Birth Control Pills

[Trashionista]

Sadly not all Catholics are faithful to the teachings of the church. Pray a rosary for faithfulness to be restored.

Oh please.

Women have to take control of their bodies. Not everyone should be parents to multiple kids - if a woman doesn't want children, but wants to have sex, women [and men for that matter] have to take their reproductive systems into their own hands. Regardless of whether their partner is using contraceptives or not. One is responsible for their own body - and if a woman is uninterested in having kids [or more children], she has a duty to protect her body. As would any man. The Pill is one of the best, most reliable methods. If you choose to use the NFP - fine. I would just require more assurance - which is why I'm for contraceptives.

Regardless of my religious beliefs, I am for the birth control if someone feels the need to use it.

Likewise, anyone with an incredibly haywire menstrual schedule would realize that the NFP is difficult to chart.

It takes much effort - the Pill is a daily dosage that requires minimal effort providing one can tell time & remember to take it. Obviously, there are people who are careless when on the Pill, but there are just as many people who use it sucsessfully without complications.

There are things that aren't so great about the Pill. Getting on a good formulation is extremely important. But one should not forget its other properties - stabilizing the menstrual cycle, clearing up acne, etc.

 

[chroNick]

Nope, thats against the Catholic teachings quirk.

 

[never_stop]

Oh please.

Women have to take control of their bodies. Not everyone should be parents to multiple kids - if a woman doesn't want children, but wants to have sex, women [and men for that matter] have to take their reproductive systems into their own hands. Regardless of whether their partner is using contraceptives or not. One is responsible for their own body - and if a woman is uninterested in having kids [or more children], she has a duty to protect her body. As would any man. The Pill is one of the best, most reliable methods. If you choose to use the NFP - fine. I would just require more assurance - which is why I'm for contraceptives.

Regardless of my religious beliefs, I am for the birth control if someone feels the need to use it.

Likewise, anyone with an incredibly haywire menstrual schedule would realize that the NFP is difficult to chart.

It takes much effort - the Pill is a daily dosage that requires minimal effort providing one can tell time & remember to take it. Obviously, there are people who are careless when on the Pill, but there are just as many people who use it sucsessfully without complications.

There are things that aren't so great about the Pill. Getting on a good formulation is extremely important. But one should not forget its other properties - stabilizing the menstrual cycle, clearing up acne, etc.

No, that is wrong, our body is not our own. We belong to Christ when we are Christians. Children are blessings from God. Who are we to decide to stop God's will, His blessings? There is God's righteousness and our righteousness, which is as filthy rags.
The birth control pill takes a healthy woman's body and causes it to be broken, to not function properly. It doesn't matter "if a woman doesn't want children, but wants to have sex" but what God wants that matters.

 

[Trashionista]

No, that is wrong, our body is not our own. We belong to Christ when we are Christians. Children are blessings from God. Who are we to decide to stop God's will, His blessings? There is God's righteousness and our righteousness, which is as filthy rags.
The birth control pill takes a healthy woman's body and causes it to be broken, to not function properly. It doesn't matter "if a woman doesn't want children, but wants to have sex" but what God wants that matters.

Not everyone should be parents, for one thing. Not everyone wants any or more children.

If the Pill was as damaging as you claim it to be, why is it still being prescribed? Some doctors are quacks, and maybe some women take the Pill without researching it first. So, there are women on dosages they maybe shouldn't be, and those who smoke when on the Pill, as well as those who's bodies just physically can't handle the Pill. Yes, the Pill is not perfect, and it takes much thought before [and while] on it, but for those who choose to take the Pill, the risks are outweighed by the benefits. Aspirin, tylenol, alcohol, food, etc. can be damaging if misused improperly. People choose to use these substances because the benefits outweigh the risks.

Nope, thats against the Catholic teachings quirk.

I'm aware. Obviously, that's a church view that I personally disagree with.

 

[chroNick]

well its catholic teachings.

 

[never_stop]

Not everyone should be parents, for one thing. Not everyone wants any or more children.

Then anyone should pray to God instead of imposing their will on the situation.

If the Pill was as damaging as you claim it to be, why is it still being prescribed? Some doctors are quacks, and maybe some women take the Pill without researching it first. So, there are women on dosages they maybe shouldn't be, and those who smoke when on the Pill, as well as those who's bodies just physically can't handle the Pill. Yes, the Pill is not perfect, and it takes much thought before [and while] on it, but for those who choose to take the Pill, the risks are outweighed by the benefits. Aspirin, tylenol, alcohol, food, etc. can be damaging if misused improperly. People choose to use these substances because the benefits outweigh the risks.

All drugs have risks and side effects, but if your ill and you need the drug to be better, you may accept the side effects. The pill doesn't fix a medical condition, it alters a healthy functioning reproductive system and alters it so it cannot function.

 

[Trashionista]

Then anyone should pray to God instead of imposing their will on the situation.

Not everyone believes in God.

All drugs have risks and side effects, but if your ill and you need the drug to be better, you may accept the side effects. The pill doesn't fix a medical condition, it alters a healthy functioning reproductive system and alters it so it cannot function.

It alters it while one is actually on the Pill. Its a choice by the user.

You're also forgetting the Pill is prescribed by OB/GYN's if a female hasn't menstruated, or if her menstrual cycle is out of whack. As well as if someone is suffering from extreme acne. Those are health symptoms as well - making the Pill as beneficial as an Aspirin is for a headache.

Anyone who's on the Pill should be aware of the risks before they take it - as I imagine anyone who goes to their OB/GYN or Planned Parenthood should be. Heck, if you've seen a television commercial, you'd be aware that the Pill comes with risks.

