Nathan Poe
Well-Known Member
OK
Yes, the Bible is clear, Jesus was born in Bethlehem. I grew up in Florida but was born in NY. Matthew 2:1 Now when Jesus was born in BETHLEHEM of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,
Would you mind sharing why and how you made the move? And then would you like to discuss if those reasons and methods were available to someone living in 1st century Judea?
Holy Ghost
Sorry -- you said "no interpretations."
The traditional story is not the Truth that is found in the Word of God. Also, what is "the issue"???
The issue is that Christians have been getting their info from the wrong source for quite some time -- especially once they start actually looking at the "Word of God."
Where in the Word of God do you see Mary and Joseph already living in Bethlehem?
Where in the word of Matthew (remember, we're just talking about Matthew's Gospel; Luke's hadn't even been written yet) do you see otherwise? Matthew's story assumes Mary and Joseph living in Bethlehem; The famous "star of Bethlehem" led the wise men not to a manger, but to their house (Matthew 2:11). The star appearing over a manger and the wise men coming there -- that's Christmas play theology; you're well rid of it.
I see nothing here. If you have a point, make it more clear.
What story exactly?
A wicked king, to preserve his own power, orders newborn male children put to death, and you don't see an Old Testament connection?
I thought you said you were Jewish?
How?
You seriously need to go back and read Exodus -- your spiritual understanding is sorely lacking, my friend.
The second time a "Joseph" has done that -- and he's almost identical to the first one.
And like I told you earlier, It is a spiritual book. And within the Word of God, there is always a picture of whats to come. Adam for instance is a type of Jesus. As are the following:
Abraham - The Father of the Faith
Isaac - The Sacrificed Son
Joseph - The Suffering Servant
Moses - The Deliverer
Jonathon - The Faithful Friend
David - The King in Exile
Solomon - The Millennial Reign
Nehemiah - The Rebuilder of our Salvation
Sorry, you specifically said that you were not going to rely on any interpretations -- just "the Word of God." Now you're relying on archetypes of either your own or some other theologian's invention.
See how little one gets out of "the Word of God" without some sort of interpretive framework?
I read some of your posts since I last posted you, I do not fear anything you have said neither has it troubled me. You simply have not offered anything of interest or specific as of yet.
So you say, but you weren't able to refute anything according to the terms you yourself set -- and your denial of Exodus is beneath you.
Why do I get the impression you're slowing making your way towards the Emergency Exit?
Upvote
0
