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Bible code Cracked?

leon4900

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I've read the first of the Drosnin books, where he throws out Bible code predictions about meteors and nuclear holocausts, and your all right, the scripture (even the BC if it is valid) should not be used for fortune telling. For anyone wanting a great read on the subject that also has a great deal of background on the current subject, try Satinover's 'Cracking the Bible Code'. He treats it as what it is, a statistical anomoly.
Jewish oral tradition has it that G-d gave the Torah to Moses, letter for letter, as a continuous stream of text which the Hebrews were to meticulously copy from generation to generation. Ancient Jewish and Christian mystics examined this text for encoded information, as did Isaac Newton.
It's true that any text of considerable length will inevitably hold equidistant letter sequences that make up words and phrases, but Satinover states that most of the mathematicians that work seriously on these codes emphasize 'minimal skip' patterns. That is, statistically, given the size of the text, the shorter sequences mean a greater significance of probability. And he details the probability ratio of some of the early findings. Giving examples, such as the SCUD attacks during the first Gulf War, these shorter letter skips, along with dates in close proximity in a cluster matrix to the encrypted event showed more accurate details of the attacks. There were three possible dates in the matrix of text and the one with the shortest sequence closest to the encrypted "Iraq" and "SCUD attacks" (or something close) proved to be the date that the attacks began.
I also read about the Moby Dick experiment, and this BC thing could all prove to be just a common linguistic phenomena. It's possible. Many of us want to believe it. I'm sure many are just neutral, and some are skeptical because of critical minds or even that there is a fear that they don't want to buy into this if it's just going to be disproven. However, if G-d did encrypt His Word with these tell-tale watermarks, I would not be surprised by it.
If the LORD is bound neither by time nor space, as I'm sure most of us believe, then would it be unreasonable to find that His inspired Scripture bears evidence of that characteristic?
 
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Bible codes? WHat happens if you try the same thing in Swahilli or Russian and lets throw a spanner in the works do a side by side code of a Russian-Ukranian-Belorussian bible. The laguages are similar but the spelling can be wildly different. Why is the English language version the only version the Crosnin can get his theory to work with? Is it that only English speakers are worthy of Gods higher plan as revelad by Crosnins codes? Somehow I really doubt it.

Here's a code for you. Blessed is he who sees and believes, blessed is he who also believes yet does not see.

The guy who did the Moby Dick experiment did it because Crosnin dared him to he is from Australia and is a uni professor). Crosnin clamed it would only wirk with the Bible and that if someone could do it with any other book he would stop making his claims of supernatural codes.

The Moby Dick experiment found not only the previous stated claims but also the eath of Dianna (Princess).

Again I ask you why does it only work in English? especially when God made it clear to preach to all the world, most of the world's population cannot read let alone speak English.
 
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Bible codes? WHat happens if you try the same thing in Swahilli or Russian and lets throw a spanner in the works do a side by side code of a Russian-Ukranian-Belorussian bible. The laguages are similar but the spelling can be wildly different. Why is the English language version the only version the Crosnin can get his theory to work with? Is it that only English speakers are worthy of Gods higher plan as revelad by Crosnins codes? Somehow I really doubt it.

Here's a code for you. Blessed is he who sees and believes, blessed is he who also believes yet does not see.

The guy who did the Moby Dick experiment did it because Crosnin dared him to he is from Australia and is a uni professor). Crosnin clamed it would only wirk with the Bible and that if someone could do it with any other book he would stop making his claims of supernatural codes.

The Moby Dick experiment found not only the previous stated claims but also the eath of Dianna (Princess).

Again I ask you why does it only work in English? especially when God made it clear to preach to all the world, most of the world's population cannot read let alone speak English.
It doesn't work in English. The Bible code research is done totally in the original Hebrew language that most of the OT was written in. Drosnin takes a lot of liberties with his findings. One of the things that Satinover pointed out is that any text of length will, within a certain probability, contain words and phrases at fixed intervals. What he stresses is that the shorter the Equidistant Letter Sequence, the more genuine it seemed to be within the Hebrew text. Apparently because the phenomena is far less likely to happen in small matrices. This is called minimal skip. From rebuttals I read by Witztum and others, the Moby Dick experiment didn't really take this part into consideration, but maybe neither did Drosnin, who really left himself open to a smackdown on this one.
Again, this stuff is pretty interesting. Who knows if there's anything to it, but you're right. Faith is the most important thing in our journey.
 
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It doesn't work in English. The Bible code research is done totally in the original Hebrew language that most of the OT was written in. Drosnin takes a lot of liberties with his findings.
Yes he does take alot of liberties especially considering the OT was writen n Aramaic. Also The Bible as it was originally written contains no vowels but Drosnins stuff does. The man is a fraud and a confidence trickster, the pity is how many people he has sucked in.
 
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Yes he does take alot of liberties especially considering the OT was writen n Aramaic. Also The Bible as it was originally written contains no vowels but Drosnins stuff does. The man is a fraud and a confidence trickster, the pity is how many people he has sucked in.

Could you give us a link that proves what you have said? God bless.
 
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