Billy Graham Still Relevant Despite Age

[LOCO]

Billy is a wonderful saint if he was a Catholic he would be up for Sainthood (capital S).

A wonderful family man, a wonderful preacher and above all a wonderful Christian.

A TRUE christian, he walks the talk.

Blessings

 

[thesunisout]

It's amazing isn't it how people can be so blind as to deny the evidence sitting right in front of their faces? It is really astonishing..that they are offended by the suggestion of apostacy against a man, but aren't offended that a perversion of the Lords gospel is being preached, and refuse to investigate the matter. Disturbing is really a better word for this.

That's not what Billy Graham is saying. He is saying Jesus is not the only way. Even his son, Franklin, is saying that Billy's message now is consistent with his teaching in the 1960's. It's all available for viewing on youtube if you do some digging. Or, there have been other threads on this very subject on this forum if you prefer.

 

[stelow]

It's amazing isn't it how people can be so blind as to deny the evidence sitting right in front of their faces? It is really astonishing..that they are offended by the suggestion of apostacy against a man, but aren't offended that a perversion of the Lords gospel is being preached, and refuse to investigate the matter. Disturbing is really a better word for this.

Astonishing would be the best word for this.

 

[MountainofGod1]

there are all kinds of doctrines out there, the best anyone has on Billy Graham is out of context statements taken from him at the age of 80.

He doesn`t communicate that well with this generation, and has a testament of preaching Christ before and after the war and saw our country go from sticks and stones to rockets on the moon. He`s 80 years old now at least for God sake

i think any genuine Christian with understanding would agree that there are many paths to Jesus, but since Jesus is God, it can be put many ways in the english language.

 

[LOCO]

Think about it.

Billy is also talking about those who lived BEFORE Christ and those who lived after him but never heard of Christ and his message.

He is talking about those who live today who have never heard of Christ.

If they lived good, decent, honest lives, are they doomed through no fault of their own? Are they doomed because they lived in far and remote villages?

Of course not, these souls also are at the mercy of God.

 

[MountainofGod1]

what exactly did billy say?

 

[LOCO]

what exactly did billy say?

Here is one example.

Here is a transcript of some of what he said in a Larry King interview. Some people had their noses bent out of shape because he refused to condemn people who were Mormons or of other faiths. When pressed he said 'that's just not my calling'.

If you interpret it in context what he says is he loves all human beings regardless of religion.

Being the intellectually honest Christian that he is, he refuses to blaspheme by taking on Gods role and condemning them to Hell. In fact a firm sigh of 'oh no, I would never judge', he realises to judge is to take on Gods role.

Only a really, really, really STUPID Christian would blaspheme against the Holy Spirit by taking on Gods role in condemning someone else to Hell. It is the only unforgivable sin.

He is smart enough to realise that people of other faiths or no faith at all CAN and DO convert to Christ later in life or on their deathbed and it is not because someone said 'they are destined for Hell' (fear of hell is a lousy reason to convert).

Love of Christ is the only valid reason to convert, love trumps fear always. It is usally because of love, they convert because they have personally had a profound spiritual encounter with Christ.

He doesn't ever deny Jesus.



Billy on Larry King on 6-16-05:

KING: Are you forgiving of the infirmities of other people?


GRAHAM: Absolutely. I am. I mean, I . . .


KING: Isn't that hard?


GRAHAM: . . .I try to forgive. I never hold a grudge. In fact, many people say that I never get angry. I don't think I get angry. But maybe I do sometimes, but I keep it. I don't explode to anybody.


KING: Do you feel the same about other faiths?


GRAHAM: Absolutely.


KING: Buddhism?


GRAHAM: I love them all, and welcome them all, and love to be with them, and friends with all of them. For example, I just talked to a man in New York City, he was a Mormon.


KING: My father-in-law.


GRAHAM: Your father-in-law. And I've loved the Mormons for years, and yet there is a big divide between the Mormons and some of the other groups. But I have great friends among the Mormons. And the same among the Catholics. Of course, I loved Pope John Paul II and watched the whole process of his suffering, his dying and the tremendous -- my daughter went to represent me . . .
KING: I know. You were on with us the night he died.


GRAHAM: That's right. Thank you.


KING: But what about those faiths -- the Mormons and the others that you mentioned -- believe in Christ. They believe they will meet Christ. What about those like the Jews, the Muslims, who don't believe as you believe.


GRAHAM: That's in God's hands. I can't be their judge.


KING: You don't judge them?


GRAHAM: No. No, I don't say you're going to hell, and you're, oh, I don't.




