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It is explaining a more difficult concept in terms of concrete physical concept that we can see and understand. Bit like the word spirit itself which originally meant breath or wind, but was used as a metaphor to reach beyond the physical meaning.Spiritual death is not a metaphor -- it is literal.
What's your point? did I say something wrong?It is explaining a more difficult concept in terms of concrete physical concept that we can see and understand. Bit like the word spirit itself which originally meant breath or wind, but was used as a metaphor to reach beyond the physical meaning.
They're called 'alchemists' when they failed, right?
Had they been successful, they would have been called, 'scientists', eh?
Should I?Do you even know what alchemy is?...
Interesting idea which might even tie in to the whole idea of circumcision in the OT, though reading up on it, I would like to see a stronger lexicological link between the Hebrew tsela and the idea of a baculum. Brings a whole new meaning to argumentum ad baculum.I've heard an interesting interpretation of Genesis concerining Adam's "rib":
Men actually aren't missing any ribs -- that's just a myth. The Jews would've seen enough skeletons to have noticed that, so the notion of this myth explaining a situation which didn't actually exist makes little sense.
What I've heard, is that "rib" is actually a mistranslation, and the bone that eve was supposedly made out of was, in fact, the baculum. Humans are one of the few mammals who do not posess this bone -- something else the Jews would've noticed by looking at a couple of skeletons.
Now here we have two tangentally related situations (the presence of females, and the lack of a certain male "bone.") both begging for an explanation -- does it seem plausible that the Jews would kill two birds with one mythological stone?
So unless the writer was a closet Satanist, he must have intended it metaphorically.Which is kind of interesting, because the only way to conclude that God didn't flat out lie and that the serpent was telling the truth is to read it metaphorically.
I know what you mean. After the original big bang theory no longer fit observations, instead of falsifying the theory they decided to modify the physics; instead of an explosion within space it became an explosion of space itself.I just googled "modified physics", and could not find anything remotely similar to your definition of it...the closest I could come to deals with ASTROphysics and cosmology...
The law of modified physics is a term sometimes used when referring to miracles. It has to do with the spiritual rules that govern how matter behaves.I would LOVE to see your link to the matter.
Spiritual death is real but calling it death is a metaphor.
LOL -- great minds think alike, eh?
Then why do believers disagree as to whether Genesis is a parable?Because He tells us in the Bible who the parable is for and He makes it known to all believers.
I'm confused; are you saying you agree with what I said, or that Christians would agree with what you said?Agree
Agree
Interesting.Revelation 20:2
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old SERPENT, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
That doesn't address my point, as far as I can tell. To recap:No contradiction. I made that clear without having to point fingers.
Romans 10:13-17 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
And the bread of life is the much better than ordinary bread.-- huh?
It's the worst way to die.
And once again, Assyrian; spiritual death is not a metaphor.You see creationist have a very low opinion of metaphors, yet they are used in the bible to describe things much greater, or much worse than the literal meaning.
what in particular?
The spiritual death is real but the death is a metaphor?You mixed up literal and real. Spiritual death is real but calling it death is a metaphor.
The bread is a metaphor, the dying is real.And the bread of life is the much better than ordinary bread.
John 6:50 This is the bread that comes down from heaven, so that one may eat of it and not die.
It is still a metaphor. You see creationist have a very low opinion of metaphors, yet they are used in the bible to describe things much greater, or much worse than the literal meaning.
Yup --The bread is a metaphor, the dying is real.
Something like the alchemists were trying to do when they were working on turning lead into gold?,,,
Ok I have explained how it is a metaphor, you need to do a bit more than simply claim it isn't.And once again, Assyrian; spiritual death is not a metaphor.
No matter what I think of metaphors -- (I happen to like them, myself) -- the rules of metaphor do not apply to death in Genesis 3.
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