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I live in Indonesia so we have a lot of birds that you wouldnt usually get in other countries. When we go to the village people often come to sell us birds and we buy them because if we dont they will be eaten. We free a lot of the birds we buy.
Eclectus parrots are large birds that make great pets. The girls are red and blue and the boys are green.
 
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birds :D Yeah, we're animal freaks at our house.

We have 2 cockateils and 2 lovebirds and a brand new baby lovebird at our house as of Monday. They are peached face lovebirds. The Mom and Dad's names are Butch and Sundance. Haven't named the baby yet. The parents were named before we knew one was male and one was female.

As a sad side note: We found out the hard way -- that the parents will kill any other bird that is around whether it is their own child or not. One of the babies they had earlier this year (May) was killed for protective reasons (I think?). I found the 1st baby bird they had (the one from May) dead a week ago today. When I saw they new bird in the nesting box (3 days later) it dawned on me that we should have taken the 6 mo. old bird out.

I was really upset with myself. If only we had known, we could have saved the poor thing. But now we know for the next round of hatchling(s). Has anyone ever heard of this? I had no idea they (the parents) would kill their own.
 
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Hey, curlyblue, I've got a house full, too! A Congo Grey, a B&G Macaw, two 'Toos, a Pionus, Princess Parakeets, a Budgie, and Cockatiels. But be careful calling them pets. These are WILD animals, and always will be. They will without fail return to their nature. Electus themselves become quite the handfuls years in, so I'm glad to hear you've got two.

I've gotta ask, what group is the red cheek is from? I'm pulling apart my memory, here - I know of yellow cheeks and blue cheeks, red ears and red faces, etc., etc., but I can't place the red cheek! ^_^ Is this also from either the Keet, Lovebird, Conure, or Amazon group as these others are?

woman.at.the.well said:
But now we know for the next round of hatchling(s). Has anyone ever heard of this? I had no idea they (the parents) would kill their own.

Yes, it's the result of screwing around with wild animals in captivity, and/or breeding before the bird reaches late teens. Happens all of the time, especially if you're forcing the equivalent of a 9-10 year old human child to be a parent, or have a lousy diet. Was your baby mutilated? Often they're just starved because naturally parent birds don't wean their young until they're several years old, but were forced to when another bap came into the picture. If you really want more lovebirds, I've got plenty in foster care, and I know of at least a hundred more in my county alone, and there are tens of thousands more across the country in shelters, rescues, and foster care. At least six very sweet birds are scheduled for euthanasia at my local shelter, and with Easter birds piling in, no one can afford the medical tests to bring any more to safety. Perhaps consider saving a life instead of risking more precious and unique lives.:wave:

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Edit: Eek, I realize the above could sound a little brisk, :sorry: but I don't mean it that way at all. Please, please don't read it with any negative inflection.:holy:
 
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I dont know exactly what group the red cheeked is in but they are related to fig parrots. I dont think you can get them as pets normally, they apparently dont do well in captivity but someone gave this one to me when we were in a village when it was a baby and it is too used to living in captivity to be released now. It seems quite happy.
 
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I dont know exactly what group the red cheeked is in but they are related to fig parrots. I dont think you can get them as pets normally, they apparently dont do well in captivity but someone gave this one to me when we were in a village when it was a baby and it is too used to living in captivity to be released now. It seems quite happy.

Oh, wow! Now that must be a bird to treasure! Yeah, parrots don't rehab well, if at all. Even if they do learn to find the right foods independently, they lose sensitivity to predators and don't survive long, anyway. :sigh:

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awashinlove said:
Hey, curlyblue, I've got a house full, too! A Congo Grey, a B&G Macaw, two 'Toos, a Pionus, Princess Parakeets, a Budgie, and Cockatiels. But be careful calling them pets. These are WILD animals, and always will be. They will without fail return to their nature. Electus themselves become quite the handfuls years in, so I'm glad to hear you've got two.

