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Big Bang and Evolution

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What is the current theory of the Bing Bang and Evolution?

Assume that non-living animate matter through billions of years created organic elements, and these elements become self-organized, complex objects somehow become living matter?
How is non-living matter "know" how to create building blocks of life?

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I don't think the Big Bang or evolution are an useful parts of your question. The existance of the solar system (which I think we can both agree is necessary for life in Earth) stretches back to less than 40% of that of the universe. As far as evolution goes, it is only really useful for addressing issues once self-reproduction (life) has already taken place.
 
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madarab said:
I don't think the Big Bang or evolution are an useful parts of your question. The existance of the solar system (which I think we can both agree is necessary for life in Earth) stretches back to less than 40% of that of the universe. As far as evolution goes, it is only really useful for addressing issues once self-reproduction (life) has already taken place.
Thats true, i am just looking at the whole picture.
 
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Big Bang Theory: attempts to explain our observations on the contents of the universe and why things like galaxies behave as they do; makes predictions about such behaviour. Limits itself to that. Doesn't say much on where it all came from, just that it's been there.

Abiogenesis Theory: attempts to explain how organic life may have arisen out of non-organic chemical components; makes predictions about such interactions. Limits itself to that. Doesn't say much about the origins of the universe or the diversity of organic life.

Evolutionary Theory: attempts to explain why we see the diversity of life that we do; makes predictions about what we can expect to see in terms of change in life over time. Doesn't say much about the origins of the universe or the origins of organic life, it just assumes that both have always been there.

While there are those, such as myself, who accept all three of these general theories, I do not believe that there is an attempt at a general theory that unifies them all. In that regard they seem to be discreet from one another, and that's how I approach it in my thinking.

jinkazama said:
What is the current theory of the Bing Bang and Evolution?

Assume that non-living animate matter through billions of years created organic elements, and these elements become self-organized, complex objects somehow become living matter?
How is non-living matter "know" how to create building blocks of life?

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chaoschristian said:
Big Bang Theory: attempts to explain our observations on the contents of the universe and why things like galaxies behave as they do; makes predictions about such behaviour. Limits itself to that. Doesn't say much on where it all came from, just that it's been there.

Abiogenesis Theory: attempts to explain how organic life may have arisen out of non-organic chemical components; makes predictions about such interactions. Limits itself to that. Doesn't say much about the origins of the universe or the diversity of organic life.

Evolutionary Theory: attempts to explain why we see the diversity of life that we do; makes predictions about what we can expect to see in terms of change in life over time. Doesn't say much about the origins of the universe or the origins of organic life, it just assumes that both have always been there.

While there are those, such as myself, who accept all three of these general theories, I do not believe that there is an attempt at a general theory that unifies them all. In that regard they seem to be discreet from one another, and that's how I approach it in my thinking.

Thanks i recognize those terms, WE need a unifying equation for these, anyone take a challenge and win a Nobel Prize?
 
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jinkazama said:
WHow is non-living matter "know" how to create building blocks of life?
Same way that hydrogen and oxygen know to create water.

Did you know that organic molecules have been detected in interstellar dust clouds? They're a lot more common than you might think. Or at least more common than I thought :)
 
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jinkazama said:
Thanks i recognize those terms, WE need a unifying equation for these, anyone take a challenge and win a Nobel Prize?

While I believe there is a theological approach that unifies all three, I do not see even the need for a scientific approach that unifies all three.

However, through sciences such as quantum theory and string theory I am open to the possibility that there may be some natural underlying explanation. However, the science of it is beyond me. No trip to Stockholm for me. I'll just read the abstract.
 
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michabo said:
Same way that hydrogen and oxygen know to create water.

Did you know that organic molecules have been detected in interstellar dust clouds? They're a lot more common than you might think. Or at least more common than I thought :)

Thanks, I already know that in Chemistry. Hydrogen bonds!!!
 
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That is something odd...Who was it that did Abiotic Synthesis of Organic Compounds? Fox, I believe?

In my own, personal opinion, I think that when you ask "How do they KNOW to etc." you aren't thinking in the right terms. Life, as we know it, developed from things that happened. It just so happened (theoretically, I don't mean this as a 100% fact) that inorganic gases, UV radiation from the sun, a lack of a protective atmosphere, volcanic heat, and constant thunderstorms, led to the spontaneous creation of organic matter...Oh dear...what were they again?

::sifts through messy notes::

Amino acids, early nucleotides, carbohydrates? And a few more?

Life as we know it is the way we know it because that is how it developed. Oh...confusing...can someone help me? It isn't that Life is this "goal" that early things had to live up to, Life just happened to be the result of random occurrences.
 
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