Blessings





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[revrobor]

What is required for one's salvation is the deliberate choice to follow God (John 3:16) no matter how He is revealed to them. If they make that choice they are saved by the shed blood of Jesus, It does not matter if they are Mormons, JWs or have never heard the name of Jesus. Read Rom. 1:19-20. That covers the natives in the heart of the jungle who never hear the Gospel and those who are caught up in fringe religions as long as their desire is to follow the one true God as He has revealed Himself to them. When Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life", and "No one comes to the father except by me" he was saying people are saved because of what HE HAS DONE not "you have to know my name". Believing the Bible is absolutely true, baptism or membership in a particular religious organization (church) is NOT a requirement for salvation. And remember Jesus told us to love our enemies. Dr. Graham is being obedient to that command when he choses to love everyone. Many "Christians" could learn from him.

 

[MountainofGod1]

God is the one who will decide when you blaspheme the holy spirit. I see nothing wrong with loving mormons or anyone else, after all the greatest gift is love, isn't it?

and you hold him at fault because he didn't condemn someone that you would have?

Billy Graham has always tried to find common ground with people in order to identify with them and speak the gospel to them on level. he never tried to be higher than them, to be holier than thou... he was essentially a gentile to the gentile, a Jew to the Jew and a mormon to mormons.

paul did the same things

i think you are taking great liberties with his words

i have a ton of friends that aren't christian, does that mean I am of the devil?

 

[stelow]

The Christian believes God has revealed Himself through His son Christ Jesus, if what the Christian believes is true, then that makes everything else false, and means that there can only be one way. The religious pluralist teacher rejects this truth, and tries to establish a belief of their own making, this is either out of ignorance or direct rebellion.

 

[MountainofGod1]

or you can have your beliefs and allow that other people also have a relationship with the Lord that they don't form into the same words of the English language as you

so you don't understand what they said, but have to have faith that God does. What's important to me is to smell out people that are wolves in the crowd, and who will pass themselves off as ignorant when in reality they are trying to lead sheep astray.

Billy Graham never forsook Christ and anyone who says he did is taking great liberties with his verbiage and doctrine and ignoring about six decades of his preaching that ought to be considered before condemning his words as an old man.

 

[Norah63]

Man unwisely uses too much of his time to pick at his fellowman. That's what a video like this says to me. Clips, here and there of many conversations.
Christians should play to score and not just to block and tackle.

 

[cavell]

or you can have your beliefs and allow that other people also have a relationship with the Lord that they don't form into the same words of the English language as you

so you don't understand what they said, but have to have faith that God does. What's important to me is to smell out people that are wolves in the crowd, and who will pass themselves off as ignorant when in reality they are trying to lead sheep astray.

Billy Graham never forsook Christ and anyone who says he did is taking great liberties with his verbiage and doctrine and ignoring about six decades of his preaching that ought to be considered before condemning his words as an old man.

Thank you so much dear brother. So good to hear you defend this mighty gospel preacher of the 20th/21st century. Rev. Graham has preached the gospel of Salvation through Jesus Christ, and His Death on the cross to more people than any other in human time. Thousands responded to his gospel call worldwide.

"Just as I am without one plea,
But that thy blood was shed for me.
And that Thou bidst me come to thee,
O Lamb of God....I come."

Sadly many today have never known such experience.

 

[LOCO]

God is the one who will decide when you blaspheme the holy spirit. I see nothing wrong with loving mormons or anyone else, after all the greatest gift is love, isn't it?

and you hold him at fault because he didn't condemn someone that you would have?

Billy Graham has always tried to find common ground with people in order to identify with them and speak the gospel to them on level. he never tried to be higher than them, to be holier than thou... he was essentially a gentile to the gentile, a Jew to the Jew and a mormon to mormons.

paul did the same things

i think you are taking great liberties with his words

i have a ton of friends that aren't christian, does that mean I am of the devil?

Did you even read my post?

Read it again very slowly and carefully.

Read my earlier post too.

I said others condemned him not me.

 

[MountainofGod1]

no im pretty sure i read it the first time

not sure what you are trying to say, I guess.

 

[fortheus]

Billy Graham is a sign unto us. I knew that a long time ago. When his mother was dying, here words to him were "Preach the Gospel son." His response was, I'll do it, I;ll do it until Jesus comes." When I heard him testifying to this, the Holy Spirit jumped in my heart, and the Lord said ":he is your sign":. I don't usually share this story with people because people do not believe God speaks to people today. But, I decided today to share it with you. I had as a confirmation of a youtube video that I stumbled upon where another Christian shared the same thing was revealed to him. I will try to find that video and post it.

What does it mean that he is a sign? Well I think God will allow is to know seasons. And I hope Billy Graham lives a good long time. But, when he dies as all men do,I think we should start really looking for Lord Jesus to appear. I say that rather tongue in cheek, because I do not really know what it means. I can only say what I think it means. I don't mind being wrong, but I do hope to see Lord Jesus soon..

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