I've gotta ask, what group is the red cheek is from? I'm pulling apart my memory, here - I know of yellow cheeks and blue cheeks, red ears and red faces, etc., etc., but I can't place the red cheek! ^_^ Is this also from either the Keet, Lovebird, Conure, or Amazon group as these others are?



Yes, it's the result of screwing around with wild animals in captivity, and/or breeding before the bird reaches late teens. Happens all of the time, especially if you're forcing the equivalent of a 9-10 year old human child to be a parent, or have a lousy diet. Was your baby mutilated? Often they're just starved because naturally parent birds don't wean their young until they're several years old, but were forced to when another bap came into the picture. If you really want more lovebirds, I've got plenty in foster care, and I know of at least a hundred more in my county alone, and there are tens of thousands more across the country in shelters, rescues, and foster care. At least six very sweet birds are scheduled for euthanasia at my local shelter, and with Easter birds piling in, no one can afford the medical tests to bring any more to safety. Perhaps consider saving a life instead of risking more precious and unique lives.:wave:

Blessings,
awashinlove
Edit: Eek, I realize the above could sound a little brisk, :sorry: but I don't mean it that way at all. Please, please don't read it with any negative inflection.:holy:

when you realize something sounds "negative" you might want to change/edit the way it sound. This DOES in fact sound very brisk. You might want to find out more details before you say things like you did above. The next time you want to reprimand someone, you might consider doing it privately by PM'ing them instead of in such a public way. As long as you learned from this, no hard feelings! Peace.
 
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woman.at.the.well said:
when you realize something sounds "negative" you might want to change/edit the way it sound. This DOES in fact sound very brisk. You might want to find out more details before you say things like you did above. The next time you want to reprimand someone, you might consider doing it privately by PM'ing them instead of in such a public way. As long as you learned from this, no hard feelings! Peace.

There was absolutely no reprimand whatsoever, you asked a question and I answered it. Perhaps with my edit I opened the door for you to feel like you did, because I don't even believe the post itself was negative. I asked you to read it with no negative inflection is because I didn't want you to feel like you were being reproved for breeding. Most people don't know how sensitive birds are in captivity or the available options to adopting expensive breeder birds and breeding themselves, and I was 100% coming at your question from that angle. Should this exchange have occurred face-to-face I think it would have been clear that no reprimand was inteded, but rather I was attempting to be informative about captive birds and perhaps help in preventing future fatalities by any number of means. My edit was to ensure you realized my intent by requesting that you not read anything else into it as sometimes it's hard to decipher intent from written word.

If I ever want to reprimand someone I will do it in PM, though I don't believe it will ever be my place to do so. Otherwise, I prefer not to take things to PM because we all can learn from everything.

Anyway, let's get back on topic...:D

God bless you,
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awashinlove said:
There was absolutely no reprimand whatsoever, you asked a question and I answered it. Perhaps with my edit I opened the door for you to feel like you did, because I don't even believe the post itself was negative. I asked you to read it with no negative inflection is because I didn't want you to feel like you were being reproved for breeding. Most people don't know how sensitive birds are in captivity or the available options to adopting expensive breeder birds and breeding themselves, and I was 100% coming at your question from that angle. Should this exchange have occurred face-to-face I think it would have been clear that no reprimand was inteded, but rather I was attempting to be informative about captive birds and perhaps help in preventing future fatalities by any number of means. My edit was to ensure you realized my intent by requesting that you not read anything else into it as sometimes it's hard to decipher intent from written word.

If I ever want to reprimand someone I will do it in PM, though I don't believe it will ever be my place to do so. Otherwise, I prefer not to take things to PM because we all can learn from everything.

Anyway, let's get back on topic...:D


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but you were off on what you said and why you said it and even admitted in the edit that it sounded brisk. No hard feelings. I think the fact is we both love birds and probably animals (in general) of all kinds and that is what is important. It was very insulting as an animal lover to have someone assume the worst or that I did something intentionally to harm our bird. That's just ridiculous. Next time, PLEASE read a post/question in it's entirety, and ask for more info before making wrong assumptions if in doubt.

