Bilderberg Group - Good-evil or overrated

[mindlight]

What do you think? Are they the architects of a new one world government or just powerful people who meet in private to discuss pressing global issues. Are they steering our world in welcome directions, in unwelcome directions or do they have no influence at all?

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[Saving Hawaii]

Somebody here already said it, but it'd be a little worrying if the world's rich and powerful didn't get together to talk shop every once in a while.

 

[missjasmine]

Shhh don't say that name, you'll be labeled a loon xD

Go check out my post I wrote about them and look at the amazing results that discussion yielded

 

[revanneosl]

They want to be a force for good, in terms of mutual understanding across national lines.

They are almost certainly less effective then they'd like to be.

The conspiracy theories surrounding them are truly hysterican - but in the fun way...okay, in the other way too.

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

They want to be a force for good, in terms of mutual understanding across national lines.

They are almost certainly less effective then they'd like to be.

The conspiracy theories surrounding them are truly hysterican - but in the fun way...okay, in the other way too.

I agree the conspiracy theorists go to ludicrous extremes re the Bilderbergs. I do believe that the individuals in that organization do wield a lot of behind-the-scenes influence, because of their wealth and power, but to brand them as some monolithic group complete with mind-control lasers and thought-readers takes things way too far.

Then again, just to play devil's advocate: why all the hush-hush and secrecy and elitism if the Bilderbergs are really a force for good? What goes on and what is discussed at those meetings that could not stand the light of day?

 

[Alexander Nevsky]

Just a bunch of western flaneurs who see western influence to fade away and cant really do anything about it…

 

[Archaeopteryx]

Not really sure about them... nothing compelling (at least in my reading) has come from those meetings to warrant urgent attention, but that is because they are held in strict secrecy, and as NewWorldMan has mentioned, if they wish to be a force for good (and thereby dispel the conspiracy theories surrounding their elitist council) they should at least shed some light on what their thoughts about the world are. The notion that this elite clique is conspiring against the world, or at least conspiring to the extent of their own trans-national interests, is based on the deeply retain association between high-level secrecy and conspiracy. People think: only plots are hatched in secret. These individuals meet in secret... therefore, they must be plotting! Personally, I think that if that were the case, the Bilderbergers' actually did quite a terrible job at maintaining the secrecy of their existence, and apparently, the secrecy of their plans... because we are currently discussing it on here! Not so secret now is it... There are surely better ways in which an elitist clique can meet in secret without being exposed...

 

[revanneosl]

Well, their stated purpose is to get people from different nations (one progressive & one conservative each) together and just, you know, talk to each other. They're not making decisions, they're not implementing programs, they're not doing anything. They're just sitting around talking - dispelling (on a very small scale) the ignorance and stereotyping that tends to spring up between any goup of people who don't actually know each other.

It is top be hoped that this small-scale experiment in conversation and mutual understanding will bear fruit when these powerful people return to their regular places of work.

But there's nothing in the above that the Press would be interested in. Indeed, there's nothing in the above that's the Press' business. What would the story be? "Condoleeza Rice and Tim Geithner lose in mixed doubles to Matti Vanhannen and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands"?

 

[Judgment]

You have to be completely blind not think people rich enough to be in a hedge fund and that represent sovereign wealth funds, the derivative market lobby etc... combined with political leaders that become president's etc... or are in the intelligence field etc... are not one of two things at this point, really really given strong delusion defined by prophetic scripture or are just really really really bad at securing the value of labor etc...

The people that dismiss this group are clueless or are in fact the same people that support the power and influence at the top that established the bank and market quants devouring principle do to ridiculously over leveraged fools running the beast that is getting bailed out by the sellouts bought by the inversion.

Zero Interest in the market defines the Laodicean that just stands by as Lucifer rises. Do not listen to the blind that dismiss the Bilderberg as a group that has no history of undue influence and affect. Take a look around. Do you really think people that dismiss this group have any credibility? Do some research. At this point, if you have not been invested and are not now divesting provision, buying on the dips etc..., it does not matter, the global debt exposure is so massive this group has no credibility, they just happen to hold a huge influence in this new world order global credit market and highest levels of political and corporate power.

