Biden can't even talk.

mindfulzen said:

Well, Bernie is clueless about european funding of universal healthcoverage, and failed to make a budget for it when he ran in 2016. And his supporters are utterly clueless and think it really is free. So, therefore people reject it. I has an estimated cost of 3,2 trillions a year, on a budget that is 4 trillion, so a NOGO, it would crash the economy again. And that would cause suffering for americans, and the entire world, because the world economies would hurt in the process.

That is the issue, funding and honesty. And the other DNCers just hijacked the issue to steal bernies voters and just lie to get elected. Kamala even flipflopped from being against it, to be so in favour of it, that she said she would ban private insurance, so she ran on ending private heallthcare. They cannot vote for the clueless or habitual liars, too much at stake.

And do the math. Add 25% to your salery, and isolate that figure. Then look at the american affordable care act policies that people can choose. How can it work in reality, that americans are offered so much cheaper insurances to get covered, when they haver higher median incomes, and healthcare is so costly over there. And you pay much more in a country with public healthcare without profit? If you do, uruguay is a country I am not to familiar with. Apart from checking your immigrationlaws and your housing market 10 years ago. Since the west is going into the toilet, I was shopping for a new homecountry, Uruguay was one of the options.

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No, you dont understand the healthcare situation in the US or how it could be changed.

NBB said:

Ok, i am not from usa, but i am 'shocked' Biden was elected president when he can't even piece sentences together it seems, i don't like politics much and taking sides into american ones, but if trump 'mumbled' like him he would have been roasted to nothing in main news networks, both sides are very biased.
I can have compassion for an elderly man who had brain surgery, but he is the leader of one of the biggest countries he should be more apt than this.
Sorry if there are other threads a about this.

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To me it looks like deep state wanted him. This path clearly ends in fascism so he´s not working for the people. But it´s sad for Joe as well of course.

Isabelle13 said:

To me it looks like deep state wanted him. This path clearly ends in fascism so he´s not working for the people. But it´s sad for Joe as well of course.

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The fascists are not on the Democrats side.

Trump on the other hand has/had clear fascist tendencies.

NBB said:

There is free healthcare here, its not the best medicine in the world for sure, but people gets treated, and here is mostly peaceful in the small cities, montevideo the capital has a bit of a crime problem, not to much but noticeable. Foreigners say people are friendly here, but don't expect the economy level of usa or europe we are a lot poorer. Still people don't get hungry here for the most part, and almost everyone has internet and cell phone or something and a place to live i say.

I don't know why medicine is so expensive in the usa, it just seems like greed for the most part.

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I am not shopping for a new homecountry anymore. I have pension, and it would not be possible legally to move fulltime, unless I moved to pakistan or some other arab nations. Because the pension would be cut and I would get higher taxrate, and could have lost all pension. So forced to live in poverty here, or move to pakistan or bangladesh, since they have been given special deals because pakistanis are a large voting block in our capital. I had a pension of like $2 500 when I wanted to go. Almost 3 000 now. Would that be enough? And iff part of my pension would be cut off, I would get 2 000 a month. And added tax. So I just accepted that my country want me to live in poverty here, that disabled people are supposed to live under the povertylimit here, not being able to afford a car, or participate in society whatsoever, and be happy about it.

Meds are expencive in the US because of several reasons. First of there is no federal negotiations of prices, since they have private options. We have a statemonopoly on drugs, so the US pharma have to be reasonable in negotiations with my government officials, otherwise we just make a deal with another manufacturer, and do not approve their drugs. That way they lose the market. When the federal government pays most of the drugcosts, that the statehospitals prescribe, then they think about costs. If drugs are too costly, they simply do not approve them, so if you want some expensive drugs that are promising, you simply have to fundraise and go to a country that has approved them, and get it there. Then you have to smuggle it into this country again, and you risk years in jail because it is illegal drugs here, so big risk. But if you have terminal cancer you can risk it.

Also, in the US, you have various insurance companies, that negotiate different deals with different pharma, so not a universal price. Insurance sends their customers to the drugdealer, and the drugdealer gives kickback for that to in discounts for insurancecompanies. And the doctors make deals with pharma companies, and get kickbacks for writing prescriptions with a preferred manufacturing company. This is somewhat universal in a lesser degree. Your dentist probably push some brand of toothpaste and mouthwash, right? It was exposed here that the dentists got some expensive cruises from colgate or something, for pushing it on their clients. My dentist push solidox

NBB said:

Ok, i am not from usa, but i am 'shocked' Biden was elected president when he can't even piece sentences together it seems, i don't like politics much and taking sides into american ones, but if trump 'mumbled' like him he would have been roasted to nothing in main news networks, both sides are very biased.
I can have compassion for an elderly man who had brain surgery, but he is the leader of one of the biggest countries he should be more apt than this.
Sorry if there are other threads a about this.