Otherwise, to get back on the thread topic (which is birds, correct?) . . . Let me repeat the question: "Has anyone ever heard of this? " -that is, parents killing their own. Can we try it again without any venom this time? Thank you, I much appreciate it.
 
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awashinlove said:
There was absolutely no reprimand whatsoever, you asked a question and I answered it. Perhaps with my edit I opened the door for you to feel like you did, because I don't even believe the post itself was negative. I asked you to read it with no negative inflection is because I didn't want you to feel like you were being reproved for breeding. Most people don't know how sensitive birds are in captivity or the available options to adopting expensive breeder birds and breeding themselves, and I was 100% coming at your question from that angle. Should this exchange have occurred face-to-face I think it would have been clear that no reprimand was inteded, but rather I was attempting to be informative about captive birds and perhaps help in preventing future fatalities by any number of means. My edit was to ensure you realized my intent by requesting that you not read anything else into it as sometimes it's hard to decipher intent from written word.

If I ever want to reprimand someone I will do it in PM, though I don't believe it will ever be my place to do so. Otherwise, I prefer not to take things to PM because we all can learn from everything.

Anyway, let's get back on topic...:D


God bless you,
awashinlove

but you were off on what you said and why you said it and even admitted in the edit that it sounded brisk. No hard feelings. I think the fact is we both love birds and probably animals (in general) of all kinds and that is what is important. It was very insulting as an animal lover to have someone assume the worst or that I did something intentionally to harm our bird. That's just ridiculous. Next time, PLEASE read a post/question in it's entirety, and ask for more info before making wrong assumptions if in doubt.

Otherwise, to get back on the thread topic (which is birds, correct?) . . . Let me repeat the question: "Has anyone ever heard of this? " -that is, parents killing their own. Can we try it again without any venom this time? Thank you, I much appreciate it. If anyone would like any more information let me know.
 
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I just got the ok from my landlady last night to get a bird so I went right out and got a cage,stand and toys,felt like fixing a nursery for an expected baby,LOL! Which it is. I am waiting to hear from a nearby bird store on a breeder having some Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] Parrolets. The store I bought my cage at I asked if they knew of any around and he said their store in a town 30 min. away had them and gave me the phone# so I called and they said yep they had them and they were Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] so I go all the way out there and it says right on the cage Pacific Parrolets!:mad: :mad: :mad: I wish I had thought to get the guy's name on the phone and told him while talking that if I came out there and they were not what he said he would be giving me gas money for"bait and switch" tactics! I will call the cops if I have to next time I am lied to like that! Anyway, I Thank The Lord for giving me the willpower to walk out of there with buying the WRONG bird! I have done my research, and I know that the Pacific Parrotlets do NOT have the gentle temperment of the Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] so I am not settling for less! After all I want my 4 year old granddaughter to be able to enjoy the bird as well when she comes to visit every other weekend. But I am very excited about getting one of these,they sound perfect for me. I love parakeets exhuberance,but they are just too noisy for my tastes anymore with their continous chatter,and scolding. Not excessively loud like a bigger bird, but certainly loud enough to get on your nerves in the livingroom and when trying to hear a movie,LOL! The Parrotlet has a very soft voice,and it's chirps are soft pitched as well. Ohhhh I am so excited!:clap: :clap: :clap:
 
