Bibles?

[SamanthaAnastasia]

So my mother asked for a Bible for her birthday.
She is not orthodox (currently she is a non practicing Protestant).
She requested a KJV bible. My question is: are there any orthodox bibles that have the KJV translations? Are there any orthodox bibles that don’t say they’re specifically orthodox? Silly questions, forgive me. Any recommendations would be much appreciated. God bless.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

The NKJV is good enough really.

https://www.amazon.com/Thinline-Sta...&keywords=NKJV&qid=1598561344&s=books&sr=1-25

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[WanderedHome]

So my mother asked for a Bible for her birthday.
She is not orthodox (currently she is a nonpracticing Protestant).
She requested a KJV bible. My question is: are there any orthodox bibles that have the KJV translations? Are there any orthodox bibles that don’t say they’re specifically orthodox? Silly questions, forgive me. Any recommendations would be much appreciated. God bless.

There's only one Orthodox Bible in English, and the New Testmanet text is NKJV, which is actually a Protestant translation. It is definitely not a "discreetly Orthodox Bible." It sounds like she probably wants the KJV for the poetic language or possibly the nostalgia of what she grew up on. There aren't any other Bible translations that match that. KJV would not be a bad choice, though, as it was a good translation in its day. Many Orthodox even continue to read from Protestant translations. If you wanted to encourage her towards Orthodoxy, you could maybe get a nice KJV edition and put a bookmark with an icon of Christ on it- something very mild for a Protestant not ready for the Theotokos yet

Side note: the thing that makes the Orthodox Study Bible Orthodox is the Old Testament is translated from the Septuagint, which is the Greek translation the Apostles used. Also, the OSB was edited by Orthodox theologians, so the commentaries are all Orthodox views. Plus, there are nice icon pictures scattered throughout the pages.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

There's also The Orthodox Study Bible that has The NKJV New Testament :

https://www.amazon.com/Orthodox-Stu...dox+study+Bible&qid=1598561549&s=books&sr=1-2

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[Tra Phull]

I like the Orthodox Study Bible - I am Methodist.
It's New Testament, as said, is NKJV. It's Old Testament is based on Septuagint - a really unique production.

 

[Tra Phull]

The commentary notes in Orthodox Study Bible are superb, giving a lot of early church fathers' comments. As seen above, it's cover is cool.

 

[DraculKain]

If she is requesting a KJV I wouldn’t go with the Orthodox Study Bible. Many American Fundamentalist Christians see newer translations as downright evil. A good way to plant an Orthodox seed would be buying her the New Cambridge Paragraph Bible. The version I will link, that I own, includes most of the deuterocanonical books accepted by the Orthodox Church (Tobit, Judith, Baruch, etc.). It would be a good chance to mention the history of why those books were removed by Protestant Bible societies from the original KJV, while exposing her to the Orthodox Scriptures not in most Protestant Bibles.

Here is the link: https://amazon.com/gp/product/052119881X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[Tra Phull]

WanderedHome - how would you suggest a Protestant "get ready" for Theotokos?
LOL

I have read ProtoEvangellium of James - can't swallow the Magi being at the manger.

But I believe Jesus' brothers and sisters were from an earlier marriage of Joseph.

Perhaps a Protestant systematic theology of THEOTOKOS will yet emerge.

 

[Tra Phull]

I used to have a Cambridge Wide Margin KJV, with space to write your own notes on the side. It does not have the deuterocanonical books though. The Oxford Annotated Edition is a NRSV, with commentary notes more liberal than Orthodox but it has deuterocanonical books.

 

[Tra Phull]

They may still make KJV that includes Apocrypha/deuterocanonicals. That is the way it came originally.

 

[Jude1:3Contendforthefaith]

It's annoying that in 2020 A.D. we still don't have a widely excepted, universal Orthodox English Bible with an Old Testament made from The Septuagint and a New Testament made from the 1904 Text of The Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople Combined Together.

The EOB is a New Testament made from the 1904 Text of The Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople Text though :

https://www.amazon.com/EOB-Orthodox-Testament-Patriarchal-extensive/dp/148191765X

Greek New Testament - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America

Greek New Testament

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[Tra Phull]

KJV Bibles with Apocrypha do exist and can be bought online

 

[ArmyMatt]

you can give the KJV. what makes something Orthodox is the understanding, not the text alone.

 

[James A]

There's only one Orthodox Bible in English, and the New Testmanet text is NKJV, which is actually a Protestant translation. It is definitely not a "discreetly Orthodox Bible." It sounds like she probably wants the KJV for the poetic language or possibly the nostalgia of what she grew up on. There aren't any other Bible translations that match that. KJV would not be a bad choice, though, as it was a good translation in its day. Many Orthodox even continue to read from Protestant translations. If you wanted to encourage her towards Orthodoxy, you could maybe get a nice KJV edition and put a bookmark with an icon of Christ on it- something very mild for a Protestant not ready for the Theotokos yet

Side note: the thing that makes the Orthodox Study Bible Orthodox is the Old Testament is translated from the Septuagint, which is the Greek translation the Apostles used. Also, the OSB was edited by Orthodox theologians, so the commentaries are all Orthodox views. Plus, there are nice icon pictures scattered throughout the pages.

I consider myself blessed for owning a copy of Orthodox Study Bible. Beside having the translation of Greek OT read by Jesus and Apostles, it contains tons of notes, connecting OT to NT and early churches traditions.

OSB is a priceless tool in understanding the Message.

 

[James A]

Does anyone know English translation of Peshitta (Syriac) Bible?

 

[Tra Phull]

Lamsa Bible, James A

I used to have one, lost it

A poster said it was online somewhere

 

[James A]

Lamsa Bible, James A

I used to have one, lost it

A poster said it was online somewhere

George M Lamsa? I do have a copy but I think it is translated from Aramaic. Pardon my limited knowledge here, are Aramaic and Syriac manuscripts same?

 

[Tra Phull]

As far as I know they are same.
I think you got it, James A!

An interesting point was Lamsa' s assertion that it was ROPE rather than CAMEL that was talked about going through eye of a needle, Lamsa pointed out how similar rope and camel were in Aramaic/Syriac.

This was talked about on CF years ago, and some Aramaic big-shot said Lamsa was wrong, but it was all over my head.

Once one of my posts that had the word PeSHITta was flagged with (bless and do not curse)
LOL

The prophet's names in Lamsa Bible are quite diverse, way beyond Isaiah/Esaias, really hard name spellings for several OT prophets

 

[WanderedHome]

Many American Fundamentalist Christians see newer translations as downright evil.

I wouldn't say "many" Fundamentalists, but some for sure. Mainly the KJV-onlyists (and really only the KJV 1611 people at that) are completely closed off to anything newer, but their numbers are pretty small. Most fundamentalists are pretty open to various translations. However, they are very cautious towards certain politically correct ones like the TNIV or something that does not have strong textual criticism.

 

[Tra Phull]

Some fundamentalists do demonize later translations.
They think any manuscripts out of Alexandria are

E-VILLE.