Biblical Killing

[talkingmonkey]

This will stir the shiza, but seriously...

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
(Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
(Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
(Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets
(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
(Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy
(Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets
(Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
(Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die
(Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
(Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
(Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

Kill Brats
(2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

God Kills the Curious
(1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)

Killed by a Lion
(1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

Killing the Good Samaritan
(2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)

Kill Sons of Sinners
(Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children
(Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children
(Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

God Kills all the First Born of Egypt
(Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

Kill Old Men and Young Women
(Jeremiah 51:20-26)

 

[talkingmonkey]

AND MORE!!!

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners
(Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

More Rape and Baby Killing
Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

More of Samson's Murders
(Judges 15:14-15 NAB)

Peter Kills Two People
(Acts 5:1-11 NLT)

Mass Murder
(1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

You Have to Kill
(Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)

The Danites Kill the Next Town
(Joshua 19:47 NAB)

God Kills Some More
(Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)

God Promises More Killing
(Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)

The Angel of Death
(Exodus 23:23 NAB)

Destruction of Ai
(Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)

Killing at Jericho
(Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)

God Kills an Extended Family
(1 Kings 14:9-16 NLT)

Mass Murder
(Judges 20:48 NAB)

The Angel of Death
(2 Kings 19:35 NAB)

Kill Your Neighbors
(Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

Kill the Family of Sinners
(Joshua 7:19-26 Webster's Bible)

Kill Followers of Other Religions
(Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)

Murder
(1 Kings 18:36-40 NLT)

Kill All of Babylon
(Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

Micah Kills a Whole Town
(Judges 18:27-29 NLT) (Note that God approves of this slaughter in verse 6.)

Now that's just killing and murder. There are also numerous quotes to do with slavery, rape, pillaging, plundering, self-mutilation, self-destruction...and more!

These quotes were sourced from www.evilbible.com

 

[FadingWhispers3]

It's called moral relativism. It's not ok to kill... unless God kills or orders it. Then it's ok to kill.

 

[Harpuia]

AND MORE!!!

God Will Kill the Children of Sinners
(Leviticus 26:21-22 NLT)

More Rape and Baby Killing
Isaiah 13:15-18 NLT)

More of Samson's Murders
(Judges 15:14-15 NAB)

Peter Kills Two People
(Acts 5:1-11 NLT)

Mass Murder
(1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

You Have to Kill
(Jeremiah 48:10 NAB)

The Danites Kill the Next Town
(Joshua 19:47 NAB)

God Kills Some More
(Jeremiah 15:1-4 NLT)

God Promises More Killing
(Ezekiel 35:7-9 NLT)

The Angel of Death
(Exodus 23:23 NAB)

Destruction of Ai
(Joshua 8:1-29 NLT)

Killing at Jericho
(Joshua 6:20-21 NLT)

God Kills an Extended Family
(1 Kings 14:9-16 NLT)

Mass Murder
(Judges 20:48 NAB)

The Angel of Death
(2 Kings 19:35 NAB)

Kill Your Neighbors
(Exodus 32:26-29 NLT)

Kill the Family of Sinners
(Joshua 7:19-26 Webster's Bible)

Kill Followers of Other Religions
(Numbers 25:1-9 NLT)

Murder
(1 Kings 18:36-40 NLT)

Kill All of Babylon
(Jeremiah 50:21-22 NLT)

Micah Kills a Whole Town
(Judges 18:27-29 NLT) (Note that God approves of this slaughter in verse 6.)

Now that's just killing and murder. There are also numerous quotes to do with slavery, rape, pillaging, plundering, self-mutilation, self-destruction...and more!

These quotes were sourced from www.evilbible.com

Amazing...

Every verse is in the OT...

 

[Ian373]

Um, do bibles no longer come with an Old Testament?

A few of those verses may found in the few pages immediately before and after "Thou shalt not kill" is mentioned as a Commandment. So God issues conflicting orders? Or are these to be taken as exceptions to the Commandments?

I like the one about God allowing bratty adolescents to be taken by their parents to the city gates and stoned to death. My 14-yr old neighbor is a bit of a pain. I wonder if I can talk his mom into accepting that particular exception from God.

 

[NPH]

Amazing...

Every verse is in the OT...

When did Acts and Romans get moved to the OT?

 

[Verv]

The Acts and Romans passages are strange.

The two people lied to God and died inexplicably; perhaps of total shame, perhaps being struck down for lying to God. It is not explained. However, no command is given anywhere to kill someone or to attack someone, so how is this Peter murdering people?

The Romans passage is merely one that explains that homosexuality is a grave sin amongst others and thos who do it go to hell.

Now, with the OT, it must be put into the context of 1400 BC, a tribe surrounded by much larger Kingdoms who want to see their death; a people who are at the tip of the spear, being put through the grinder of history.

