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what amazes me is that God has said that He would preserve His Word, and No body that I know of has a problem with the fact that God through the Holy Spirit inspired His every Word through the Men of the Bible to be penned by man, But the Amazement is that God can not inspire men to translate that Word, into other languages!! simply amazing, I wonder what happened to the God, that Sarah said " was there anything too hard for God". I guess we don't have the same God as of yesterday, for according to the most denominations it is too hard for Him to give us An inspired English Bible without Error, because man has had our hands in it. HELLO!!! the men of the Bible who penned the orginal scripts was man also! then on the other hand there were false prophets that claim to have spoken the Word of God, so not every word that has been put in a manuscript is the Holy Word of God. so how can we determined which one would be? maybe by His Promise that He would preserve His Word, so would a manuscript that was missing for thousands of years as the dead sea scrolls, with people in the time period, being without the Holy Word of God? or a alexandria text that was missing for around 1300 years be from God , if So then Those that live and died in that time people missed out on the Promises of God about preserving His Holy Word, so You will never convince me that God has lied to some at some time period over the years, no matter how much anyone knows about History or the Greek and English languages, as I have said before I will trust God over man every time, an if this makes me sound stupid then stupid I will be!!! So if the 400 year old Bible is the wrong one and if it does not agree with in every area with the new right ones then God has lied and for around 340 years between 1611 and 1950's man that lived and died in that time period did Not Have His Holy Word, and All my friends in Christ SORRY, BUT THIS JUST CAN"T BE, and if they had the right one, between 1611 and the 1950's as God has promised then the new ones just can't Be the Holy Word of God? this is fact that you can't wiggle around!!
MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!!!
The NT quotes two versions. Sometimes it quotes the Septuagint, and sometimes the quote differs from the Septuagint. Your theory that preservation means only one correct and perfect text fails on this point alone.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!!!!
I disagree.Merry Christmas to you and yours also.
BTW- We are not going to agree on this topic.
I disagree.
Aha ha ha ha ha
Merry Christmas to all.
Can anyone point me toward a listing of errors in the King James Bible or in other translations?
This website is decent, although I've found some error but I think overall it does a decent job.
Versions of the Bible
Merry Christmas!!!
Well, I guess if you're going to admit that you don't care what really happened and will use your specific dogma concerning scriptural preservation to summarily dismiss patent errors in the KJV, there's nothing more to be said to you.
There are two ways you can go about defending KJV onlyism - historically or religiously. The historic KJVO believes crackpot theories about conspiracies corrupting the scripture, and generally doesn't understand the concept of textual criticism. It's easily debunked by demonstrating that the texts underlying the KJV contains haplography, dittography, and glosses, that the translators simply made up the definition of Hebrew words the authors didn't understand, and translated the NT as if it were a work of Classical, not Koine Greek.
If you're going to simply start deciding that facts are whatever means the KJV is inerrant, then you're simply demanding that everyone accepts your religious beliefs as a priori knowledge, without giving them reasons to believe it.
show me the errors and let me defend to Holy Word of God, but warning label, it is not an error simply because it is not say the same as your text, I would say your translation but seeing you are too ashamed to tell which translation you use I can't say that now can I? again my prayer for you is that your eyes be opened to see that you fight to destory the 400 year old true Word of God!
well is haplograph, greek? cause I can't find it in the english dictionary anywhere. so I may have to get you to translate what haplograph means so I can defend I sam 11!They have already been pointed out in this thread. I Sam 11 contains a haplograph in the KJV. Let's start there.
And, for the umpteenth time, I'm not using a translation. I'm using the Greek.
Haplography is the process by which scribes lose their place while copying texts, search for the letters they last wrote in the text from which they were writing, pick the wrong set of letters, and thereby begin copying from the wrong place, losing all the text in the middle.
The KJV is missing this text from right before the beginning of I Sam 11: "Now Nahash king of the Ammonites oppressed the Gadites and Reubenites severely. He gouged out all their right eyes and struck terror and dread in Israel. Not a man remained among the Israelites beyond the Jordan whose right eye was not gouged out by Nahash king of the Ammonites, except that seven thousand men fled from the Ammonites and entered Jabesh Gilead. About a month later,"
This text begins and ends with nHS and thus is regarded by scholars universally as part of the original text which was lost by hapolography.
In the ESV:
Your kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
and your dominion endures throughout all generations.
The LORD is faithful in all his words
and kind in all his works.
Whereas the KJV only reads:
Thy kingdom is an everlasting kingdom,
and thy dominion endureth throughout all generations.
145 is an alphabetic-acrostic psalm, and that missing verse is the line which begins with the Nun. As the KJV has it, the Hebrew alphabet skips Nun, going from Mem straight to Samekh.
If you looked at dictionary.com online, you would find the meaning of:well is haplograph, greek? cause I can't find it in the english dictionary anywhere. so I may have to get you to translate what haplograph means so I can defend I sam 11!
Sincerely, Ozhap·log·ra·phy
   [hap-log-ruh-fee]
noun
the accidental omission of a letter or letter group that should be repeated in writing, as in Missippi for Mississippi.
well now see I looked up the word at dictionary.com, they gave me but they misspelled it they didn't put the y on the end of it Thank you:
ok hold on a minute, let's save alot of time here now that I understand what haplography is thanks to Oz. again I repeat my disclaimer, it is not an ERROR just because the King James doesn't say what your greek text says: let me explain this disclaimer from scriptures :Also, Psalm 145:13, which I brought up earlier. Another missing verse in the KJV.
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