Birds

[Oblivious]

What is a Quaker Parakeet? Not to sound silly but I just have never heard of that. God is so awesome all the different breeds He creates just blows me away!

Here's a great website with some information for you.

http://b.webring.com/hub?ring=quakersites

 

[ceedaisy]

Aww, how sweet. They are about the same size as my finches.

 

[soblessed53]

Really? Quarkers are larger and heavier than cockatiels,I've never seen such large domestic finches. What kind are they ceedaisy?

Hey have any of you see the movie "The Wild Parrots Of Telegraph Hill" It is a true story. I am on the waiting list at my library to get it,but I did pick up the book form today.

 

[awashinlove]

but you were off on what you said and why you said it and even admitted in the edit that it sounded brisk. ... It was very insulting as an animal lover to have someone assume the worst or that I did something intentionally to harm our bird.

I said it *could,* and I'm very, very sorry you took my intentions and made them something they weren't. The reasons behind captive parrots' killing one another is a serious topic destroying many every day, and I'm not going to water it down. If someone's objective is venom toward you, would they specifically request that you not read anything even remotely unkind into their words? I would have left the post as it was should I have been looking to accuse, but, after re-reading and noticing it could be - and evidently was - taken defensively, I wanted only to elucidate my objective.

Can we try it again without any venom this time?

While this comment greatly distresses me, I'll give it a more elaborate shot so we can all be on the same page. Feel free to ignore, or PM off topic responses.

With psittacines, baps are killed in the wild for one of two reasons: the young is severely ill or deformed; or there's a lack in food, so the most feeble offspring is destroyed. In captivity, however, there are also environmental issues, nutritional issues, maturity issues, as well as psychological issues going against a bap's survival, and most of these come down to premature breeding. I didn't actually assume any of these situations for you in light of the lost baby's six-month duration. The only potentiality I suggested for your situation was that if the baby wasn't mutilated, the new bap, and I can only guess it wasn't hatched yet, may have forced the parents to accidentally starve the older sibling (this is an option that can be weighed even if handfeeding was done). But that was only something quick to consider because avian parents will *not* protectoraly kill a functioning, healthy flock member, let alone a baby, and to believe otherwise can be disheartening - I wanted you to know there were alternative notions to the (intential or unintential) human gaffe I'd mentioned. I obviously don't know any more about the conditions and factors and never flattered myself otherwise, so if something appears to be off target for your circumstance, all you need do is say so, or even just know so. But the lone point was, is, that it is heard of. And, sadly, psittacine killing is greatly enhanced as the result of these animals being thrown into human containment. I apologize for any misunderstanding.

I have a Quaker Parakeet that just turned 10 years old.

Gah! I'm breaking a commandment, here. If I could add just one more bird to my flock it would be either the Quaker Parakeet or the Senegal. Is yours a talker?

Hey have any of you see the movie "The Wild Parrots Of Telegraph Hill"

Get tissues!, and you'll look at the keeping of birds differently. The Conures are breathtaking, as well as Bittnet's story.

Any word on your Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] Parrotlet?

Blessings,
awashinlove

 

[soblessed53]

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Originally Posted by: soblessed53

Hey have any of you see the movie "The Wild Parrots Of Telegraph Hill"

Get tissues!, and you'll look at the keeping of birds differently. The Conures are breathtaking, as well as Bittnet's story.

Any word on your Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] Parrotlet?

Blessings,
awashinlove


Uh-oh a "tear-jerker" huh? Normally if I know it is a tear-jerker ahead of time,I avoid those,LOL! But I got the book to read so I'm going to get it either way,LOL!

I changed my mind on the parrotlet,first because it seems there are no breeders nearby,secondly,because I got frightened off by finding some bird forums that had many accounts of blood-drawing bites[the variety of parrotlet biter, was not mentioned and I suspect it was the commonly available Pacific] but I am not willing to put myself, or especially not my 4 year old granddaughter at risk of that! Another thing,I am totally sickened by the idea of hand-raising,which it seems every breeder of parrots engages in anymore. How insanely cruel,to rip babies away from parents to force-feed them,really,really makes me furious and sickens me that any human can be so "money-oriented" to do something so cruel and unnatural,and STUPID! There is no way I believe you could not get the same friendliness by just socializing the babies more in the nest. And if you cannot,then I do not think such a vicious species has any business at all in the pet trade!About as sensible as trying to make a pet out of a snapping turtle!
BTW I had a parakeet as a child until it died at 9 years old and it was NEVER wing clipped,and as soon as this baby's grows out it will never be wing-clipped again either. How unnatural is that?! My parakeet would come to my whistle, and it got out the kitchen door into an attached garage once,but I whistled and she came right to me. If these bird people tell you a parrot will be vicious if it is not clipped,then that tells me it is not suitable to be a pet if you have to take away the number one thing that makes it a bird!

 

[awashinlove]

Uh-oh a "tear-jerker" huh? Normally if I know it is a tear-jerker ahead of time,I avoid those,LOL! But I got the book to read so I'm going to get it either way,LOL!

The story is worth the tears! What astounds me is that these birds choose the human companionship, as is true in their native countries. What a shame western civilization has felt the need to be so cruel and cage them.

I changed my mind on the parrotlet,first because it seems there are no breeders nearby,secondly,because I got frightened off by finding some bird forums that had many accounts of blood-drawing bites[the variety of parrotlet biter, was not mentioned and I suspect it was the commonly available Pacific] but I am not willing to put myself, or especially not my 4 year old granddaughter at risk of that! Another thing,I am totally sickened by the idea of hand-raising,which it seems every breeder of parrots engages in anymore. How insanely cruel,to rip babies away from parents to force-feed them,really,really makes me furious and sickens me that any human can be so "money-oriented" to do something so cruel and unnatural,and STUPID! There is no way I believe you could not get the same friendliness by just socializing the babies more in the nest. And if you cannot,then I do not think such a vicious species has any business at all in the pet trade!About as sensible as trying to make a pet out of a snapping turtle!

