your heart desires - to be a follower of Jesus Christ as your Messiah King? Or does your heart desire to be a Muslim?
When you say that the thought that Jesus is not the Son of God is disturbing to you because you feel it's blasphemous that would seem to indicate that down deep you do really believe that He is or else that thought couldn't trouble you at all.
If this is OCD and your faith in Christ is the most important thing to you then it is certainly not unusual for your OCD to latch onto that and scare you with unwanted/intrusive thoughts. You say you hate these thoughts and wish they would go away... yes all of us who have experienced these kind of disturbing OCD themes have felt just the same as you. Even John Bunyan one of God's greatest servants who planted many seeds for the kingdom of Christ. I'd like to know a bit more about how this all started if you feel like sharing. You can PM me if you want. I struggled with thinking that these type of thoughts would doom me to hell and it was torture. I'm SO much better now and even if they pop in I can have the without freaking out and the joy of my salvation has returned to me. There is help and hope for this. You hang in there okay? Praying for you kiddo. Gracealone/Mitzi

My mind is full of blasphemous thoughts especially about Jesus not being the son of God.

I hate these thoughts i wish they would just go away
makes me want to cut myself badly but i have no blades in the house
just a veg knife and bread knife and they aren't even sharp for me to cut with

The devil is putting things in my head making me think this way
He made me think about drinking and not eating
he made me think about killing myself
Am being attacked

please someone help i dont know what to do

 

[Ninja Cat]

when my thoughts tell me that Jesus isn't the son of God i feel so bad that
i want to hurt myself so much for thinking these thoughts because i know its wrong for me to think that way
I don't feel i belong to Islam I found it too hard to pray 5 times a day and remembering the prayers
plus it didn't feel right to me
I want to follow Jesus and God i want to be a good christian
I want to love Jesus and God but am too scared to because of past stuff

 

[singpeace]

My mind is full of blasphemous thoughts especially about Jesus not being the son of God.

I hate these thoughts i wish they would just go away
makes me want to cut myself badly but i have no blades in the house
just a veg knife and bread knife and they aren't even sharp for me to cut with

The devil is putting things in my head making me think this way
He made me think about drinking and not eating
he made me think about killing myself
Am being attacked

please someone help i dont know what to do

Dear Cat,
I am so so sorry to hear that you are going through this. This is a terrible and tormenting thing to bear. I wish I could just snap my fingers and make it all go away. All I can do is tell you that I understand and that I am praying for you. In the meantime, I believe that God's Word is powerful and that if you can try to start reading or saying Scripture whenever these thoughts come... and I know that can seem to be constant... well, I just believe it can help to alleviate some of what you are going through. I certainly hope so. Know that you must be special to God for Satan to attack you in this way.

I've taken the text below from the website Living with Obsessive Compulsive Disorder family life.com

I'm sorry it is so long.

Father God, in the name of your Son, Jesus, I ask that You restore my sister's brain, soul, emotions, thoughts, and spirit to You and that she overcomes this dreadful thing which is plaguing her. Amen.


Living with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder


What common spiritual issues might lead to the experience of OCD?

Because OCD is really an anxiety problem, it’s not surprising that the Bible has much to say about the spiritual roots of OCD. Remember, in the midst of your struggle with OCD, your desires, thoughts, and actions are revealing what you are really worshipping—what is most important to you and what you treasure above all else. Jesus says, “For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also” (Matthew 6:21, ESV). So what are the things that OCD strugglers typically value or “treasure?”

The need for certainty is perhaps most common. You might feel unable to live with any bit of uncertainty. You want total assurance and certain knowledge: “I must be sure that the back door is locked.” And “I must be certain that I’ve done everything possible to decontaminate my countertop.” Compulsive behaviors such as checking and washing are attempts to erase doubt and boost a sense of certainty. But what happens? Reducing or controlling anxiety becomes an end unto itself and so begins a vicious cycle. (“How do I know I’ve cleaned the floor enough? How can I be sure? Better to mop it one more time than to experience this gnawing anxiety…”)

Of course, not all doubt is sin. It’s not sinful merely to ask, “Have I locked the door?” and to check if you have. But this becomes a sinful struggle when the desire to be sure becomes a demanding tyrant that generates anxiety and leads to compulsive, controlling behaviors that make it impossible for you to focus on what God is calling you to do: love Him and love others (Luke 10:27).

How does the Bible speak to your quest for certainty and your futile attempts to control your world through compulsive behaviors?

