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Billy Graham (RIP) and the Baha'i

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Years ago a Baha'i friend of mine wrote me the following about his encounter with Billy Graham some thirty years. I thought I would share it with you.

"At one (long) point in my northern sojourn I had a home just around
the corner from KJNP AM "your 50,000 watt gospel voice of the north"
(KJNP supposedly meant "King Jesus, North Pole) & due to various
circumstances I became the station management's personal teaching
project. If they'd been calmer about it I wouldn't be laughing about
it so much. ;{)>

It came to pass that I was out of town for a couple of weeks & ended
up returning a full day before I had originally planned (& arranged
with my friends who had my car.) As this was the time before cell
phones & not everybody had answering machines as yet I couldn't
contact my friends with news of the change of plans, so I decided to
trust in God & try to hitchhike home.

Imagine how I felt when the KJNP van pulled up.

I decided that a ride is a ride & that I would in all probability get
dropped off at my own front door step so I got in to the van & found
the top management of the station (with whom I had spent many an hour
over tea &c.) & a new face that I recognized but could not
immediately place. The station people were grinning like wolves
looking at a very fat baby moose who was bleating for its mama.

This is where things get interesting. before they introduced me to
their guest one of the KJNP people (who also worked as a DJ, he had a
lovely voice) starts working the same argument on me that he'd been
losing for several weeks about the divinity of Christ vs the humanity
thereof.

Then the stranger piped in before I had quite gotten ready a response
to the very specious question that I was asked & asked who I might
be. So I introduced myself & offered my hand he took my hand &
introduced himself. I think it was the very first time that the
management of KJNP had ever seen me flabbergasted.

While I was collecting my marbles the station president explained
that I was one of those heathen Baha'is that claim that Christ would
dare to return as a "Muhammaden" &c. & that they were trying to
convince me of the errors my ways. I replied, as calmly as I could
under the circumstances that I had yet to find an error in my ways
but that they were more than welcome to investigate my beliefs to try
to find some. But, since everything that they knew about the Baha'i
Faith was either from myself or from reading works by people with an
agenda against the Faith yadda yadda.

Rev. Graham agreed with me that if one is investigating the truth of
another man's beliefs it is best to go to the source of that belief.
After the ensuing uproar the DJ commented that I had never answered
his question. So I did, knowing full well that whatever answer I gave
would be attacked for it "obvious" weaknesses. It was.

Then Mr. Graham piped in again. On my side. Then he began to lambast
the KJNP staff for their unchristian behavior in "ganging up" on
somebody. During this tongue-lashing he mentioned that one of his
favorite neighbors was a Baha'i, that he had read some of the books &
whereas he could not accept the teachings as his own, there was a
great wisdom there that *all* Christians could learn from. That my
answer to the question satisfied him because it was "a really stupid
question" that was answered with wisdom & patience. "Baha'is believe
in God, love the Lord Jesus & repent their sins, isn't that what we
ask of our own people?"

It was a thoroughly cowed crew that pulled the van up to my domicile,
I was assisted out with quiet thoughtfulness. I thanked Mr. Graham as
graciously as I could stating that I would invite the whole lot of
them in but I'd been away from home for a while & there was no food
in the house. Mr. Graham smiled, thanked me (he had gotten out of the
van to) put his hand on my shoulder & quietly stated that if more
Christians acted like the very few Baha'is he'd met then Christianity
would indeed be the only religion in the world. I told him that I was
really not all that good, "I'm trying, sometimes very trying, but I
do my best. Thanks, I'll pray for your continued success."

"And I for yours." He got back into the van & they left.

That evening, on the radio, I listened to the discussion (& sermon)
with the good reverend & he mentioned his encounter with me in
passing. It was all very positive.

I wonder who his Baha'i neighbor was, & what their relationship was
like. That is the person who I really feel deserves the credit here.
But, if I had allowed myself to lose my temper the situation would
have been memorable for a very different reason."

It is a pity that Franklin Graham does not share his father's big-heart.
 