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soblessed53 said:
I just got the ok from my landlady last night to get a bird so I went right out and got a cage,stand and toys,felt like fixing a nursery for an expected baby,LOL! Which it is. I am waiting to hear from a nearby bird store on a breeder having some Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] Parrolets. The store I bought my cage at I asked if they knew of any around and he said their store in a town 30 min. away had them and gave me the phone# so I called and they said yep they had them and they were Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] so I go all the way out there and it says right on the cage Pacific Parrolets!:mad: :mad: :mad: I wish I had thought to get the guy's name on the phone and told him while talking that if I came out there and they were not what he said he would be giving me gas money for"bait and switch" tactics! I will call the cops if I have to next time I am lied to like that! Anyway, I Thank The Lord for giving me the willpower to walk out of there with buying the WRONG bird! I have done my research, and I know that the Pacific Parrotlets do NOT have the gentle temperment of the Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] so I am not settling for less! After all I want my 4 year old granddaughter to be able to enjoy the bird as well when she comes to visit every other weekend. But I am very excited about getting one of these,they sound perfect for me. I love parakeets exhuberance,but they are just too noisy for my tastes anymore with their continous chatter,and scolding. Not excessively loud like a bigger bird, but certainly loud enough to get on your nerves in the livingroom and when trying to hear a movie,LOL! The Parrotlet has a very soft voice,and it's chirps are soft pitched as well. Ohhhh I am so excited!:clap: :clap: :clap:

Congratulations on your new friend (when you get it :0) Enjoy!
 
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Yeah!! How exciting. Do you have a digital camera so you can take pics? Oh oh oh, you got to start thinking of names!!!! Or do you already have some picked out? I wouldn't be surprised if you did!! I'm so excited for you now!! Woohoo

 
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LOL,yes,I am sooo excited,and I do have a new digital camera that I haven't even tried yet. I love your little birdie and must confess I stole it,LOL!:blush: I haven't had much time to go through the pet names yet,so far thinking of Bizzy,or Squeak,since they would suit either male or female,but Green [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] Parrolets are very easy to sex,so I will know which one it is.

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[font=arial, helvetica, verdana, sans-serif]Smaller than a budgie, the parrotlet is the tiniest hookbill in captivity. Some measure less than four inches long. [/font][font=arial, helvetica, verdana, sans-serif](Photo of male Pacific parrotlet courtesy of Erika Lemberger of The Parrotlet Connection.)[/font]

THE BUDGIE HAS to be the smallest parrot there is, right? Think again: The tiniest hookbill in captivity is a feisty little green bird called the parrotlet. The green-[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] variety (Forpus passerinus) of this South American psittacine measures only 3 1/2 inches long and weighs less than an ounce, about half the size of a budgie. Parrotlets have streamlined wedge-shaped tails but large beaks for their size. Most birds are olive green, with patches of yellow, grey or blue to differentiate the seven subspecies. Although they make fine pets, parrotlets are not as widely available as the budgie nor as affordable. The normal Pacific (Forpus coelestis), the most popular pet parrotlet, costs a whopping $150 to $200. The yellow-face, blue-wing (Forpus xanthopterygius) and Mexican (Forpus cyanopygius) parrotlets are the scarcest, and Sclater's parrotlets (Forpus sclateri) are available only in England.
[font=arial, helvetica, verdana, sans-serif]Countries of origin:[/font] Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Colombia, Ecuador, French Guiana, Guyana, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Venezuela, Caribbean islands

[font=arial, helvetica, verdana, sans-serif]Size:[/font] Very small. 3 1/2 inches long and 18 grams (green-[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]) to six inches and 45 grams (yellow-face).

[font=arial, helvetica, verdana, sans-serif]Personality:[/font] Boisterous and outgoing, but can be moody and temperamental like its big cousin, the Amazon parrot. Parrotlets enjoy large cages, toys and attention, although they tend to cope better than larger parrots when left alone for extended periods. Green-rumps tend to have the gentlest personalities. Relatively quiet voice.

[font=arial, helvetica, verdana, sans-serif]Talking ability:[/font] Fairly poor. The best talkers, spectacles, have high raspy voices.



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[font=arial, helvetica, verdana, sans-serif]Several hundred parrotlets in an outdoor aviary.
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[font=arial, helvetica, verdana, sans-serif]Average lifespan:[/font] 30 years.



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