Biblical Errors in Christian Song Lyrics?

CRIOSTAIR · Apr 26, 2005

There are two ways to look at this: 1.) creative licensing. 2.)they don't read their Bible completely. There are alot of "creative mistakes" in christian music. Take the song, "Days of Elijah". To me there are alot of questions about the rebuilding of the temple and whether we are in the days of any of the prophets. Interesting...though.

JC 101 FM · Apr 26, 2005

What about golf? I'm sure there's some nice courses to play in Heaven

JaelWasWickedCool · Apr 26, 2005

ConCo said:
GOD did not write all of these "so called" Christian songs. In fact I heard one that came out a year or so ago by Kirk Franklin. The song is called "Hosanna". In the song Kirk yells out, "What's His name?" and they reply
"Hosanna, forever". This is NOT JESUS name! In fact, this is what the Jews said to JESUS a week before HE was crucified. So PLEASE don't tell me that GOD is writing, or saying all of this stuff, because much of it is not Biblically sound.

yeah! so there, moreinsorrow! hosanna is NOT the name of jesus!! golly gosh! and besides not being his name, it's practically an awful thing to say, because the Jews said it to Jesus and then went and got the Dude crucified! it's a bad bad word! so!!! obviously God didn't write those songs!!!

The Theory · Apr 26, 2005

lets try to keep the sarcasm to below cosmostrophic levels, here...

girlofgrace727 · Apr 26, 2005

im about as good at tether ball as napoleon dynamite..i got no chance of winning..

mycatspice · Apr 26, 2005

ChrisWins said:
Greetings.

Are there any Christian songs with Biblically wrong lyrics in them?

I just heard a song for the first time - "You Were There" by Avalon - and I happened to be paying attention to the lyrics right at the beginning and I was immediately struck with the thought: That Ain't Right!

The lyrics at the beginning are:

I wonder how it must have felt
When David stood to face Goliath on a hill
I imagine that he shook with all his might
Until You took his hand, and held on tight

Can anyone see what's wrong with that?
First of all, in 1 Samuel 17 (<-link to whole passage of Scripture) there's nothing
that says they fought on a hill but that's not what struck me.

David shook? As in scared? I think not! According to the song, David shook and then the Lord took his hand and that must've made him still or calm enough to conquer Goliath.

No way, José. David walked up to Goliath with NO LESS than 100% confidence that he'd smote Goliath's butt.The Lord was TOTALLY with David from before he even arrived on the scene (just as He's with us before we even arrived on the scene!) David didn't shake, he basically said, "Come on, bring it on, Dude! You're goin' down!" We should all strive for that kind of confidence in our lives.

I'm not saying that nobody should ever listen to the song or that Satan's involved or anything silly like that... I'm just wondering if there are other songs out there that don't quite follow the Bible even though they are "Christian" songs.

CW

Did you see "The Passion of the Christ"? That film is full with stuff that was never in the Bible ... did you ever see "The 10 Commandments"? How 'bout "The Prince of Egypt"? My point is that sometimes Christian films/music don't necessarily go verse by verse to the Bible. But don't sweat the small stuff. Let's protest secular music and films before we start nit picking at Christian ones (even though Christian films are easier to criticize).

Sandygator · Apr 26, 2005

As long as the lyrics are blessing or bringing glory to God....creative license is great! Artists just need to take care not to mis-inform on important topics
such as Salvation.

I love christian music!

mycatspice · Apr 26, 2005

girlofgrace727 said:
im about as good at tether ball as napoleon dynamite..i got no chance of winning..

Me neither. Wanna play me?

JaelWasWickedCool · Apr 27, 2005

mycatspice said:
Did you see "The Passion of the Christ"? That film is full with stuff that was never in the Bible ... did you ever see "The 10 Commandments"? How 'bout "The Prince of Egypt"? My point is that sometimes Christian films/music don't necessarily go verse by verse to the Bible. But don't sweat the small stuff. Let's protest secular music and films before we start nit picking at Christian ones (even though Christian films are easier to criticize).

boy, i hate to actually be serious for a moment, but i totally disagree with what you said. i'm struggling with how to phrase exactly why, but let's just say it's something along the lines of watch out for the plank in your own eye before you shout about the speck in someone else's. or plank. haha.

