Biden is weighing whether to continue in the race

[probinson]

President Biden has told a key ally that he knows he may not be able to salvage his candidacy if he cannot convince the public in the coming days that he is up for the job after a disastrous debate performance last week.​

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The conversation is the first indication to become public that the president is seriously considering whether he can recover after a devastating performance on the debate stage in Atlanta on Thursday. Concerns are mounting about his viability as a candidate and whether he could serve as president for another four years.​

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Biden Tells Allies He Knows He Has Only Days to Salvage Candidacy

The president’s conversations are the first indication that he is seriously considering whether he can recover after a devastating debate performance. The White House said he had not spoken about leaving the race.

www.nytimes.com

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[Always in His Presence]

Joe Biden might be asked by 25 House Democrats to step down

Only one sitting Democratic House member has explicitly asked for Biden to exit the race so far.

www.newsweek.com

 

[probinson]

5 minutes into the debate, I told those I was watching with that I expected Biden to be replaced on the ticket within 2-3 weeks. Seems I may have overestimated a bit.

 

[wing2000]

I hope he makes the right decision....for the country and for his own health.

 

[wing2000]

As an aside, the NYT, both in it's editorial pages and political coverage has been pushing Biden to step out. The Op's link is one example.
Here's another:

Like many people his age, Mr. Biden, 81, has long experienced instances in which he mangled a sentence, forgot a name or mixed up a few facts, even though he could be sharp and engaged most of the time. But in interviews, people in the room with him more recently said that the lapses seemed to be growing more frequent, more pronounced and more worrisome.

The uncomfortable occurrences were not predictable, but seemed more likely when he was in a large crowd or tired after a particularly bruising schedule. In the 23 days leading up to the debate against former President Donald J. Trump, Mr. Biden jetted across the Atlantic Ocean twice for meetings with foreign leaders and then flew from Italy to California for a splashy fund-raiser, maintaining a grueling pace that exhausted even much younger aides.

Mr. Biden was drained enough from the back-to-back trips to Europe that his team cut his planned debate preparation by two days so he could rest at his house in Rehoboth Beach, Del., before joining advisers at Camp David for rehearsals. The preparations, which took place over six days, never started before 11 a.m. and Mr. Biden was given time for an afternoon nap each day, according to a person familiar with the process.

I'm a bit puzzled why the White House would schedule two intercontinental trips - back to back. Those who have taken such trips can appreciate the impact that would have on much younger people...never mind an older person. Now, whether these increased instances were due to the trip, or there is persistent and worsening pattern is anyone's guess.

In any case, it's clear the Biden of 2024 is not the same Biden of 2020 (compare the two debates, the differences are stark).

Biden’s Lapses Are Said to Be Increasingly Common and Worrisome

People who have spent time with President Biden over the last few months or so said the lapses appear to have grown more frequent, more pronounced and, after Thursday’s debate, more worrisome.

www.nytimes.com

 

[eleos1954]

President Biden has told a key ally that he knows he may not be able to salvage his candidacy if he cannot convince the public in the coming days that he is up for the job after a disastrous debate performance last week.​

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The conversation is the first indication to become public that the president is seriously considering whether he can recover after a devastating performance on the debate stage in Atlanta on Thursday. Concerns are mounting about his viability as a candidate and whether he could serve as president for another four years.​

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Biden Tells Allies He Knows He Has Only Days to Salvage Candidacy

The president’s conversations are the first indication that he is seriously considering whether he can recover after a devastating debate performance. The White House said he had not spoken about leaving the race.

www.nytimes.com

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We do not know if this is true or false.

 

[ozso]

It's not going to any good because there's too much suspicion over him being juiced when he performs better. The only other alternative is sometimes the butter is on his noodle and other times it's not, which is just as bad. And both scenarios are guaranteed to get worse over time.

 

[rjs330]

We have been saying for a while now that Biden isn't fit for office. We were told by the media and all our leftist friends that Joe was as sharp as ever. There was nothing to see there. He had a photographic memory, he was fine, great, healthy etc etc. We have been told to ignore our eyes and ears. We have been lied to and gaslighted like mad.

Now, we'll now our leftist friends and the media is panicking over rhe situation because they know Biden is done. He has no hope of winning now. He is not capable of running the country.

My question is, who has been running the country? It's not Joe. Who has been given the power to run this show? A cou try that is beginning to fall apart with inflation and explosion of illegal immigrants, crime and the politics of division. Who's got control of the football?

What are the Democrats going to.do? The convention is coming fast and the delegates have been cast already.

You know it's bad when the media who has been extorting his virtues in a matter of 24 hours has done a 180 in their coverage on him. And now we have all his supporters, hoping he does the right thing and steps down. After spending the last years gaslighting us about how with it he is.

This is a farce and other countries know how lame he is. It's an embarrassing situation.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

We have been saying for a while now that Biden isn't fit for office. We were told by the media and all our leftist friends that Joe was as sharp as ever. There was nothing to see there. He had a photographic memory, he was fine, great, healthy etc etc. We have been told to ignore our eyes and ears. We have been lied to and gaslighted like mad.

Now, we'll now our leftist friends and the media is panicking over rhe situation because they know Biden is done. He has no hope of winning now. He is not capable of running the country.

My question is, who has been running the country? It's not Joe. Who has been given the power to run this show? A cou try that is beginning to fall apart with inflation and explosion of illegal immigrants, crime and the politics of division. Who's got control of the football?

What are the Democrats going to.do? The convention is coming fast and the delegates have been cast already.