 

[Judgment]

You have to be completely blind not think people rich enough to be in a hedge fund and that represent sovereign wealth funds, the derivative market lobby etc... combined with political leaders that become president's etc... or are in the intelligence field etc... are not one of two things at this point, really really given strong delusion defined by prophetic scripture or are just really really really bad at securing the value of labor etc...

The people that dismiss this group are clueless or are in fact the same people that support the power and influence at the top that established the bank and market quants devouring principle do to ridiculously over leveraged fools running the beast that is getting bailed out by the sellouts bought by the inversion.

Zero Interest in the market defines the Laodicean that just stands by as Lucifer rises. Do not listen to the blind that dismiss the Bilderberg as a group that has no history of undue influence and affect. Take a look around. Do you really think people that dismiss this group have any credibility? Do some research. At this point, if you have not been invested and are not now divesting provision, buying on the dips etc..., it does not matter, the global debt exposure is so massive this group has no credibility, they just happen to hold a huge influence in this new world order global credit market and highest levels of political and corporate power.

Keep in mind what time the events now on the horizon offer when you consider these questions. What I see on the horizon is a disruption large enough to establish the prophetic false peace before this year ends. This will offer the market and the geopolitical new world order peace defined by people like Zbigneiw, Obama, Bush, Brown, Sarkozy, Medvedev, Netinyahu, Ahdinijad, the Chinese etc... all nations and Israel.

If you know the judgment of these leaders and nations is defined by the prophetic strong delusion, is it possible to work at a job established by these nations, tongues and man?

 

[brinny]

You have to be completely blind not think people rich enough to be in a hedge fund and that represent sovereign wealth funds, the derivative market lobby etc... combined with political leaders that become president's etc... or are in the intelligence field etc... are not one of two things at this point, really really given strong delusion defined by prophetic scripture or are just really really really bad at securing the value of labor etc...

The people that dismiss this group are clueless or are in fact the same people that support the power and influence at the top that established the bank and market quants devouring principle do to ridiculously over leveraged fools running the beast that is getting bailed out by the sellouts bought by the inversion.

Zero Interest in the market defines the Laodicean that just stands by as Lucifer rises. Do not listen to the blind that dismiss the Bilderberg as a group that has no history of undue influence and affect. Take a look around. Do you really think people that dismiss this group have any credibility? Do some research. At this point, if you have not been invested and are not now divesting provision, buying on the dips etc..., it does not matter, the global debt exposure is so massive this group has no credibility, they just happen to hold a huge influence in this new world order global credit market and highest levels of political and corporate power.

Bingo.

 

[brinny]

Well, their stated purpose is to get people from different nations (one progressive & one conservative each) together and just, you know, talk to each other. They're not making decisions, they're not implementing programs, they're not doing anything. They're just sitting around talking - dispelling (on a very small scale) the ignorance and stereotyping that tends to spring up between any goup of people who don't actually know each other.

It is top be hoped that this small-scale experiment in conversation and mutual understanding will bear fruit when these powerful people return to their regular places of work.

But there's nothing in the above that the Press would be interested in. Indeed, there's nothing in the above that's the Press' business. What would the story be? "Condoleeza Rice and Tim Geithner lose in mixed doubles to Matti Vanhannen and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands"?

and you know this because.....

 

[mindlight]

Somebody here already said it, but it'd be a little worrying if the world's rich and powerful didn't get together to talk shop every once in a while.

Very true and there are things to be achieved by being friends with other world leaders or at very least sharing opinions outside of the glare of media attention about the real issues facing all of us all around the world.

 

[mindlight]

Shhh don't say that name, you'll be labeled a loon xD

Go check out my post I wrote about them and look at the amazing results that discussion yielded

Where did you post - can you provide a link for the rest of us.

 

[mindlight]

Well, their stated purpose is to get people from different nations (one progressive & one conservative each) together and just, you know, talk to each other. They're not making decisions, they're not implementing programs, they're not doing anything. They're just sitting around talking - dispelling (on a very small scale) the ignorance and stereotyping that tends to spring up between any goup of people who don't actually know each other.

It is top be hoped that this small-scale experiment in conversation and mutual understanding will bear fruit when these powerful people return to their regular places of work.

