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I just don't see where Christ said anything about defending your family and loved ones with violence and killing. He went so far as to say that we should love our enemies and that it is no credit to love your family as even the worst people manage that. If you love your enemies, then killing them, blowing their legs off with mines, starving them, depriving them of basic sanitation just seems contrary to his Gospel. If you could point out the passage where Jesus said that genocide was fine, I'd appreciate that.Are you suggesting that in worse case scenarios, I should not defend my family and loved ones, or my community or my nation from violent attacks?
Kirk Cameron: Biblical command to 'turn the other cheek' doesn't mean Christians should 'tolerate tyranny'
Kirk Cameron has some thoughts on what it really means to turn the other cheekwww.christianpost.com
Kirk Cameron has some thoughts on what it really means to "turn the other cheek."
The actor said intolerance, at least when it comes to evil and tyranny, is, in fact, a “very essential Christian virtue,” one which, he added, America’s founding fathers espoused.
In a Feb. 21 appearance on the “Timcast IRL” podcast with Tim Pool, Cameron touched upon a number of topics, including his fight against “religious viewpoint discrimination” in public libraries and Noah Webster’s Christian influence on education.
But it was in response to Pool’s apparent reference to a Christian Post story earlier this month about his comments on conservative Christians playing a role in America's decline by being “tolerant and accepting” that led to a lively conversation between Pool and Cameron.
Crediting a 2023 speech by entrepreneur Patrick Bet David for his comments, Pool summarized David's speech as essentially saying, “Christians in this country are good people who keep saying OK to these people, being tolerant, allowing them to live the way they want to live.
"But what happens is they push more into the institutions, they introduce dangerous, bad ideas, they start targeting kids, and now we're here where we are today."
Cameron responded by saying “turn the other cheek” and “love your neighbor” were never intended to allow for the tolerance of evil.
“… I see so many who are just tolerating evil and that’s not loving your neighbor,” he said. “At the end of the day, the two great Commandments of Christianity are to love God with all of your heart, mind, soul and strength, and the second is like it, to love your neighbor as yourself.
“If you 'tolerate' the kinds of things that bring misery to your neighbors and ultimately strip them of their liberties, you're not loving them.”
As an example, he cited Just War Theory, followed by most Christians for over a thousand years, which states that if you believe your enemy is preparing to attack, you are justified in defending your own people by attacking first.
Cameron said the Constitution is another means of mitigating against overreach by tyrants.
“We don't tolerate tyranny, either from the outside or the inside, and that is a very essential Christian virtue, is to not tolerate that type of thing,” he added.
Depends on the circumstances, I guess, but dwelling on fantasies about it may not be spiritually healthy for a Christian.Are you suggesting that in worse case scenarios, I should not defend my family and loved ones, or my community or my nation from violent attacks?
Kirk Cameron: Biblical command to 'turn the other cheek' doesn't mean Christians should 'tolerate tyranny'
Kirk Cameron has some thoughts on what it really means to turn the other cheekwww.christianpost.com
Kirk Cameron has some thoughts on what it really means to "turn the other cheek."
The actor said intolerance, at least when it comes to evil and tyranny, is, in fact, a “very essential Christian virtue,” one which, he added, America’s founding fathers espoused.
In a Feb. 21 appearance on the “Timcast IRL” podcast with Tim Pool, Cameron touched upon a number of topics, including his fight against “religious viewpoint discrimination” in public libraries and Noah Webster’s Christian influence on education.
But it was in response to Pool’s apparent reference to a Christian Post story earlier this month about his comments on conservative Christians playing a role in America's decline by being “tolerant and accepting” that led to a lively conversation between Pool and Cameron.
Crediting a 2023 speech by entrepreneur Patrick Bet David for his comments, Pool summarized David's speech as essentially saying, “Christians in this country are good people who keep saying OK to these people, being tolerant, allowing them to live the way they want to live.
"But what happens is they push more into the institutions, they introduce dangerous, bad ideas, they start targeting kids, and now we're here where we are today."
Cameron responded by saying “turn the other cheek” and “love your neighbor” were never intended to allow for the tolerance of evil.
“… I see so many who are just tolerating evil and that’s not loving your neighbor,” he said. “At the end of the day, the two great Commandments of Christianity are to love God with all of your heart, mind, soul and strength, and the second is like it, to love your neighbor as yourself.
“If you 'tolerate' the kinds of things that bring misery to your neighbors and ultimately strip them of their liberties, you're not loving them.”
As an example, he cited Just War Theory, followed by most Christians for over a thousand years, which states that if you believe your enemy is preparing to attack, you are justified in defending your own people by attacking first.
Cameron said the Constitution is another means of mitigating against overreach by tyrants.
“We don't tolerate tyranny, either from the outside or the inside, and that is a very essential Christian virtue, is to not tolerate that type of thing,” he added.
you amuse meDoes that include making up false claims about evolution producing a croco-duck?
Can you prove that he said what you claim, while also prove that he was actually being serious if and when he said it?You didn't answer the question.
Jesus instructed his followers to buy a sword in Luke 22:36I am very clearly asking for where Christ taught that Christians (?) are allowed to defend themselves and their loved ones with violence. I seem to recall that blessed are those who lose their lives in His name.
Everybody has seen this video. Kirk's friend also claims that the shape of the banana proves that it was divinely-designed. They're both serious, but they have no clue.Can you prove that he said what you claim, while also prove that he was actually being serious if and when he said it?
The "bull - frog"? Are they serious?Everybody has seen this video. Kirk's friend also claims that the shape of the banana proves that it was divinely-designed. They're both serious, but they have no clue.
What does He say to do with the sword? He does not say to use the sword to defend Him or themselves. He doesn’t say to kill anyone in self-defense or in defense of loved ones.Jesus instructed his followers to buy a sword in Luke 22:36
A Biblical Perspective on Self-Defense and the Use of Lethal Force (and a lesson in interpretation)
We live in a curious age where we see but we do not see, where we try and find an exception to a rule where there is no exception. We live in an age where all too often good people seem to be in search of wiggle room where there is none.www.linkedin.com
The Bible does say that though. Jesus never contradicts that. So from a holistic biblical perspective it means Jesus is not against self defense.What does He say to do with the sword? He does not say to use the sword to defend Him or themselves. He doesn’t say to kill anyone in self-defense or in defense of loved ones.
What are they gonna use the sword for, to chop onions? *wink*What does He say to do with the sword? He does not say to use the sword to defend Him or themselves. He doesn’t say to kill anyone in self-defense or in defense of loved ones.
Does say what? He does not say to use the sword to defend Him or themselves. He doesn’t say to kill anyone in self-defense or in defense of loved ones.The Bible does say that though.
Except, maybe, when He says to turn the other cheek and that whoever seeks to save his life shall lose it.Jesus never contradicts that. So from a holistic biblical perspective it means Jesus is not against self defense.
Dunno. Doesn't say. Two swords divided among them all doesn't amount to much, How are they actually used?What are they gonna use the sword for, to chop onions? *wink*
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