You know it's bad when the media who has been extorting his virtues in a matter of 24 hours has done a 180 in their coverage on him. And now we have all his supporters, hoping he does the right thing and steps down. After spending the last years gaslighting us about how with it he is.

This is a farce and other countries know how lame he is. It's an embarrassing situation.

What’s the alternative again, Trump? Yeah I think I’ll go with brain dead Biden instead.

 

[probinson]

What’s the alternative again, Trump? Yeah I think I’ll go with brain dead Biden instead.

This is an interesting thought experiment. If Biden really were to be "brain dead" as you hyperbolically suggest here, then you would be voting for an unknown entity to run the country. Sure, they could trot out Biden a la Weekend at Bernie's as as figurehead, but who would actually be governing, making policies and leading our military? No one would know. But you're seemingly OK with that.

I don't like Trump or Biden. But this "I'd vote for a brain dead Biden" rhetoric is equally concerning to me.

 

[probinson]

We do not know if this is true or false.

Perhaps. But let's examine the facts.

Biden had a disastrous performance on the debate stage Thursday night. Despite attempts from the White House to downplay this as nothing more than a "bad night", more people are coming around to the realization that this is just a culmination of other signs of cognitive decline we've seen in Biden over the last few years. Biden came across as weak and frail in that debate. If in the next few days he can't present himself as a strong and vibrant leader, it's over for him. He is under intense scrutiny in this moment, and any further lapses in memory, inability to speak boldly and clearly or random wandering is going to be the final nail.

I don't believe that what we saw on Thursday night was an anomaly. There have been signs that Biden is experiencing cognitive decline for years now. And as he ages more and more each day, it only gets worse. The next few days are critical to changing that perception. Only time will tell what actually happens, but I don't think Biden can portray the image of strength and decisiveness that will be necessary to quell the fears that he is mentally unfit for office.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

This is an interesting thought experiment. If Biden really were to be "brain dead" as you hyperbolically suggest here, then you would be voting for an unknown entity to run the country. Sure, they could trot out Biden a la Weekend at Bernie's as as figurehead, but who would actually be governing, making policies and leading our military? No one would know. But you're seemingly OK with that.

That would be perfectly fine with me. I trust Biden put knowledgeable people in charge of the various agencies under the executive branch while Trump is looking to surround himself with nothing but sycophants and toadies.

I don't like Trump or Biden. But this "I'd vote for a brain dead Biden" rhetoric is equally concerning to me.

I don’t like either of our choices but I do like presidents who believe in our elections. Presidents who believe in America, not ones who bad mouth and put down the country every chance they get. My vote since 2016 has always been against Trump. So long as Trump is one of two choices, I’ll go with the other.

 

[probinson]

That would be perfectly fine with me. I trust Biden put knowledgeable people in charge of the various agencies under the executive branch while Trump is looking to surround himself with nothing but sycophants and toadies.

It would be perfectly fine with you if you don't know who is actually running the country? Alrighty then. So much for accountability.

I don’t like either of our choices but I do like presidents who believe in our elections. Presidents who believe in America, not ones who bad mouth and put down the country every chance they get. My vote since 2016 has always been against Trump. So long as Trump is one of two choices, I’ll go with the other.

Of that I have no doubt. I've said all along this election is the not-Trumps vs. the not-Bidens. Although now I suspect it will be the not Trumps vs. the not-yet-to-be-named-Democratic-candidate.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

It would be perfectly fine with you if you don't know who is actually running the country? Alrighty then. So much for accountability.

That’s what Congress is supposed to be for, oversight of the executive.

Of that I have no doubt. I've said all along this election is the not-Trumps vs. the not-Bidens. Although now I suspect it will be the not Trumps vs. the not-yet-to-be-named-Democratic-candidate.

Most likely it will be Harris. I don’t see anyone else jumping this late into the race.

 

[NxNW]

A cou try that is beginning to fall apart with inflation and explosion of illegal immigrants, crime and the politics of division.

Which cou try is that?

You know it's bad when the media who has been extorting his virtues in a matter of 24 hours has done a 180 in their coverage on him.

Yes, it proves there is no such thing ss the left wing media.

It's an embarrassing situation.

It's even more embarrassing that the other candidate is a convicted felon and fraud.

 

[probinson]

That’s what Congress is supposed to be for, oversight of the executive.

But WHO? How can you oversee the executive if you don't even know where the orders originate from?

Most likely it will be Harris. I don’t see anyone else jumping this late into the race.

Harris is polling slightly better than Biden right now, but that's largely because of the "not-Trump" factor we were just discussing.

 

[rjs330]

What’s the alternative again, Trump? Yeah I think I’ll go with brain dead Biden instead.

Your entitled to feel that way. Just don't urinate on everyone else and say it's raining.

 

[rjs330]

trust Biden put knowledgeable people in charge of the various agencies under the executive branch while Trump is looking to surround himself with nothing but sycophants and toadies.

Biden wouldn't know a knowledgeable person from a hole in the ground. He can't even figure out how to get off a stage. And who exactly are these people on his staff who challenging him and calling him out on his bad ideas?

who bad mouth and put down the country every chance they get.

Then what on earth are you supporting Biden for?

 

[rjs330]

Yes, it proves there is no such thing ss the left wing media.

No all.it proves is the left wing media is in a panic because then can no longer offer excuses for him and his performance was so bad that they now realize he can't win. They want Democrats to win and they are really concerned now. They can't hide him anymore.

 

[rjs330]

even more embarrassing that the other candidate is a convicted felon and fraud.

People know good and well this was a political prosecution.