OT law was entirely overturned by Christ and is no longer relevant; it was relevant in a different time and era, an era of much cruelty.

 

[Blayz]

Now, with the OT, it must be put into the context of 1400 BC, a tribe surrounded by much larger Kingdoms who want to see their death; a people who are at the tip of the spear, being put through the grinder of history.

One of the more amusing elements of apologetics is this whole "put in context" line. It usually means "put in just enough context for it to say what I want it to say"

For instance,

Lets not put Corinthians in the context of Paul writing to a troubled church whose members are being tempted by pagan religions. lets not put in context that despite the fact Greek has a word for homosexual, Paul used "arsenkotai", a completely made up word. Lets just read that famous passage in Cor as "God hates homosexuals"..oh, and we can throw in Lev 21 as well, with no context whatsoever, 'cause it says what I want it to say too.

"In context". Yeah. Right.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Kill False Prophets
(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

This one I could go for. all the self appointed prophets around who tell you they speak with the inerrancy of God, when they are, in fact, speaking out of their **** could use some serious regulation!

 

[Verv]

One of the more amusing elements of apologetics is this whole "put in context" line. It usually means "put in just enough context for it to say what I want it to say"

For instance,

Lets not put Corinthians in the context of Paul writing to a troubled church whose members are being tempted by pagan religions. lets not put in context that despite the fact Greek has a word for homosexual, Paul used "arsenkotai", a completely made up word. Lets just read that famous passage in Cor as "God hates homosexuals"..oh, and we can throw in Lev 21 as well, with no context whatsoever, 'cause it says what I want it to say too.

"In context". Yeah. Right.

I was unaware that you were an expert on 1st century AD Greek and its uses. You must be one of a few dozen scholars assembling a puzzle missing more than a few pieces.

Please enlighten me as to the meaning...

One thing is pretty clear about Biblical interpretation: Christians put things in the context of the whole Gospel while anti-Christians set the passages entirely by themselves and interpret them along the most strict lines to denounce them.

It's dishonest and lacks any intellectual integrity.

 

[RangerJoe]

One of the more amusing elements of apologetics is this whole "put in context" line. It usually means "put in just enough context for it to say what I want it to say"

For instance,

Lets not put Corinthians in the context of Paul writing to a troubled church whose members are being tempted by pagan religions. lets not put in context that despite the fact Greek has a word for homosexual, Paul used "arsenkotai", a completely made up word. Lets just read that famous passage in Cor as "God hates homosexuals"..oh, and we can throw in Lev 21 as well, with no context whatsoever, 'cause it says what I want it to say too.

"In context". Yeah. Right.

With all the people spouting the OT stuff to repress the homosexuals you'd think I'd see more all cotton garments and hear of people being stoned to death. At the very least there wouldn't be a wait to get a seat at Red Lobster and I'd see lots of big bushy beards and long hair.

Why pick the cherries when you can just cut down the tree?

 

[Harpuia]

With all the people spouting the OT stuff to repress the homosexuals you'd think I'd see more all cotton garments and hear of people being stoned to death. At the very least there wouldn't be a wait to get a seat at Red Lobster and I'd see lots of big bushy beards and long hair.

Why pick the cherries when you can just cut down the tree?

Bleh, forgot about the Acts and Romans verses...

And you're talking to someone here who really wouldn't mind if you guys get married.

You know, I don't mind being thrown into a package on the opposing side, but it's usually the Churchies who do this to me, not the atheists.

 

[MikeMcK]

Um, do bibles no longer come with an Old Testament?

A few of those verses may found in the few pages immediately before and after "Thou shalt not kill" is mentioned as a Commandment.

Just to clarify, the commandment is "thou shalt do no murder", not "thou shalt not kill".

I like the one about God allowing bratty adolescents to be taken by their parents to the city gates and stoned to death. My 14-yr old neighbor is a bit of a pain. I wonder if I can talk his mom into accepting that particular exception from God.

Actually, that isn't what it says at all.

 

[Fin1234]

Just for those who are crying "it's not meant to be taken literrally!" or "it's out of context!".

I'd question the value of a holy book if it is not suppossed to be taken litterally I mean the fact that the sabbath day is holy. Does that mean if I take that in a non literal sense, I can sin all I want monday to saturday?

Question being where does literal end and poetic begin? The bible as far as I am told is " a collection of 100% true historical accounts".

It's fairly shallow as holy books go, if it can be mistranslated and misinterpretted that much.

 

[Blayz]

I was unaware that you were an expert on 1st century AD Greek and its uses. You must be one of a few dozen scholars assembling a puzzle missing more than a few pieces.

Doesn't take an expert to know that arsenkotai is a made up word. I have no idea why Paul used it or what it actually means. I do know that some arbitrary level of "context" to justify hatred of homosexuals is not justified.