Dean Anderson · Apr 27, 2005

You know, I'm writing a novel that's based on the bible but doesn't accurrately portray it, primarily because it's Christian sci-fi/fantasy and therefore it wouldn't make much sense to accurately use all the biblic prophecies, though I'm using a few accurately.

JesusWasn'tWhite · Apr 27, 2005

The thing about "Christian movies" or literature is that to make a real story, there just isn't enough hard detail in the Bible.
Now, take for example, the story of Ehud, in Judges. We know things like, Ehud was left-handed, King Eglon was obese, etc. But we don't know (based only on Bible verses) what they wore, what the king's chambers looked like, if Ehud was good looking, etc.
So, what are we supposed to do, if a movie was ever made about the Judges?
Put the actors, naked, in front of a blue screen as not to depict anything incorrectly?
Even then, with the actors, chances are, actors in the American culture do not indeed look like (skin color, facial features, build, etc) how Ehud and the Israelites of the time did.
So, what do you do?
If you're only basing a film or piece of literature on the specific Bible verses, and not in addition to good, solid, supporting evidence of other things, you won't get very far.

Same with songs.
(In direct comment to OP) Who knows if there was indeed a hill?
Who cares if there was indeed a hill?

The song, the Bible verse, etc. will not lose it's meaning or (in the case of the Bible verse) validity if there was or was not a hill.

Wow... A serious post by JesusWasn'tWhite. (Ok, so this line is semi-sarcastic, but all the stuff prior was serious)

superfly · Apr 27, 2005

hahahaha!!! brilliant post!

superfly · Apr 27, 2005

thinking of maybe making a movie out of it one day too?

CalledToWait · Apr 27, 2005

Best. Idea. Ever.

philN · Apr 27, 2005

Did you see "The Passion of the Christ"? That film is full with stuff that was never in the Bible ... did you ever see "The 10 Commandments"? How 'bout "The Prince of Egypt"? My point is that sometimes Christian films/music don't necessarily go verse by verse to the Bible. But don't sweat the small stuff. Let's protest secular music and films before we start nit picking at Christian ones (even though Christian films are easier to criticize).

Oh how I hope you are being sarcastic.

Sacred films and music must be judged with different criteria than we judge common art. There is nothing unspiritual about enjoying a secular film or song simply to be entertained. While we should not be naive about the worldviews that shape some songs and films, but we do not have to be rigorously analytic about the secular. However, we must be rigorously analytic about movies and music that is marketed toward Christians. Why? Because these things are not just entertainment, but often viewed as a form of worship. I think it is rather ignorant for a Christian to be more upset about profanity at a secular concert, than blantant irreverence and disrespect in worship (the latter ranks number two in the ten commandments). Songs, films, et cetera that are being created with worship in mind must be constantly checked for theological integrity.

Then again, I think it's ignorant to criticize the secular at all just because it is secular. That philosophy sounds like an adaptation of gnosticism, which is slowly creeping back into modern christian thought. I'm not sure you realize the implications of what you are saying are. But think about this: there is a distinction between the sacred and the secular, but hierarchially, neither is better than the other or more glorifying to God than the other. I'm not sure you agree with that, which makes me a little uneasy.

IsaacTrumpsJael · Apr 29, 2005

The thing to remember is, God wants your beleifs to be swayed by movies and music! Watch out, because if something might be inaccurate, it could bring your entire faith into jepordy! But worry not, because this is the Lord's plan.

Honestly, if these sorts of things are actually issues for you, then I think you have some things in your own heart to tend to, first. A little more focus on Him, rather than constructs of man, might be in order.

CRIOSTAIR · May 2, 2005

As far as picking at christian music, this can be a spiritually healthy way to analyze things. The scripture tells us to be careful and to always "test the spirits"--they may be spiritually sound and they may not. They may edify Christ and the may edify themselves. There are different ways to look at this topic. I find that there are alot of shallow christian groups and songs that really only puff themselves up. I met one group once that backstage had no interest in what anyone else said or felt. I also had the job of transporting their equip to the airport and making sure they got on the plane. They really showed no christian love or care. Just because we question things, it doesn't mean we are judging. After all, doesn't the scripture say that we will know them by their fruit. I didn't really hold it against them, since they may have been tired, but I know myself that I always check things first before I take much stock in anything or anyone(evangelist, music group, etc) that declares they are christians. You would be amazed at what you may find.

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