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1. Biden has his stumbles, but would rank 2nd out of our last 4 presidents in his ability to speak clearly

2. You may have missed our last president and all of his word salads. Here is a transcript from one of his debates. Note, this is from our national debates where tens of millions saw it, and he still got elected (although he lost the popular vote):

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As far as the cyber, I agree to parts of what Secretary Clinton said. We should be better than anybody else, and perhaps we’re not. I don’t think anybody knows that it was Russia that broke into the DNC. She’s saying Russia, Russia, Russia—I don't, maybe it was. I mean, it could be Russia, but it could also be China. It could also be lots of other people. It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, okay?

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We came in with the Internet. We came up with the Internet. And I think Secretary Clinton and myself would agree very much, when you look at what ISIS is doing with the Internet, they’re beating us at our own game. ISIS.

So we had to get very, very tough on cyber and cyber warfare. It is a huge problem. I have a son—he’s 10 years old. He has computers. He is so good with these computers. It’s unbelievable. The security aspect of cyber is very, very tough. And maybe, it's hardly doable. But I will say, we are not doing the job we should be doing. But that’s true throughout our whole governmental society. We have so many things that we have to do better, Lester. And certainly cyber is one of them."

Kentonio said:

Who exactly is forcing you to take drugs?

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Move past the linguistics, are people not pushed to take vaccines? "Kindly" pressured if you will, that is force, get past it. And as a french person you know very well about force. You have riots because your fascist dictator force people to get the vaccine. But this is sort of normal in france, all of your presidents end up being hated by 80% of the people, and always caught for corruption, or abusing funds, abusing power, etc. No wonder you have that great tradition of throwing cakes and flour in the face of your presidents. And now latest, someone slapping macron at a failed press stunt. Fix your country, it is a mess. Free yourselves. Drop president, and govern as the rest of europe, prime minister and parliment only.

Vylo said:

1. Biden has his stumbles, but would rank 2nd out of our last 4 presidents in his ability to speak clearly

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"Stumbles," huh? Is that what it is when he wanders around the stage, not knowing where he is, when he confuses President Bush with President Trump, when he cannot remember his own appointed officials' names, and when he has to take long pauses in the middle of a speech in order to try to remember what he was saying? I "get" that the more appropriate word for all of this might be a medical term, but "stumbles" isn't the best alternative.

NBB said:

Ok, i am not from usa, but i am 'shocked' Biden was elected president when he can't even piece sentences together it seems, i don't like politics much and taking sides into american ones, but if trump 'mumbled' like him he would have been roasted to nothing in main news networks, both sides are very biased.
I can have compassion for an elderly man who had brain surgery, but he is the leader of one of the biggest countries he should be more apt than this.
Sorry if there are other threads a about this.

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The idea in his political party was to have a candidate who seemed experienced and moderate, based upon past performance, and who was okay with letting his advisors make all the key decisions. Then they hid Biden from view most of the time during the election campaign season and relied upon TV news and commentators to drive his candidacy. And they changed the election laws--as has been much discussed on these forums. It all worked.

He may wind up going down in history somewhat as Paul von Hindenburg has.
Paul von Hindenburg - Wikipedia

mindfulzen said:

You do not truly believe he chose Kamala, come on man. Why would he choose the least liked one, that called him an old racist in the debates, and insinuated that he was a sexist and perhaps more? She used the Tara story good against him. She framed him as a racist regarding the bussing in the 60s. He was told who he had to appoint. He only ran in the first place because the crop was so poor, Kamala and other puppets would not be able to win over Bernie. He ran to save the party from the people.

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Abe Lincoln placed several of his political foes in his Administration because he felt them to be good people for the necessary jobs.
Maybe Biden followed suit?

NBB said:

See 4:40
Just found this video. He says the same some other posters have said.
You can say all you want about Shapiro, but i think he makes sense a lot of times
This was before the election.

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Shapiro is a hack of the highest degree. If you want to be taken seriously, never source him.

NBB said:

Why? he is not like Alex Jones or something he speak sense, sure you can not agree with him but i think he is objective most the time.

I actually don't like how people twist reality to fit for their preferences actually if someone in the left or right makes sense i agree with them, i'm not going to take sides.

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He is not objective at all, he's barely a step above alex jones. Simply a right wing hack that speaks in ridiculous hypotheticals and obsesses over AOC.

Shapiro is just a shallow hack, even Joe Rogan can rout him. He's gotten absolutely destroyed by people on his own side of politics. He holds conviction, he just wants to profit off of conservative fear.

Vylo said:

Shapiro is a hack of the highest degree. If you want to be taken seriously, never source him.

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Train wreck of an interview with the very right leaning Andrew Neil of the BBC. Great entertainment.

I think the Democrats will puppet his cadaver before they let him quit.