Remember: your reason for being certain about anything doesn’t come from within you; it comes from God as He reveals himself in Scripture (1 Corinthians 2:9-16).

God tells you enough so that you can live responsibly, but He doesn’t give you complete knowledge. He is the only one who knows everything (Job 38-41).

Truth, assurance, and certainty have their foundation in a promise-keeping God. And His promises come clothed in the form of a person, the Redeemer, Jesus Christ, in whom all of God’s promises are “yes!” (2 Corinthians 1:20).
The antidote to enslaving doubt is to gaze long and hard at the person of Jesus, on whom your faith rests. It’s not the strength of your faith that counts, but the One in whom you place your faith. Reliance upon Jesus allows you to proceed in faith, even when some doubts remain (Mark 9:14-32, especially 9:24).

God knows you completely and has detailed oversight of your lives (Psalm 139; Luke 12:22-34).

Another common spiritual theme in OCD is an overactive sense of responsibility. This heart dynamic is especially active if you struggle with aggressive or horrific impulses. When you have a thought that you might do something wrong, you feel the same weight of anxiety, responsibility, and guilt as if you actually did the deed. This often leads to compulsive behaviors that attempt to “pay for,” “neutralize,” or prevent the imagined sin. Not surprisingly, this theme is closely tied with perfectionism, the idea that your performance is critical for avoiding negative consequences, for yourself or others.

Again, the Bible has much to say about these concerns:

These intrusive thoughts are not temptations to sin in the true sense of the word. While the horrific thought of picking up a knife and stabbing your husband could only occur in a fallen world, such a thought doesn’t fit the description offered in James 1:13-15 of being tempted by our desires. Why feel guilty for something you didn’t do and in fact, don’t even want to do?
As a sinner, you are capable of things far worse than you have imagined. And yet, where sin (even potential sin!) increases, grace increases all the more (Romans 5:20). God is not surprised by your bizarre thoughts!

Jesus has kept the whole law and paid the penalty for your sins. There is nothing you can do to add to His work (Hebrews 10:11-18; Hebrews 7:26-27).

WHAT YOU NEED TO DO
There are a number of practical steps you can take to overcome obsessions and compulsions. Consider the following three pronged approach:

1. Build confidence and trust in God's care and provision in a daily, proactive way.

Think of this as training in “peace-time” that will give you a firm foundation for fighting your battle with obsessions and compulsions when they occur. How can you do this?

Recognize that OCD is a trust issue. Do you realize that your trust in the person, character, and work of God is what will break the obsessive-compulsive connection

Grow in that trust by meditating on Psalms that center on God’s care for you. Read through Psalms 23, 46, 62, 91, 104, 121, and 139. Meditate on at least one every day. But make sure that your use of these psalms doesn’t become another ritual! Remember, your goal is to deepen your relationship with God, not to create another rule.

Focus your thoughts on the finished, perfect work of Jesus Christ by reading through the book of Hebrews, particularly chapters 7-10.

Meditate on the love of God. Nothing (not even your worst case scenario) can separate you from God’s love (Romans 8:28-39).

Make a list of fifty things you are certain about. Then thank God for the many ways He is helping you to live without fear and doubt. Ask Him to extend the borders of your certainty and trust into your struggle with your obsessions and compulsions.

Recognize the ways in which your obsessions and compulsions keep you from loving those closest to you. Focus on these real sins, instead of the potential sins you have imagined in your mind. Then turn to Jesus Christ in repentance and faith (1 John 1:9).

Meditate on your status as a son or daughter of the living God, on whom His favor rests. (Galatians 4-4-7; 1 John 3:1) Remembering your identity as God’s favored child will bring freedom from the tyranny of over-responsibility and perfectionism.

2. Address obsessive thoughts when they enter your mind.

Learn to "devalue" your obsessive thought. Just because you have a repeated thought doesn't mean you have to take it seriously and counteract it. The reality is that you take your thoughts too seriously (1 Corinthians 4:3-4).

Recognize you are overestimating the threat of danger. If your door really is unlocked, how likely is it that harm will occur? How likely is it, really, that you will stab your child with a knife? This is part of the irrational way you are responding to your thoughts.

Go to the Lord in prayer when a thought comes. Instead of trying to suppress the thought—which rarely works—ask your Father in heaven to pour out His grace and mercy in your time of need. Ask Him to fill you with trust and confidence regarding His love, His oversight of your life, His wise and good plan for your life (the very truths on which you have been meditating, as described above).