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Hi though i also think it wrong to gang up on someone with differing opinion (do unto others as you would want) Is it a big heart to leave a person comfortable in their sins? Billy Graham was a sell out from what ive seen. He did much harm to the gospel in his latter years, saying the Catholic church (which insists on a lie, "joining their membership to be the way of salvation") was compatible with protestant Christianity. The protestant Church broke away from it because of their heretical teaching, diabolical treatment of any dissenters and the gluttonous and debauched lives of hierarchy.

The bible is clear that anyone who takes away or adds to "The words of this book, shall not share in the tree of life and the holy city"

Jesus has not returned, and by His own words "the Son of man coming on the clouds with power and glory" LK 21:27

V26 says " men will faint from fear and anxiety over what is coming upon the earth and because the power of the heavens will be shaken"

This has not happened, and when it does, ALL will see it, not just a few privileged in a corner.
 
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It is a pity that Franklin Graham does not share his father's big-heart.

A pity indeed. He is not in the same class as his father.
 
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"When names are called for crowns in heaven, they will be the nameless hidden saints among us. They may not be called Christians. They just love God."

~~~ Billy Graham (Ottawa 1999)
 
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Hi though i also think it wrong to gang up on someone with differing opinion (do unto others as you would want) Is it a big heart to leave a person comfortable in their sins?

Except no one was even talking about sin in that exchange. It was all about beliefs.
 
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I don't necessarily think he intended to endorse Baha'i beliefs. Being respectful isn't endorsement.

Not suggesting that he was endorsing our beliefs, only that he expressed a spirit of open-mindedess and tolerance which is all too lacking in Evangelicals today.



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But, since everything that they knew about the Baha'i Faith was either from myself or from reading works by people with an agenda against the Faith yadda yadda.

Rev. Graham agreed with me that if one is investigating the truth of another man's beliefs it is best to go to the source of that belief.
Very, very true. One should definitely read the Koran and ahadith rather than listen to what Muslims and Baha'is say about it. :oldthumbsup: Hi, Suzy. :wave:
 
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It is a pity that Franklin Graham does not share his father's big-heart.
Billy Graham commented that it is a pity that Franklin Graham is faced with a society that is much more hostile towards religious faith than was the case when he, Billy, was doing his own evangelism and people were, by and large, willing to listen with open minds.
 
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It is hard to imagine anyone more hostile to religious faiths other than his own than Franklin Graham.
You don't have to imagine. I could give you a long list of individuals and groups. I might not be able to pronounce their names, but I'm sure you can.
 
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Not suggesting that he was endorsing our beliefs, only that he expressed a spirit of open-mindedess and tolerance which is all too lacking in Evangelicals today.o

Hmmm your funny. An unbeliever deciding what Evangelicals are lacking. Was Jesus open minded towards sin, was He tolerant of the falsely religious ?
I thought Bahai people believe Jesus has already come back, but you dont seem to have any idea about His commands and instructions to His disciples.

If anyone is not receptive to the gospel, "shake the dust off and move on"

Billy Graham endorsed alot of things Jesus didnt.
 
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Not suggesting that he was endorsing our beliefs, only that he expressed a spirit of open-mindedess and tolerance which is all too lacking in Evangelicals today.

My comment was not specifically directed at you, but was instead directed at this general conversation to try to clarify the issue.

I don't necessarily agree that evangelicals as a group are intolerant of other religions. I think that's a very sweeping generalization. Especially because the term "evangelical" can be defined in different ways. And what some people may believe is "tolerance" actually goes beyond the traditional definition of the word to include something it traditionally did not.
 
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willing to listen with open minds.

or minds are just more open now and it's harder to sell your views to people.

or perhaps a better way to put it is there is more competition in the spiritual marketplace. Billy struck while the iron was hot in a time when Christianity had a near monopoly on American spirituality. That is no more, so today's spiritual salesmen gotta work harder.
 
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or minds are just more open now and it's harder to sell your views to people.
I reported what Billy Graham had said about the world he faced vs. the world his son faces today as he evangelizes.

Personally, I think his view of the matter was correct. But correct or not, that was his "take" on the matter.
 
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The Qur'an? Yes. An account past down orally for centuries before being written down? Not so much.
The writings of Baha'i were past down orally for centuries before being written down?
 
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