Biblical Marriage

[Joe Green]

It seems to be slowly developing in the minds of the people that when a man who has no living wife marries a woman with a husband that that man will be free to divorce this woman and be free to marry another. The man is guilty of fornication and may marry another but the woman is bound to her first companion. -Church of Prophecy

 

[Rajni]

It seems to be slowly developing in the minds of the people that when a man who has no living wife marries a woman with a husband that that man will be free to divorce this woman and be free to marry another. The man is guilty of fornication and may marry another but the woman is bound to her first companion. -Church of Prophecy

What is this "Church of Prophecy"? Never heard of it.



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[joshua 1 9]

the woman is bound to her first companion.

There are lots of men in the Bible with multiple wives. Solomon had 700 wives. David a man after God's own heart, had 8 wives. He got into trouble with Bathsheba because she had a husband. There are no women in the Bible with multiple living husbands other then Jezebel and Herold were it is clear that for a man to take another mans wife is adultery. This is the reason that John the Baptist lost his head.

"For Herod himself had ordered that John be arrested and bound and imprisoned, on account of his brother Philip’s wife Herodias, whom Herod had married. For John had been telling Herod, “It is not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife!" Mark 16:17,18

 

[Dave-W]

What is this "Church of Prophecy"? Never heard of it.

Neither have I; but if Joe Green is any indication, they have some serious interpretive problems.

 

[Verv]

Polygamy was a common practice in the Middle Eastern lands for millenia. Hell, polygamy was common practice in much of the world besides Europe. The Macedonian & Germanic nobilitiy did it, I know, but that was in pre-Christian times.

Polygamy has some very practical purposes for societies that are in rough trades. The Hebrews had a very developed society, yes, but a significant amount were herders still, and herding life has a very high mortality and lots of clan & tribal in-fighting. Stephen Pinker spoke about this precise phenomena in his book Better Angels of Our Nature. ...

But Christianity does not allow for polygamy by any mainline interpretation and I am not even sure how it could otherwise be justified. The New Covenant does not allow for this practice.

... I personally believe that men and women remarrying after the death of a spouse, or after a divorce due to infidelity, are entirely vindicated in their decisions. I also do not feel it is so much my business to hold a magnifying glass to other people's marriages, though so... Let's just see where this thread goes.

 

[Joe Green]

There are lots of men in the Bible with multiple wives. Solomon had 700 wives. David a man after God's own heart, had 8 wives. He got into trouble with Bathsheba because she had a husband. There are no women in the Bible with multiple living husbands other then Jezebel and Herold were it is clear that for a man to take another mans wife is adultery. This is the reason that John the Baptist lost his head.

"For Herod himself had ordered that John be arrested and bound and imprisoned, on account of his brother Philip’s wife Herodias, whom Herod had married. For John had been telling Herod, “It is not lawful for you to have your brother’s wife!" Mark 16:17,18

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We can not use, Old Testament for covenant marriages.We now live under grace.

 

[joshua 1 9]

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We can not use, Old Testament for covenant marriages.We now live under grace.

"the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ" Gal3:24

 

[Dave-W]

We can not use, Old Testament for covenant marriages.We now live under grace.

Of course you can. A covenant is still a covenant. That did not change.

And did not Paul say that everything back then was for an example to us?

1 Corinthians 10:11 Now these things happened to them as an example, and they were written for our instruction, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

And that ALL scripture is good for doctrine?

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;

(here is a hint: the ONLY scripture in existence when he wrote this was the OT)

 

[Joe Green]

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We can not use, Old Testament for covenant marriages.We now live under grace.

John the Baptist,lost his head for telling a relative of his he was living with the wrong companion.
However, John the Baptist, was the person who baptized Jesus.

 

[Joe Green]

"the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ" Gal3:24

The law is used to convict us of our sins. Those of us who now have been convicted,and have repented under grace.

 

[Dave-W]

John the Baptist,lost his head for telling a relative of his he was living with the wrong companion.

Where do you get that John the Immerser was related in any way to the Herod family?
He was Jesus' cousin, son of Mary's aunt Elizabeth.

 

[Dave-W]

The law is used to convict us of our sins.

That is one of the purposes of the law, but certainly not the ONLY one.

Those of us who now have been convicted,and have repented under grace.

If you are a Gentile, you NEVER EVER were under the Law.

Joe - is all this your own stuff; or is your church teaching you all this mess?

 

[Dave-W]

"the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ" Gal3:24

Indeed.

My congregational leader made a comment on this verse. When he was in school he had a very hard time with math and fell behind, so his parents hired a tutor. (school master)

After a few months he got caught up. His tutor did not die or just go away. He was still at it years later teaching more students how to do math. And he did not stop using the instructions just because he passed a test and graduated to the next grade.

 

[Inkfingers]

I personally believe that men and women remarrying after the death of a spouse, or after a divorce due to infidelity, are entirely vindicated in their decisions.

I agree.

Jesus specifically stipulates that when your spouse is an adulterer divorce and remarriage do not make you one. It is the only exclusion he allows (other than after widowhood of course).

 

[com7fy8]

"let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband," our Apostle Paul says, in 1 Corinthians 7:2.

"let each one of you in particular so love his own wife" (in Ephesians 5:33)

Paul does not say to love "wives", but one's "wife".

 

[Joe Green]

The law is used to convict us of our sins. Those of us who now have been convicted,and have repented under grace.

 

[Joe Green]

I agree.

Jesus specifically stipulates that when your spouse is an adulterer divorce and remarriage do not make you one. It is the only exclusion he allows (other than after widowhood of course).

Where can you find in the, New Teastament that infidelity is grounds for divorce and remarriage?

 

[Joe Green]

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Where in the , New Testament can you find that infidelity is grounds for divorce & remarriage?

 

[Inkfingers]

Where can you find in the, New Testament that infidelity is grounds for divorce and remarriage?

"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." (Matthew 19:9)

It explicitly forbids divorce and remarriage EXCEPT when the spouse was adulterous.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Jesus specifically stipulates that when your spouse is an adulterer divorce and remarriage do not make you one.

Under the law adultery is punished by death. Your spouse would then be dead and you would be free to remarry just as David married Abigail when her husband died. She remained a good wife as long as her husband was alive, even though he was a worthless, drunken husband.

If we are married to a worthless drunk is that reason for divorce?