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Biblical Timeline leading up to the end

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Can you please explain what you mean?
All I can do is try. Christ must show you directly.

Rev.2

  1. [27] And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.
Christ was made of quick understanding in The Fear of The Lord as well.

Isa.11
  1. [3] And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
Rom.8
  1. [29] For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Christ is the firstborn and all of His Brethren must go through similar training.

Since you have experienced The Fear of The Lord, you have been greatly blessed. Your actions seem to be right on mission possibly without having to go through some of what I’ve had to endure.
 
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The first resurrection is the new birth, completed on the last day in the resurrection of believers. Then followed by the rapture. And then the resurrection of the damned. The 1000 years in Revelation 20 is a symbol for Satan's binding and not for the kingdom. Satan attacks the kingdom when loosed.
 
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However, Revelations 2:27 happened already to Christ and must happen to all of His disciples.
As the body of Christ who always rules the nations with a rod of iron from heaven, we share in this.
 
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The problem is, you cannot support any of your claims with direct quotes from scripture. I support everything I said with direct quotes.
 
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The Pharisees would agree with you. They operated at the same level of understanding as any Premillennialist or Dispensationalist does today.
 
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Hello TS.
I just reread your post and it is actually a very well written post and I agree with it.
I admit I am not as good at articulating my thoughts into writing as a lot of members here do and and I have to say you do it very well.

I believe we just talk past each other a lot of times, but like I said, your analogy of the OC People and NC people, OC City and NC City is, IMHO, is spot on.

Romans 9:
32 wherefore? because -- not by faith, but as by works of law; for they did stumble at the stone of stumbling,
33 according as it hath been written, 'Lo, I place in Sion a stone of stumbling and a rock of offence; and every one who is believing thereon shall not be ashamed.'

1Corinthians 3:12
and if any one doth build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, straw

2Corinthians 3:7
and if the ministration of the death, in letters, engraved in stones, came in glory, so that the sons of Israel were not able to look stedfastly to the face of Moses, because of the glory of his face -- which was being made useless,

Peter gives a good summation here:
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1 Peter 2
4 to whom coming -- a living stone -- by men, indeed, having been disapproved of, but with God choice, precious,
5 and ye yourselves, as living stones, are built up, a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.
6 Wherefore, also, it is contained in the Writing: 'behold! I lay in Zion a chief corner-stone, choice, precious, and he who is believing on him may not be put to shame;'
7 to you, then, who are believing is the preciousness; and to the unbelieving, a stone that the builders disapproved of, this one did become for the head of a corner,
8 and a stone of stumbling and a rock of offence -- who are stumbling at the word, being unbelieving, -- to which also they were set;
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Revelation 18:16
and saying, Woe, woe, the great City, that was arrayed with fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and gilded in gold, and precious stone, and pearls -- because in one hour so much riches were made waste!

Revelation 21:11
11 having the glory of God, and her light is like a stone most precious, as a jasper stone clear as crystal,
19 and the foundations of the wall of the City with every precious stone have been adorned;
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A member created an excellent thread earlier that shed a lot of spiritual light on the analogy of "stones" for those interested

New House New Stones Here is a good vid on the "stones crying out"

Matthew 3:9
"And no ye should be thinking to say in yourselves 'a Father we are having, Abraham'. For I am saying unto ye, that is able the God out of these stones to raise-up children to Abraham. [Luke 3:8/ Luke 16:24]
Luke 19

40 and answering He said to them, “I am saying to ye that if ever these shall be being silent, the stones shall be crying out
41 And as He nears, beholding the City, and He laments on Her,

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The Pharisees would agree with you. They operated at the same level of understanding as any Premillennialist or Dispensationalist does today.
This is a ridiculous and unwarranted post.
Quite the lame jab at premillennialist and dispensationalist.
 
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The Pharisees would agree with you. They operated at the same level of understanding as any Premillennialist or Dispensationalist does today.

I just love it when Jesus gets right up in their faces...........

Matthew 21
44 He who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces, but he on whom it falls will be crushed.”
45 When the chief priests and Pharisees heard Jesus’ parables, they knew He was speaking about them.

Luke 20:19
And the chief priests and the scribes the same hour sought to lay hands on him; and they feared the people: for they perceived that he had spoken this parable against them.

Luke 16

14 And also the Pharisees, being lovers of money, were hearing all these things, and were deriding him,
15 and he said to them, 'Ye are those declaring yourselves righteous before men, but God doth know your hearts; because that which among men is high, is abomination before God;
19 'And -- a certain man was rich, and was clothed in purple and fine linen, making merry sumptuously every day,

 
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TribulationSigns said:
Once again, incorrect. In my opinion....
There. I fixed it for you. You're welcome. It's no trouble. I don't mind helping you out.
Nice ........
Here is how Chuck would reply ehehe..........

 
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What does that have to do with this?
Dave, you had written that the Kingdom of God does not arrive physically, but is a spiritual Kingdom.

