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Black. White.

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Wednesdays at 10, I don't know if they will continue the repeat schedule but this week they showed it twice on Wednesday and it will also air Saturday and Sunday..

I saw about half an hour of it - I personally don't think the characters in either family can "pass" with the less than great make up jobs... but just the interaction between the two families participating is interesting in itself without the attempt at seeing what happens outside...

I didn't really care for it much.. but I'll give it a shot this weekend with hubby on one of the later evening reruns since I didn't see the whole show.
 
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I was not impressed with this show...a few of the contestants do not seem believable in thier appearances or in thier actions/beliefs...I did however watch the entire show and will more than likely tune in again next week.
 
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I watched it and the only person whose make-up was believable enough to pass was Rose, the white daughter who was made up to look black. She looked the part... but I don't think saying her favorite artist was the Cranberries in the middle of a def poetry class was a very good move.

The white dad, Bruno - he gets on my last nerve. He's all the time throwing out the n-word like it's nothing, and he's not really in touch with how the black family feels or how they perceive the world around them.

The black mother's make-up made her look Latina to me. And the white mother's make-up just looked like make-up.

It is an interesting show, and I'll keep watching to see how both families grow in their perceptions.
 
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snoochface said:
The white dad, Bruno - he gets on my last nerve. He's all the time throwing out the n-word like it's nothing, and he's not really in touch with how the black family feels or how they perceive the world around them.
From the first time I saw previews for this show I could tell that the white dad was going to be an idiot...
 
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I caught the tail-end of it the other night. I wasn't really impressed, and was kinda shocked by the language they allowed to be on the show. I think that they did a better job at making the white family look black than they did the other way around.
 
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I watched the first episode on the internet.

The White family could pass as black people after the make up was put on.

The Black family COULD NOT pass. They looked just plain wierd to me.

But when you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Black people come with all sorts of shades and features because, especially in the U.S., they pretty much all a combination of races. Black, White, Native, Asian, so on and so forth.

The father and son from the Black family look mixed to me.
 
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They did look mixed, and the black mother looked Latina. I also thought the black father's accent was discernable - not a southern Georgia accent like he was trying to pass off.

This last episode was much better than the first, I thought. The reaction to the white daughter when she revealed herself to the def poetry class was amazing. Everyone was so understanding, except the one guy, and even he came around later on.

The white mother, on the other hand, was ridiculous. Her comments to the people in the poetry group were so inappropriate. I don't care if you're wite, black, or purple - if you don't know someone, you don't say things like that to them.

On the other side, I thought the black mother made too much of an issue over the white mother's use of the b-word. Yeah, it was a mistake, she was stupid to say it, but she apologized a zillion times and she just would not let it go. I think she completely misread her motives in saying it, too.

That ignorant hick talking to the black mother in the bar was just incredible. It's people like him that make a show like this necessary. I hope he sees himself on television and is ashamed.

Next week's previews look explosive.
 
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I like this show which is surprising because I don't watch many "reality" shows. I have to agree though that the make up jobs of the Black family aren't believable and Rose's is the most believable make up job.

I knew even before the series first aired that the white father was out of touch but this week's episode in the honky tonk showed he was even more oblivious than I thought.

One question keeps going through my mind about this show-how do they disguise the tv cameras? It's hard for me to imagine people acting the same if they saw tv cameras but I don't see how the camera people got the angles they did without being conspicous (sp?).
 
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Islander said:
One question keeps going through my mind about this show-how do they disguise the tv cameras? It's hard for me to imagine people acting the same if they saw tv cameras but I don't see how the camera people got the angles they did without being conspicous (sp?).

That's a very good question. I think there were a few scenes (like the bar) where it appeared the producers were using a hidden camera.

Did anyone catch the finale? I was only able to see two episodes because of some issues I have with my Cable/VCR situation and because one night I programmed it wrong and only caught 6 minutes of the show. :(

I thought Nick looked the most white of the black family when he was made up. And irony of ironies, I was watching a SNL from over 20 years ago (now 31 year old Drew Barrymore was host and they said she was 8) and to my surprise a funny segment where Eddie Murphy gets into white face and goes around New York City discovering there is indeed two Americas.

edit - I dug around my subscribed friends and found a previous post:

The Internet is the most wonderful invention ever...

A transcript of "White Like Eddie".
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White Like Eddie looks like the black family's son (why can I never remember his name?) when he's in his white makeup.

We have the finale on our TiVo but haven't watched it yet. I think I'm putting it off because I'm so sick of Bruno. Did anyone catch his "rap" video on the previous show? How condescending and insulting, and I'm not even black! I thought Renee would rip him a new one at that, but she was pretty laid back by it. It just made me sad.

Rose continues to amaze me. She's the only one who I think really gets it. But then, I also think the black son (grr what IS his name??) gets it from the other perspective. He doesn't have the history of growing up with the prejudice his parents experienced from the 50's and 60's, and so he doesn't see as much of it as they do.

I'll check back when we've watched the last episode.
 
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snoochface said:
White Like Eddie looks like the black family's son (why can I never remember his name?) when he's in his white makeup.

We have the finale on our TiVo but haven't watched it yet. I think I'm putting it off because I'm so sick of Bruno.

Bruno's heart is in the right place, but he's a bit clueless. I think he has a point about taking every time you don't get good service or whatever as racism to be valid. If you're looking to be offended you will. Most true affronts to ones dignity occur when, after the fact, you think about it and say, "that person treated me wrongly."

I think Rose and Nick are more indicative or race relations - and reality now more so than any of the parents. Rose, raised in a post-Rock and roll, post-Disco, post-Hip Hop, post-Good Times and the Jeffersons society could "come out" and be accepted by people she'd ingratiated herself with. Nick might still have problems like being pulled over for DWB, but he isn't going to get murdered like Emitt Till for whistling at a white woman or told to eat at a different lunch counter.

A few years ago I attended a convention and shared a room (platonically) with a woman who is half-black, half-Latina - and she paid our bill! I'm sorry for those of you who have lived though Jim Crow, but it's unthinkable to me that I couldn't share a drinking fountain with a black man or a hotel room with a Hispanic black woman 40 years ago in many states.

Race relations might not be perfect in 2006, but they are light years beyond what they were in 1963.
 
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I agree with a lot of USIncognito's post (heh, what else is new?). I finally watched the final episode this weekend and I was struck by how much Rose and Nick really seem to get it, and are in tune with what I personally perceive race issues to be today.

Bruno... to the very end, he said he hadn't learned anything, he came in with his views and was leaving with those same views. If Brian and Renee saw racism where it didn't exist, Bruno refused to see it even where it was. They all had blinders on and only saw what they already believed they would see.

And Renee... if she went on about Carmen and the b-word one more time, I was gonna reach in through my TV and slap her silly. Let it go already!

TV Guide made an interesting comment. It's unlikely they will do a second season, but if they do it would be better if they put the families somewhere like Mobile, Alabama, where racial tensions are more likely to be evident, rather than in southern California.
 
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