But there's nothing in the above that the Press would be interested in. Indeed, there's nothing in the above that's the Press' business. What would the story be? "Condoleeza Rice and Tim Geithner lose in mixed doubles to Matti Vanhannen and Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands"?

This is what this appears to be. I also note that the membership includes the more inclusive minded internationalists of their chosen nations. These people are not necessarily representative of opinion in their nations which is not always so globally minded. Personally I think their agenda will be realised with or without their participation in time. The extent to which they are an accelerator to globalisation trends and a real influence on these processes interests me though.

 

[mindlight]

You have to be completely blind not think people rich enough to be in a hedge fund and that represent sovereign wealth funds, the derivative market lobby etc... combined with political leaders that become president's etc... or are in the intelligence field etc... are not one of two things at this point, really really given strong delusion defined by prophetic scripture or are just really really really bad at securing the value of labor etc...

The people that dismiss this group are clueless or are in fact the same people that support the power and influence at the top that established the bank and market quants devouring principle do to ridiculously over leveraged fools running the beast that is getting bailed out by the sellouts bought by the inversion.

Zero Interest in the market defines the Laodicean that just stands by as Lucifer rises. Do not listen to the blind that dismiss the Bilderberg as a group that has no history of undue influence and affect. Take a look around. Do you really think people that dismiss this group have any credibility? Do some research. At this point, if you have not been invested and are not now divesting provision, buying on the dips etc..., it does not matter, the global debt exposure is so massive this group has no credibility, they just happen to hold a huge influence in this new world order global credit market and highest levels of political and corporate power.

These are without a doubt rich,powerful and influential people. That does not have to imply an absence of moral principle or even crucial culpability in the current finance crisis. This crisis has damaged the portfolios and credibility of many in Bilderbergs membership as much as the rest of us so one wonders to what extent they are the beast or to what extent they merely try to ride it and lead it to better ends. Globalisation leads to Lucifer risiing and his new world order but so also as the gospel is preached to all nations and as history moves towards its end Christ comes again. Good and evil both push this globalisation agenda. it seems inevitable. So if not the Bilderberg club, another club whose name we do not know is trying to run the show. Maybe the delusion here is the one that believes these forces are the products of the choices of the rich and powerful as much as the suspicion of those excluded from their discussions. The world moves to its crucial tipping points with or without their call. However the effort to understand the forces at work seems important and even noble at whatever level God has placed us in the global pecking order.

 

[Judgment]

These are without a doubt rich,powerful and influential people. That does not have to imply an absence of moral principle or even crucial culpability in the current finance crisis. This crisis has damaged the portfolios and credibility of many in Bilderbergs membership as much as the rest of us so one wonders to what extent they are the beast or to what extent they merely try to ride it and lead it to better ends. Globalisation leads to Lucifer risiing and his new world order but so also as the gospel is preached to all nations and as history moves towards its end Christ comes again. Good and evil both push this globalisation agenda. it seems inevitable. So if not the Bilderberg club, another club whose name we do not know is trying to run the show. Maybe the delusion here is the one that believes these forces are the products of the choices of the rich and powerful as much as the suspicion of those excluded from their discussions. The world moves to its crucial tipping points with or without their call. However the effort to understand the forces at work seems important and even noble at whatever level God has placed us in the global pecking order.

There is plenty of info that can be posted on this group and the people in it and some of the amazingly weird junk they are into like the Blavatsky types etc... I have witnessed more than a few connections in this city. The last meeting before Greece was here for a reason and it was right by all the FBI, CIA, AMDOCS type Northrop Raytheon Exxon NSA Herndon Virginia just before the presidential election during a financial controlled demolition for a reason. I have met some of the liars in this town and I know the difference between a Bilderberg and a typical delusional stooge. Everything these people do is calculated. Don't kid yourself, people actually do belong to Skull and Bones and get baptized in coffins and people do have their eyes wide shut. The age old sacrificial offer to sustain the power of the shadow of death offeing the familiar spirit proclaiming ''do what thou will thus be the whole of the law'' ''you shall not perish but, do eat and know good and evil as the most high'' is obvious. It is just like the old Phoenician fire that consumes a generation, the heat is obvious.