One thing is pretty clear about Biblical interpretation: Christians put things in the context of the whole Gospel while anti-Christians set the passages entirely by themselves and interpret them along the most strict lines to denounce them.

It's dishonest and lacks any intellectual integrity.

In fact the exact opposite is true. Its the fundies that spout Leviticus and only put it in the context of "fulfilled law" when it says something stupid (like being stoned for cursing your father, or wearing 2 kinds of threads).


It is the fundies who refuse to put Paul's letter to the Corinthians in the context of it being a letter to the Corinthians.

I will, however agree that these biblical apologeticists are indeed dishonest and lacking any intellectual integrity.

 

[keith99]

Um, do bibles no longer come with an Old Testament?

A few of those verses may found in the few pages immediately before and after "Thou shalt not kill" is mentioned as a Commandment. So God issues conflicting orders? Or are these to be taken as exceptions to the Commandments?

I like the one about God allowing bratty adolescents to be taken by their parents to the city gates and stoned to death. My 14-yr old neighbor is a bit of a pain. I wonder if I can talk his mom into accepting that particular exception from God.

The commandment is best translated as "Thou shalt noit murder". Very different thing (and still reflected in legal distinctions today in the secular law).

As to taking your brat to the city gates: In the cultural context there is a safeguard here, as there is in much of the Jewish Law. The city gates is a VERY public place. What is done there is for all to see and talk about. The spoken declaration is about the kid, but the unspoken part is 'This is out kid who we can not control, we are complete failures as parents...'. Not much today, but back then perhaps even an implication that teh parents making the declaration are not to be trusted either. Also note that at the time one could not just move to a new city, anyone moving would face distrust for a long long time.

A question for those who have studied history. Does anyone know of a recorde instance of a child ever being taken to the gates of the city and stoned?

 

[NPH]

Bleh, forgot about the Acts and Romans verses...

And you're talking to someone here who really wouldn't mind if you guys get married.

You know, I don't mind being thrown into a package on the opposing side, but it's usually the Churchies who do this to me, not the atheists.

My apologies Harp, I should have had a smiley on my post about the acts and romans passages lol. I thought it more humorous that you totally missed those than anything.

 

[BigBadWlf]

This will stir the shiza, but seriously...

Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

Kill Witches
(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
(Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
(Exodus 21:15 NAB)

Death for Cursing Parents
(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
(Leviticus 20:9 NLT)

Death for Adultery
(Leviticus 20:10 NLT)

Death for Fornication
(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)

Death to Followers of Other Religions
(Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets
(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
(Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
(Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

Kill Followers of Other Religions.
(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
(Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy
(Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

Kill False Prophets
(Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
(Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)

Infidels and Gays Should Die
(Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

Kill Anyone who Approaches the Tabernacle
(Numbers 1:48-51 NLT)

Kill People for Working on the Sabbath
(Exodus 31:12-15 NLT)

Kill Brats
(2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

God Kills the Curious
(1Samuel 6:19-20 ASV)

Killed by a Lion
(1 Kings 20:35-36 NLT)

Killing the Good Samaritan
(2 Samuel 6:3-7 NAB)

Kill Sons of Sinners
(Isaiah 14:21 NAB)

God Will Kill Children
(Hosea 9:11-16 NLT)

Kill Men, Women, and Children
(Ezekiel 9:5-7 NLT)

God Kills all the First Born of Egypt
(Exodus 12:29-30 NLT)

Kill Old Men and Young Women
(Jeremiah 51:20-26)

Don’t forget murdering babies

Blessed is he who takes and dashes little ones against a rock psalms 137:9



I wonder if someone will claim that picking up a baby and smashing its head against a rock is not murder…or was just a cultural thing therefore making it all right

 

[BigBadWlf]

With all the people spouting the OT stuff to repress the homosexuals you'd think I'd see more all cotton garments and hear of people being stoned to death. At the very least there wouldn't be a wait to get a seat at Red Lobster and I'd see lots of big bushy beards and long hair.

Why pick the cherries when you can just cut down the tree?

Isn’t it amazing how the people who want to misuse a few verses from the OT to justify prejudice and discrimination also want to ignore most of the rest of the OT

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Just for those who are crying "it's not meant to be taken literrally!" or "it's out of context!".

I'd question the value of a holy book if it is not suppossed to be taken litterally I mean the fact that the sabbath day is holy. Does that mean if I take that in a non literal sense, I can sin all I want monday to saturday?

Question being where does literal end and poetic begin? The bible as far as I am told is " a collection of 100% true historical accounts".

It's fairly shallow as holy books go, if it can be mistranslated and misinterpretted that much.

but remember, if you say that Genesis is not meant to be taken literally, you'll be met with howling laughter