BTW I had a parakeet as a child until it died at 9 years old and it was NEVER wing clipped,and as soon as this baby's grows out it will never be wing-clipped again either. How unnatural is that?! My parakeet would come to my whistle, and it got out the kitchen door into an attached garage once,but I whistled and she came right to me. If these bird people tell you a parrot will be vicious if it is not clipped,then that tells me it is not suitable to be a pet if you have to take away the number one thing that makes it a bird!

Amen! It's really great to hear someone put so much value on the nature of parrots.

 

[woman.at.the.well]

I said it *could,* and I'm very, very sorry you took my intentions and made them something they weren't. The reasons behind captive parrots' killing one another is a serious topic destroying many every day, and I'm not going to water it down. If someone's objective is venom toward you, would they specifically request that you not read anything even remotely unkind into their words? I would have left the post as it was should I have been looking to accuse, but, after re-reading and noticing it could be - and evidently was - taken defensively, I wanted only to elucidate my objective.
While this comment greatly distresses me, I'll give it a more elaborate shot so we can all be on the same page. Feel free to ignore, or PM off topic responses.

With psittacines, baps are killed in the wild for one of two reasons: the young is severely ill or deformed; or there's a lack in food, so the most feeble offspring is destroyed. In captivity, however, there are also environmental issues, nutritional issues, maturity issues, as well as psychological issues going against a bap's survival, and most of these come down to premature breeding. I didn't actually assume any of these situations for you in light of the lost baby's six-month duration. The only potentiality I suggested for your situation was that if the baby wasn't mutilated, the new bap, and I can only guess it wasn't hatched yet, may have forced the parents to accidentally starve the older sibling (this is an option that can be weighed even if handfeeding was done). But that was only something quick to consider because avian parents will *not* protectoraly kill a functioning, healthy flock member, let alone a baby, and to believe otherwise can be disheartening - I wanted you to know there were alternative notions to the (intential or unintential) human gaffe I'd mentioned. I obviously don't know any more about the conditions and factors and never flattered myself otherwise, so if something appears to be off target for your circumstance, all you need do is say so, or even just know so. But the lone point was, is, that it is heard of. And, sadly, psittacine killing is greatly enhanced as the result of these animals being thrown into human containment. I apologize for any misunderstanding.


Gah! I'm breaking a commandment, here. If I could add just one more bird to my flock it would be either the Quaker Parakeet or the Senegal. Is yours a talker?

Get tissues!, and you'll look at the keeping of birds differently. The Conures are breathtaking, as well as Bittnet's story.

Any word on your Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] Parrotlet?

Blessings,
awashinlove

Please accept my sincere apologies for anything you took wrongly. I really did not intend to get things off with you in a wrong way but as I said before . . .YOU said what you posted in reply to my question was brisk. That was putting it lightly dear. It really was. I think ANYone who may have read that would agree.

Can we PLEASE start over??? As I stated in my last post several days ago -- I think we can both agree that we absolutely adore animals. I really appreciate your helpful information concerning birds of all kind.

I have honestly been struggling greatly with the whole captivity issue. It seems like a cruel lot for these wonderful birds (all of them) that they did not ask for. What is the solution?

When you think about all the poor birds and animals of all kinds in captivity in pet stores, etc. . . it just boggles my mind.

Peace to you awashinlove. I really do hope we can get past this and do something good for birds like get the word out or something constructive besides attack one another.

 

[woman.at.the.well]

Here's a great website with some information for you.

http://b.webring.com/hub?ring=quakersites

I'll take a look at it now!

 

[awashinlove]

Peace to you awashinlove. I really do hope we can get past this and do something good for birds like get the word out or something constructive besides attack one another.

I don't believe either one of us was attacking, and as you very graciously and kindly said, all is forgiven and forgotten. But, we can all do something good for captive birds, speaking of that. Avianwelfare.org is an excellent place to start, actually, and I was just prepared to post on them...

 

[Oblivious]

Gah! I'm breaking a commandment, here. If I could add just one more bird to my flock it would be either the Quaker Parakeet or the Senegal. Is yours a talker?

Yes, he has about a 20 word vocabulary. He also laughs, burps, purrs, and whistles.

 

[awashinlove]

Ah! I just

those birds!

 

[woman.at.the.well]

I don't believe either one of us was attacking, and as you very graciously and kindly said, all is forgiven and forgotten. But, we can all do something good for captive birds, speaking of that. Avianwelfare.org is an excellent place to start, actually, and I was just prepared to post on them...

I'm glad to have met you and really appreciate everything you do for our feathered friends. Now . . .I'm off to avianwelfare.org :0) Thank you for sharing the site!

 

[woman.at.the.well]

Ah! I just

those birds!

that's just too cute!

Yes, he has about a 20 word vocabulary. He also laughs, burps, purrs, and whistles.

Wow! 20 words! That is really neat.

My friend Tony is trying to get our birds to say, "here kitty kitty." Apparently he had a friend with a parakeet that said this and it always got a good laugh out of everyone. Thankfully, we don't have cats so . . .it shouldn't be a problem :0) if he succeeds in getting them to say it.

That is just too funny. Your bird burps and purrs, that is great!

 

[awashinlove]

That is just too funny. Your bird burps and purrs, that is great!

They are amazing companions. I hate to say so much good about them because then the wrong folks adopt them, but Quakers really are lovely parrots. Ahh, I need a fainting emoticon or at least a happier sighing icon...