Which that there will be al kingdom of God in Daniel 2 replacing the kingdoms in the statue , which it says in the text of Daniel 2....


42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.


So I want to know from you, who are the ten kings (the ten toes) were back at the time the spiritual Kingdom of God was established (you saying there will be only a spiritual Kingdom of God - and no future physical Kingdom of God) ?
 
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Jesus interprets this for us as a spiritual kingdom. He never mentions a physical kingdom. If you do not consider his position, you add to Revelation.
 
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Just to let you and others know there is a thread on that topic

Acts 1:6 Restore Kingdom to Israel/10 KINGS One Mind Reve 17

Acts 1:6
The-ones indeed then coming together, asked Him saying,
`Lord! if in to-the time, this, you are restoring the Kingdom to the Israel?'

Revelation 17:
12 And the ten horns which you saw, ten kings are, who any a Kingdom not-yet received, but authority as kings, one hour they are receiving with the wild beast,
 
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This is a ridiculous and unwarranted post.
Quite the lame jab at premillennialist and dispensationalist.
They believe on the same level as the Pharisees concerning the kingdom.
 
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Jesus interprets this for us as a spiritual kingdom. He never mentions a physical kingdom. If you do not consider his position, you add to Revelation.
Where did Jesus identify who the ten kings were by their name?

We know who the twelve disciples were by their name. Because that is fulfilled. The ten kings have not been fulfilled - to bring in the physical Kingdom of God. But you are saying there will be no physical Kingdom of God.

So prove your point by naming who the ten kings were.
 
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In Daniel, the ten kings are ten kingdoms or dynasties; the several beasts which he saw in vision, were not the symbols of particular men, but of nations. When therefore the Apostle speaks of Antichrist as “the man of sin,” and “the son of perdition,” it is perfectly consistent with Scriptural usage to understand him to refer to an order of men, or to an institution. (2.) The work assigned to Antichrist in prophecy, extends over far too long a period to be accomplished by one man. (3.) Those who insist that the antichrist here predicted, is an individual man, are forced to admit that what is said in 2 Thessalonians 2:7 (“He who now letteth, will let, until he be taken out of the way”) is to be understood of a power. It is generally understood of the Roman power.

Hodge, C. (1997). Systematic theology (Vol. 3, pp. 814–815). Oak Harbor, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
 
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Good site:
There are a plethora of the form of the greek root word G4130.

I like to see where each form is used in Revelation to better harmonize the NT to the OT.

Here are a few of the words:

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

4130. pletho play'-tho, a prolonged form of a primary pleo pleh'-o
(which appears only as an alternate in certain tenses and in the reduplicated form pimplemi) to "fill" (literally or figuratively (imbue, influence, supply)); specially, to fulfil (time):--accomplish, full (...come), furnish.

4137. pleroo play-ro'-o from 4134; to make replete, i.e. (literally) to cram (a net), level up (a hollow), or (figuratively) to furnish (or imbue, diffuse, influence), satisfy, execute (an office), finish (a period or task), verify (or coincide with a prediction), etc.:--accomplish, X after, (be) complete, end, expire, fill (up), fulfil, (be, make) full (come), fully preach, perfect, supply.
4134. pleres play'-race from 4130; replete, or covered over; by analogy, complete:--full.

Mat 2:15
and he was there till the death of Herod, that it might be fulfilled<4137> that was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying, 'Out of Egypt I did call My Son.'
Mat 2:17
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,

Luke 4:
17 the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to Him. Unrolling it, He found the place where it was written:
21 and He began by saying,
“Today this Scripture is fulfilled<4137> in your hearing.”

Used 2 times in Revelation

Rev 3:2
become watching, and strengthen the rest of the things that are about to die, for I have not found thy works fulfilled before God.

Rev 6:11
and there was given to each one white robes, and it was said to them that they may rest themselves yet a little time, till may be fulfilled also their fellow-servants and their brethren, who are about to be killed -- even as they.
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This form is used mainly in Luke and only in Acts outside of the Gospels [none in Revelation]

"DAYS OF VENGEANCE" Isaiah 61:2 and Luke 21:22 Revelation

Luke 21
22 That days of vengeance these are, of the to be fulfilled<4130> all the having been written
23 “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days!
For there will be great Distress in the land and Wrath<3709> upon this people.

Last time used

Act 19:29

and the whole City was filled<4130> with confusion, they rushed also with one accord into the theatre, having caught Gaius and Aristarchus, Macedonians, Paul's fellow-travellers.
 
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Why are you talking about the Antichrist?

I am asking you to name the kings that Daniel 2 says will be in existence when God brings His everlasting kingdom here to earth. You say the everlasting kingdom is a spiritual kingdom only; that there will not be a physical Kingdom of God. So name who the kings were since you claim this has already happened.

Their names.

I can't give their names - because it hasn't happen yet, that God has not setup His everlasting physical Kingdom here on earth yet.



42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.

43 And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.

44 And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
 
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You are trying to limit the interpretation to the Dispensational view. I gave the Reformed view which is much older.
 
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