Recognize that it’s not only possible, but normal, to live with a mixture of faith and doubt. Let the prayer of Mark 9:24 be your prayer as well: “I believe; help my unbelief.”

3. Take steps to weaken the temptation to engage in compulsive behavior.

In the midst of rising doubt and anxiety, let go of your quest for certainty and choose instead to trust God's oversight of your life. Freedom comes when you give up your right to control your world and rest in the One who holds all things--even you!--in His hands (Matthew 6:26-34).
Each time you refrain from acting out a compulsion when faced with an obsessive thought, you will weaken the obsession-compulsion cycle.

Research shows that if, instead of immediately trying to quiet the anxiety induced by your obsessive thought, you hold off on doing your typical compulsive behavior for 20 minutes or more, you will weaken the frequency and insistency of your obsessive thoughts.

In addition to delaying your compulsive ritual, you can also shorten it (wash your hands for 20 seconds rather than 1 minute), or do it differently (to demonstrate that no harm comes from altering your typical compulsion).
Focus on the fact that God gives you good works to do each day, and seek them out (Ephesians 2:10). Then your life will have an outward focus on God and others, instead of an inward focus on your struggle with OCD. As you choose to act in love toward others rather than act out your compulsion, you will find the power of the obsessive-compulsive cycle loosened.

When you fail to refrain from your compulsive behavior, rather than hang out in a place of guilt, self-loathing, and condemnation, go to the One who understands the intensity of your struggle and who richly pours out grace, mercy, and forgiveness in your time of need (Hebrews 4:15-16).

Two final but very important thoughts: First, tell others about your struggle so that they may join you in prayer. Many people struggle with OCD in silence and shame. If you’re one of those people, share your burden with several mature believers. Second, if the obsessions and compulsions are severe enough to interfere with daily life and relationships, seek out a seasoned counselor with experience in ministry to those with OCD who will walk this difficult road of change with you.

Although overcoming obsessions and compulsions is not an easy task, God promises that the gospel-centered truths of the Bible (the Word) along with His presence (the Spirit) are the resources that will allow you to face your doubts, fears, and anxious thoughts head on.

 

[rustom]

when my thoughts tell me that Jesus isn't the son of God i feel so bad that
i want to hurt myself so much for thinking these thoughts because i know its wrong for me to think that way
I don't feel i belong to Islam I found it too hard to pray 5 times a day and remembering the prayers
plus it didn't feel right to me
I want to follow Jesus and God i want to be a good christian
I want to love Jesus and God but am too scared to because of past stuff

Hi again,

I know how you feel, I struggle with blasphemous thoughts quite frequently, at first I was scared and thought "no Christian would ever think of that". Now I have a bit more confidence that they are not my own. In fact, the verse in your signature is key when fighting against such thoughts.

By the way when you say "Jesus and God" I strongly believe Jesus is God, the second person in the Holy Trinity. If you don't believe that He is God, then I would suggest looking up "is Jesus God?", it's quite a fundamental belief in Christianity.

I really plead with you to build your house on an unshakable foundation since it should be rebuked when a person is switching and worshipping another god, which is not the one true God.
I'm sorry that you had to go through such an experience, but have you already forgiven the person that did such a thing to you? One thing that keeps people in the past is the slavery of un-forgiveness. But if you have, then I can understand how traumatic it is.

It's times like this when we have to be strong and courageous, we can't pull through on our own, while other people might, there is still a huge gap that only God can fill. I'm praying that God may strengthen you and allow you experience new life that only He provides.

 

[Chaplain David]

when my thoughts tell me that Jesus isn't the son of God i feel so bad that
i want to hurt myself so much for thinking these thoughts because i know its wrong for me to think that way
I don't feel i belong to Islam I found it too hard to pray 5 times a day and remembering the prayers
plus it didn't feel right to me
I want to follow Jesus and God i want to be a good christian
I want to love Jesus and God but am too scared to because of past stuff

Hello,

Although your heart is crying out to the Lord your mind is saying the opposite. I talk to a lot of folks with OCD and one thing that I can say is that these thoughts are not your fault. They originate from your OCD. You are blaming yourself but you have not caused yourself to have OCD or done anything to get the thoughts. They just come as a result of the illness.

I recommend that you see a licensed counselor or therapist, same sex who is also a Christian. Given time and some work on your part, your thinking should improve. I know this is true because I've experienced it first hand.

Know that God loves you dearly and does not look down on you because you have OCD and intrusive thinking. Keep reaching out to Him and also to therapy which can turn your life around.

God bless you and I pray the very best for you and yours.

