Biden White House Caught-- facilitated DOJ's criminal probe against Trump

[Valletta]

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee and the committee's likely chairman if the GOP win control of Congress in November, called the Biden White House's involvement and privilege waiver "amazing news" with implications for past and future presidents.

"Look, the left, they've been out to get President Trump because President Trump's a threat to the clique, to the swamp, to the bureaucracy, to the deep state," Jordan told the "Just the News, Not Noise" television show Tuesday night. "Whatever term you want to use. And they all know it.

"That's why they were out to get him before he was in office, and they set up the whole Russia collusion hoax. It's why they tried to get him while he was in office. And of course, obviously they continue to do so now that he's left. It's just never going to end."
Biden White House facilitated DOJ's criminal probe against Trump, scuttled privilege claims: memos

 

[Desk trauma]

Unhun.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Well I like the look of the title of the thread. I am however bracing for disappointment, Hopefully I am wrong... and there is something that will bring a big turn around but so far it's like that old song from the 70s Rock band, Boston "Use to Bad News".

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Well it looks like the article implies that Biden lied in his saying he had no knowledge of this, because the big reason for the raid is found in some White House ruling going back to Watergate where a former president cannot claim Executive Privilege when it runs counter to what the current president wants or his own Executive Privilege.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee and the committee's likely chairman if the GOP win control of Congress in November, called the Biden White House's involvement and privilege waiver "amazing news" with implications for past and future presidents.

"Look, the left, they've been out to get President Trump because President Trump's a threat to the clique, to the swamp, to the bureaucracy, to the deep state," Jordan told the "Just the News, Not Noise" television show Tuesday night. "Whatever term you want to use. And they all know it.

"That's why they were out to get him before he was in office, and they set up the whole Russia collusion hoax. It's why they tried to get him while he was in office. And of course, obviously they continue to do so now that he's left. It's just never going to end."
Biden White House facilitated DOJ's criminal probe against Trump, scuttled privilege claims: memos

How is this "news"?

We've known for *months* (I think about a year) that President Biden was not claiming executive privilege to protect the transition era White House documents from subpoena from Congress and other law suits.

 

[Pommer]

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee and the committee's likely chairman if the GOP win control of Congress in November, called the Biden White House's involvement and privilege waiver "amazing news" with implications for past and future presidents.

"Look, the left, they've been out to get President Trump because President Trump's a threat to the clique, to the swamp, to the bureaucracy, to the deep state," Jordan told the "Just the News, Not Noise" television show Tuesday night. "Whatever term you want to use. And they all know it.

"That's why they were out to get him before he was in office, and they set up the whole Russia collusion hoax. It's why they tried to get him while he was in office. And of course, obviously they continue to do so now that he's left. It's just never going to end."
Biden White House facilitated DOJ's criminal probe against Trump, scuttled privilege claims: memos

The President of the United States of America determined that a former President of the United States of America was not entitled to “executive privilege” simply because they are the former President of the United States of America!
In what way was that wrong?

 

[Valletta]

Unhun.

Remember:
Biden had no advance notice on Mar-a-Lago search, White House says
Biden had no advance notice on Mar-a-Lago search, White House says

Well it looks like the article implies that Biden lied in his saying he had no knowledge of this, because the big reason for the raid is found in some White House ruling going back to Watergate where a former president cannot claim Executive Privilege when it runs counter to what the current president wants or his own Executive Privilege.

If any President could say that there is no executive privilege for another president then he is doing away with executive privilege. That means Joe's private conversations with foreign heads of state, for example, could be revealed the day after Joe leaves office. They would also pack the Supreme Court if they could get away with, or endanger the lives of Supreme Court justices and their families by refusing to enforce the law.

 

[Pommer]

That means Joe's private conversations with foreign heads of state, for example, could be revealed the day after Joe leaves office.

Yes. Private conversations with the heads of other foreign powers could be publicly aired the day after any President leaves the Office.

How many conversations would the Presidents then have with the heads of foreign powers, do you think?

Please, you’re damaging your own arguments with this relentless hyperpartisanship.

 

[Desk trauma]

Remember:
Biden had no advance notice on Mar-a-Lago search, White House says
Biden had no advance notice on Mar-a-Lago search, White House says

If any President could say that there is no executive privilege for another president then he is doing away with executive privilege. That means Joe's private conversations with foreign heads of state, for example, could be revealed the day after Joe leaves office. They would also pack the Supreme Court if they could get away with, or endanger the lives of Supreme Court justices and their families by refusing to enforce the law.

