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How about "tu quoque"?
Can you elaborate about that? Let us in on what “tu quoque” means? And how you meant it in this instance?How about "tu quoque"?
Tu quoque means "you, too". If someone challenges you on your actions and rather than explain yourself you respond "but you do it, too" you've committed a tu quoque fallacy.Can you elaborate about that? Let us in on what “tu quoque” means? And how you meant it in this instance?
Yeah, I can see something like "hugging one's wife with tender care (or vice versa)" as something that could be seen as a form of human depravity, especially 3000 years from now, don't you?
I can see by the year 5019, we can hug our wife without actually doing it. We'll all have sensors and stimulators implanted in our heads along with a quantum microcomputer and transmitter. We'll just think about hugging our wife. The sensors will input the pattern of neuronal activity associated with that thought to our implanted computer. Which will correctly decode it as an intention to hug our wife. This will be then transmitted to our wife's computer, which will stimulate the proper neuronal circuitry in her brain. Resulting in her feeling the sensation of a tender, loving hug.
Of course, it can also be done the old-fashioned way, too.
Of course, it can also be done the old-fashioned way, too.
This comment of yours doesn't really address or counter anything that is inherent in what I said above. So, I'm just going to have ask, "So what"? If anything, you've just offered a nice little Star Trek vignette of yet one more way to send a "Greeting Card," or a futuristic equivalence of such.
Lighten up. I was speculating...just as you were. But why so serious? Have some fun. People who are light-hearted and optimistic live longer.
Though probably not 3000 years longer.
Ok. I'll lighten up. It's just I don't understand the incessant dismissal and issue skirting that various atheists prefer to advocate as a form of "expression" when they discuss subjects with Christians. If anything, all of this seems like a misplaced attempt at humor which, to me, doesn't feel like any kind of creative dig at some higher truth, but rather seems to be an attempt at obfuscation and a reinforcement of a "firewall of disbelief," if you will.
But, sure. If some of you guys use an emoticon in your posts, I'll try to remember to "lighten up" a bit and perhaps remind myself that my interlocutor may be saying something tongue-in-cheek. I guess somewhere in there is the ol' maxim, "Do unto other as you would have them to unto you." Ok. I guess that's fair enough, in certain contexts.
Excellent! We will have different opinions, but we should try to keep it friendly and good spirited. This is just a discussion board. It's not gladiatorial combat to the death.
They had it coming.Hello there, I would like to know your opinions on these verses:
1 Samuel 15:3
Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.
A cry for justice against the Babylonian army.Pslam 137
Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us / He who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks."
Hard to do, but necessary. Imitating Christ on the cross.Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.” (1 Peter 2:18)
Judah was idolatrous, chasing after improper ways, rather than the ways given to her by God. That whole chapter is an apt description of Israel and Judah's idolatry, though certainly not for children.She lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. Ezekiel 23:20 NIV
They had to deal with the Midianites, who were hostile to them. Sparing the virgins meant sparing those who had not enticed the Israelite men sexually to take part in their idolatry.Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man intimately. But all the girls who have not known man intimately, spare for yourselves. Numbers 31:17-18
I once monitored a computer lab for special needs students. One of them had a discharge on one of the chairs. "Everything on which she sits shall be unclean" indeed. That chair had to be taken away. Given how low-tech Israel was at the time, I'd say this is understandable.When a woman has a discharge, if her discharge in her body is blood, she shall continue in her menstrual impurity for seven days; and whoever touches her shall be unclean until evening. Everything also on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean, and everything on which she sits shall be unclean. Leviticus 15: 19-20
For the life of me, I can't think of why grabbing a man's genitals and pulling would be for his personal safety. She could have grabbed any other limb. Heck yeah, cut her hand off.When men fight with one another, and the wife of the one draws near to rescue her husband from the hand of him who is beating him, and puts out her hand and seizes him by the private parts, then you shall cut off her hand. Deuteronomy 25:11-12
There were a few evil nations that God told them to destroy. Not sure what else you want to be explained from that.
This was during the Jewish exile in Babylon. They had enslaved the Jews, killed their babies, and destroyed their city and God's people were crying out for the same kind of revenge on them.
The word used here is not the Greek douli, the classic term for "slaves." Rather, it is oiketai, probably best translated as "servants." That being said, the line between servants and slaves was blurry in Peter's time. Slavery had little to do with race. Oftentimes if a man could not pay his debts he would become a slave for 7 years to pay it off. Others were prisoners of war and some were born into it. Slavery was seen as completely normal in this time period but most times it wasn't how we think of it.
That is a metaphor for the unfaithful and ungodly behaviours of Israelites.
Another directive to kill of an evil nation.
When they presented their spoils to Moses and Eleazar the priest, Moses became very angry because they had spared the lives of the women and children. Numbers 31:15-18, “And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive? Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD. Only the female children of the Midianites were spared. This ensured the demise of the Midianites as a race since there were no males to carry on the lineage.
The Old Testament had a lot of health laws. They had no idea about germs or how diseases spread. While the threat of hand removal sounds grim I don't believe there is record of it ever happening. Grabbing hold of a man's genitals who was not your husband was considered a very bad crime. The offence was similar to adultery and of course, that was stoning to death.
Remember this was all part of their culture and times. We are not under any of the Old Testament laws.
How about these, OP?
You are either ignorant of the context of the verses, or simply deceiving. All these sword verses were revealed for a specific reason. They are not generalizing like the Bible. Nowhere it says to kill every man and women.
Tu quoque means "you, too". If someone challenges you on your actions and rather than explain yourself you respond "but you do it, too" you've committed a tu quoque fallacy.
What a childish response.
Yes He did.Did God really say that she lusted over lovers whose gentals were like of donkeys? Was really that a necessarity? And God really say that the happy one is who dashes children against the rocks?
The concept of marriage as a legal institution will probably be seen as archaic, but a more likely candidate for “depravity in hindsight” would be our current prison and criminal justice system.Yeah, I can see something like "hugging one's wife with tender care (or vice versa)" as something that could be seen as a form of human depravity, especially 3000 years from now, don't you?
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