So, those who have complications give the anti-Pill brigade some fuel. However, it doesn't take away the fact that the majority of women, with involved OB/GYNs, who use it correctly can prevent pregnancy without damaging their bodies.

Let's not forget - having kids presents risks as well. With pregnancy & child-rearing requiring much more responsibility than remembering to take the Pill.

 

[Trashionista]

well its catholic teachings.

And I responded to this point.

 

[Ave Maria]

No, that is wrong, our body is not our own. We belong to Christ when we are Christians. Children are blessings from God. Who are we to decide to stop God's will, His blessings? There is God's righteousness and our righteousness, which is as filthy rags.
The birth control pill takes a healthy woman's body and causes it to be broken, to not function properly. It doesn't matter "if a woman doesn't want children, but wants to have sex" but what God wants that matters.

If God's will is for us to have cancer, who are we to stop God's will? Do you see the error of your logic there? I hope you do.

 

[Calliso]

If God's will is for us to have cancer, who are we to stop God's will? Do you see the error of your logic there? I hope you do.

People have a habit of only using the stopping God's will when it comes to having babies for some reason. But things like cancer and other things..nope usually people will see no problem in someone getting treatment for cancer..odd huh?

 

[Calliso]

No, that is wrong, our body is not our own. We belong to Christ when we are Christians. Children are blessings from God. Who are we to decide to stop God's will, His blessings? There is God's righteousness and our righteousness, which is as filthy rags.
The birth control pill takes a healthy woman's body and causes it to be broken, to not function properly. It doesn't matter "if a woman doesn't want children, but wants to have sex" but what God wants that matters.

People who donlt want kids shouldn't be parents period. People who can;t afford more children should try their hardest to avoid having kids. However in a marriage years of abstinance can do damage. Also the birth control pill doesn;t damage or ruin a womans body that notion is just silly. In fact when I was in birth control I never felt better usually especially at that time of the month.

 

[Ave Maria]

People have a habit of only using the stopping God's will when it comes to having babies for some reason. But things like cancer and other things..nope usually people will see no problem in someone getting treatment for cancer..odd huh?

I don't really understand the first part of your post. Could you please rephrase it?

 

[Calliso]

I don't really understand the first part of your post. Could you please rephrase it?

What I mean is that people will often pull the your altering your body and opposing God;s will! line when it comes to women avoiding getting pregnant by taking the pill. But rarely will you see someone say you got chemo! Your damaging your body and going against God;s will! That cancer was God's will! Now there are some extreme people though that do believe that you should just rely on God to heal you..and if he doesn;t well it was just your time to die. I don.t think I have seen anyone like that on this forum though. But is that clearer? sorry I suck at explaining things

 

[never_stop]

If God's will is for us to have cancer, who are we to stop God's will? Do you see the error of your logic there? I hope you do.

People have a habit of only using the stopping God's will when it comes to having babies for some reason. But things like cancer and other things..nope usually people will see no problem in someone getting treatment for cancer..odd huh?

People also have a habit of camparing God's blessings to the curse in cancer as if the new life of a baby is some evil parasite. That is a morbid way to view our offspring.

 

[never_stop]

What I mean is that people will often pull the your altering your body and opposing God;s will! line when it comes to women avoiding getting pregnant by taking the pill. But rarely will you see someone say you got chemo! Your damaging your body and going against God;s will! That cancer was God's will! Now there are some extreme people though that do believe that you should just rely on God to heal you..and if he doesn;t well it was just your time to die. I don.t think I have seen anyone like that on this forum though. But is that clearer? sorry I suck at explaining things

Yeah, I mean, it almost sounds like you think cancer is God's will, or that pregnancy is a disease. I'm sure that's not what you believe, but it can be taken kind of like that.

 

[Trashionista]

People also have a habit of camparing God's blessings to the curse in cancer as if the new life of a baby is some evil parasite. That is a morbid way to view our offspring.

Babies/fetus' themselves may not be evil parisites.

But an unplanned pregnancy can be a burden on a marriage or on a woman's life.

 

[jad123]

Babies/fetus' themselves may not be evil parisites.

But an unplanned pregnancy can be a burden on a marriage or on a woman's life.

My sister in-law visiting is a burden on my marriage so can I go and kill her too? Please!!!

 

[Trashionista]

My sister in-law visiting is a burden on my marriage so can I go and kill her too? Please!!!

A sister-in-law visiting can be temporary. You have to agree with it, I imagine. At least passively.

A child is a responsibility that can last a life-time, 18 years at least. That's far different than having a relative be an inconveinience for a week.

EDIT: Sorry, didn't notice wink-ing emoticon. Lack of sleep.

 

[jad123]

A sister-in-law visiting can be temporary. You have to agree with it, I imagine. At least passively.

A child is a responsibility that can last a life-time, 18 years at least. That's far different than having a relative be an inconveinience for a week.

EDIT: Sorry, didn't notice wink-ing emoticon. Lack of sleep.

Yes I was kidding about the sister-in-law especially since my wife might read this.

But a child being a burden is no reason for an abortion. But then again I am one who believes there never is a reason.

 

[Ave Maria]

What I mean is that people will often pull the your altering your body and opposing God;s will! line when it comes to women avoiding getting pregnant by taking the pill. But rarely will you see someone say you got chemo! Your damaging your body and going against God;s will! That cancer was God's will! Now there are some extreme people though that do believe that you should just rely on God to heal you..and if he doesn;t well it was just your time to die. I don.t think I have seen anyone like that on this forum though. But is that clearer? sorry I suck at explaining things

Yes, I understand now. And don't worry, you don't suck at explaining things. I probably just suck at understanding things.

That said, I plan to get on the Depo Provera birth control shot soon. That will be David and I's method of contraception. We are not ready to have a child yet though we do want to have a child in the future.