Even if God had not created the greater light, light was still created on day one. I mean even look at the triad diagram that has day one and four right next to each other and think about it. Day and night were already differentiated on day one, and again on day four.
elopez, I really want to get what you are trying to say here, but I just don't. If you really want to invest the time to get to the bottom of this issue with light, then I am willing to continue to discuss it with you. I think what you are saying is God created "light" twice, is that it?
I believe you did. Remember, in your attempt to quote scripture to support the claim, "Here is another example of light without the sun." All I was saying is that you also must mean the sun was not present until day four, right?
The sun was not yet made.
Above all this means that if the framework theology is correct, that if Genesis does not give a chronological account of creationism, then it does not give a scientific basis for creation. Genesis would not be telling us the exact order that God created things, just eloquently stating the truth in that God did create it. If Genesis does not give a scientific account for creation, then it can be up to the reader and believer of Genesis to believe what they happen to find to be true on the origins of the universe, earth, and all life so long as God is included as the cause and author of such process. Now one may find the evidence for evolution compelling, hence a Bible believing Christian also believing in evolution.
And this is where the biggest mistake is made when reading the Bible.
The Bible must be read in full from cover to cover in faith and prayer to begin to get understanding. It is not all found in Genesis.
Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
If Genesis does not give a scientific account for creation, then it can be up to the reader and believer of Genesis to believe what they happen to find to be true on the origins of the universe, earth, and all life so long as God is included as the cause and author of such process.
So because God who exists in eternity (No Time) did not time stamp everything, that gives us the right to believe what ever we want?
Because we do not know on what day he made Eve are we to believe she evolved?
Lets look at the account of the creation of Eve.
Gen. Chp. 2
21 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said, This [is] now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Now the Bible tells us how long Adam lived in
Genesis 5:5 And all the days that ADAM lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.
So we know that was not enough time for Eve to evolve. So again, if one is a "Bible believer" how does one get evolution out of that. It does not even have to be read "literally". Adam was created a man, Eve was created a Woman.
The biggest argument Im hearing is " Well if its not in the Bible then you dismiss it as a possibility?" I say, lets look at what is already written on the matter.
Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Since God said let us make man in our image. (The image of God, after his likeness) are we to believe that God was a single celled organism in this passage? If we believe in evolution we would have to make that assumption, if we believe the Bible, we know better.