Sure.

 

[wing2000]

How is this "news"?

We've known for *months* (I think about a year) that President Biden was not claiming executive privilege to protect the transition era White House documents from subpoena from Congress and other law suits.

Well I like the look of the title of the thread.

Objective met.

 

[Pommer]

Objective met.

The “bar” is in the third subbasement.

 

[wing2000]

The “bar” is in the third subbasement.

...I really hope we don't have to hear Jim Jordan barking for the next two years...chair of Judiciary? More like chair of the "Are you loyal to Tromp Committee"

 

[Hans Blaster]

If any President could say that there is no executive privilege for another president then he is doing away with executive privilege. That means Joe's private conversations with foreign heads of state, for example, could be revealed the day after Joe leaves office.

What it means is that the executive privilege belongs to the *current* president, not any prior ones regardless of when the record was created. (The same applies to classifications.) The new president could (and generally does) keep internal discussions (like foreign leader calls) from the prior administration private.

What Pres. Biden decided to do was to waive executive privilege on certain White House documents created by the previous administration related to the challenges to the election results, the Ellipse rally, etc. when access was requested by the Jan-6 Committee to those documents in the National Archives.

Of course, this did, without any direct communication between the WH and the DOJ, allow the DOJ through a Grand Jury to subpoena the same documents with out any further involvement from the White House. Ergo, the WH does not need to know any non-public information about the investigation. Clever, eh?

 

[Pommer]

Of course, this did, without any direct communication between the WH and the DOJ, allow the DOJ through a Grand Jury to subpoena the same documents with out any further involvement from the White House. Ergo, the WH does not need to know any non-public information about the investigation. Clever, eh?

I heard that this can happen, knowledgeable and dedicated people can anticipate a need before it becomes a “need” and clear the way for Justice to prevail.
We used to have an administration that was competent and now we do again.

 

[Valletta]

I heard that this can happen, knowledgeable and dedicated people can anticipate a need before it becomes a “need” and clear the way for Justice to prevail.
We used to have an administration that was competent and now we do again.

Over a hundred thousand more people have already died because of these people than if Trump were in office! Afghanistan, the Ukrainian War, the Chinese drugs pouring into our country, more immigrants dying, not to mention the sex trafficking and out of control crime and inflation.

 

[Valletta]

What Pres. Biden decided to do was to waive executive privilege on certain White House documents created by the previous administration related to the challenges to the election results, the Ellipse rally, etc. when access was requested by the Jan-6 Committee to those documents in the National Archives.

There never has been a president before who has tried to exempt all executive privilege from a previous president. It effectively destroys the concept.

 

[Pommer]

Over a hundred thousand more people have already died because of these people than if Trump were in office! Afghanistan, the Ukrainian War, the Chinese drugs pouring into our country, more immigrants dying, not to mention the sex trafficking and out of control crime and inflation.

Does constantly complaining about President Biden comfort you somehow?

 

[Yttrium]

Over a hundred thousand more people have already died because of these people than if Trump were in office! Afghanistan, the Ukrainian War, the Chinese drugs pouring into our country, more immigrants dying, not to mention the sex trafficking and out of control crime and inflation.

Well, that's just ridiculous. Because of Trump's mishandling of COVID-19, many more people died than would have if any other Republican or Democrat 2016 candidate had been in office.

 

[Hans Blaster]

There never has been a president before who has tried to exempt all executive privilege from a previous president. It effectively destroys the concept.

But he didn't. He only declined to invoke executive privilege to the documents wanted by the Jan 6 Committee. If you have some evidence that Biden waved *all* executive privilege related to the Trump Administration for *all* documents about *all* topics, now would be the time to post it. (and he definitely *could* as the privilege belongs to the office, not the person)

 

[Pommer]

There never has been a president before who has tried to exempt all executive privilege from a previous president. It effectively destroys the concept.

These are right-wing talking-points.
Okay, I’m game…
There hasn’t been a need for a present Administration to revoke the executive-privilege before President Trump left the Office.
Yes, it’s unprecedented.

And it doesn’t destroy the concept, it’s for this one instance when there is a high probability that high crimes and misdemeanors will be uncovered which are not subject to privilege at all.