Faithfully,
CH Sacerdote

 

[Ninja Cat]

I believe that Jesus is God its kinda confuses me a little
because you have God then Jesus is born to Mary so God was reborn into Jesus
the holy spirit is also God the trinity

Am i making sense ?

please pray for me
Am a sinner
some times because of past things i believe that its my fault
Jesus will never leave me

 

[Jb9]

when my thoughts tell me that Jesus isn't the son of God i feel so bad that i want to hurt myself so much for thinking these thoughts because i know its wrong for me to think that way I don't feel i belong to Islam I found it too hard to pray 5 times a day and remembering the prayers plus it didn't feel right to me I want to follow Jesus and God i want to be a good christian I want to love Jesus and God but am too scared to because of past stuff

Bro you can't stop right here. You know why? Because you are real close to find Christ. And He really wants you to too. Ima pray for you man because salvation is at your doorstep. But it's up to you to open the door. Let Him in. Depart from your old ways and be renewed in Him. I have no rights to tell you to do this or that because I'm also a working christian but all I know right now is that you cant balk here. You need to advance because you are close to walking along the truth. Just let Him in. Because He is the only true God and He is the one who created you. Place your trust in Him because the results will be more than worth it.

 

[ThatAthlete]

All i can say is to pray, please pray. Pray that Jesus will stop all of this and have faith in him.

 

[gracealone]

Okay, that definitely gives me some clarity. When you said you found it too hard to be a Christian in your past post because you couldn't believe that Jesus was the Son of God I thought that this was a true belief, not a fear filled doubt. Your root fear is that because you have these thoughts that you don't want to think that God will or already has rejected you. Your belief that Jesus is the Son of God is so strong that these thoughts are terrifying to you. If you didn't truly believe they would have zero impact on you. It's like when my OCD was constantly sending me intrusive thoughts that were very similar to what an atheist might have, it seemed as though they were actually coming from me. Therefore, I became so terrified of becoming an Atheist or terrified that I already was one that I felt like it was too late for me. The anxiety was unbearable. But was is so incredibly ironic about this is that a true Atheist cannot fear eternal separation from God because they don't truly believe that God exists and therefore heaven and hell don't exist for them. Still, even sorting this out logically did nothing to quell or remove the fear or the constant barrage of thoughts. This is because you cannot out logic OCD. And the worst thing you can do is to try and out logic it or argue with it or ruminate or ask for reassurance etc. Doing those things gets the intrusive thoughts and ideas imbedded in the brain. It's like taking a big yellow highlighter and marking the thoughts in such a way that the brain sees them as the uppermost and most urgent thing that needs to be attended to. When we attend to OCD thoughts/themes we feed the OCD machine. When we ignore the thoughts and let them pop into our mind and just be there while refusing to attend to them in any way we can teach our brain to let go of them until eventually they don't create the firestorm of anxiety that they've caused to us in the past. This is called Exposure and Response Prevention therapy. We purposely allow the thoughts = "Exposure" and then we refuse to respond/attend to them= "Response Prevention". This takes practice, patience and above all else grit. This is because the Anxiety response pushes us or makes us feel compelled to attend to them. It all feels like a life or death emergency. I was never able to get past any of my OCD themes until I learned how OCD operates; why I got scary ideas and themes in the first place, why my brain over reacted to them and how my response to them was making me sicker. I suggest reading all you can on Pure O OCD and ERP. Also, I have no idea if you are on meds. but for many of us the OCD reaches such a debilitating level that we need meds. to help us manage the Anxiety which in turn helps us to do ERP. A good place to begin learning about your disorder is www.ocdonline.com Read all the articles on Pure O. If you have OCD you must treat it as such. Treating it like a spiritual problem rather than a true illness/affliction will only make you so much worse. All illnesses carry a spiritual component for the Christian in that God wants to teach us what it means to appropriate His grace and His strength in and through the affliction. They humble us and develop patience, perseverance and compassion for others who suffer. OCD is NOT the exception to this rule. It is a valid illness with real treatment options. You have to believe this in order to move forward toward treatment/management. Praying for you. Mitzi

when my thoughts tell me that Jesus isn't the son of God i feel so bad that
i want to hurt myself so much for thinking these thoughts because i know its wrong for me to think that way
I don't feel i belong to Islam I found it too hard to pray 5 times a day and remembering the prayers
plus it didn't feel right to me
I want to follow Jesus and God i want to be a good christian
I want to love Jesus and God but am too scared to because of past stuff