Bible Contradictions?

[artybloke]

Arrogance of following the Bible's promises, you mean? Seriously, go read your Bible if you don't think we can talk to God and have the Spirit...

Do you actually read what I say, or do you just read what you want to read? (Pretty much the latter, as that's the way fundamentalists read the Bible: they find what they think they'll find rather than what's actually there.)

I certainly wasn't implying that the Spirit can't speak now - nor that the Spirit can't speak to you - in fact, I think the Spirit is speaking now. Through feminism, the green movement, the anti-war movement etc...

He who has ears to hear...

 

[Mathetes the kerux]

Personally, I've never studied this topic. But someone complained the bible isn't trustworthy because of contradictions. I'm sure there are those better able to tackle these questions them myself. Here they are:

Many of these so called "contradictions" are aleviated by scribal error, like the addition of a "quill" stroke making 4000 to 40,000, and interpretive method. For instance anthropomorphisms . . . does God have wings? No . . . but the concept of wings helps to explain for us in human terms (anthropomorphisms) the feeling/concept meant to be conveyed.

Others are doctrinal understandings . . . like Moses seeing God . . . orthodoxy believes that Moses saw Christ not the Father where one text refers to the father (no one has ever seen God) and the other refers to Christ the Son.
Also the sovereignty of God . . . God is attributed with the action of Satan because Satan is not completely autonomous. God does not "tempt" but He allows temptation.

Pax

MTK

 

[Steve Petersen]

Do you actually read what I say, or do you just read what you want to read? (Pretty much the latter, as that's the way fundamentalists read the Bible: they find what they think they'll find rather than what's actually there.)

I certainly wasn't implying that the Spirit can't speak now - nor that the Spirit can't speak to you - in fact, I think the Spirit is speaking now. Through feminism, the green movement, the anti-war movement etc...

He who has ears to hear...

'If I hadn't believed it, I wouldn't have seen it!'

 

[JWNEWMAN]

Do you actually read what I say, or do you just read what you want to read? (Pretty much the latter, as that's the way fundamentalists read the Bible: they find what they think they'll find rather than what's actually there.)

I certainly wasn't implying that the Spirit can't speak now - nor that the Spirit can't speak to you - in fact, I think the Spirit is speaking now. Through feminism, the green movement, the anti-war movement etc...

He who has ears to hear...

Feminism??? What is the Spirit of Christ saying through feminism?

Anti-war? The Green... oh well, I suppose you think man, can come up with the solution? Look at history, it will give you a glimpse into the future... without the direct intervention of God, this planet is nothing but a memory... a bad memory at that.

 

[artybloke]

God doesn't directly intervene. He lets us do the work for him. Hence movements like anti-war, green, feminism... God's ways of working through humanity...

 

[Steve Petersen]

Feminism??? What is the Spirit of Christ saying through feminism?

Anti-war? The Green... oh well, I suppose you think man, can come up with the solution? Look at history, it will give you a glimpse into the future... without the direct intervention of God, this planet is nothing but a memory... a bad memory at that.

Did God work through the Allies to defeat Hitler? If so, how can anyone be anti-war.

 

[artybloke]

I can't think of any current war that is in the least bit moral.

I don't think God works that way. God isn't a chess-player.

 

[KCDAD]

I can't think of any current war that is in the least bit moral.

I don't think God works that way. God isn't a chess-player.

War is simply politics that require greater amounts of force than merely rhetoric. So you are safe in saying all politics isn't in the least bit moral.

 

[KCDAD]

Originally Posted by Idea
John1:3 Without him was not any thing made that was made.

If it was made, it was made by Him. Some things were not made - some things are self-existent.

Anyways… I have some problems with a book that has gone through the dark ages too – that is why I rely on a modern day prophet and on the guidance of the Holy Spirit to know truth.

In science, a conclusion is not made until after observation, experimentation, and discussion… Perhaps religious conclusions should likewise be made…Don’t make conclusions first, then justify it later – first observe, experiment… then make a conclusion. Then change the conclusion if you find further light and knowledge… have an open mind.. just a thought J
Who is this modern day prophet?

I got my answer... anyone surprised?

http://www.irr.org/MIT/hinckley.html
President Gordon B. Hinckley seemed to dodge and dissemble in an August 4, 1997 Time cover story when veteran religion writer Richard N. Ostling asked him about the distinctive Mormon teaching that humans can become gods, and that God the Father was once a man

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9630256/site/newsweek/
What do you believe is Smith's most meaningful contribution, not only to the church but also to the world?
His greatest contribution I think is defining the nature of deity. He saw the Father and the Son. He spoke with them. They were beings of substance. They were in form like a man. And they could express themselves and he could speak with them. Such an interpersonal relationship. And such a warm and reassuring thing to know the nature of God.

 

[ContentInHim]

Do you actually read what I say, or do you just read what you want to read? (Pretty much the latter, as that's the way fundamentalists read the Bible: they find what they think they'll find rather than what's actually there.)

I certainly wasn't implying that the Spirit can't speak now - nor that the Spirit can't speak to you - in fact, I think the Spirit is speaking now. Through feminism, the green movement, the anti-war movement etc...

He who has ears to hear...

Which spirit is that?

I need some scriptural evidence that feminism, the greens and contemporary anti-war movements are righteous!

 

[artybloke]

Which spirit is that?

I need some scriptural evidence that feminism, the greens and contemporary anti-war movements are righteous!

I wasn't aware there was than one Holy Spirit.