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Hi everyone. I’m not a Christian, but I became one of my own accord when I was 15. I didn’t get baptized but I fully put my faith in Christ. However, over time I fell down a rabbit hole and eventually came to find myself unable to feel guilt for sins. I think at some point I felt guilt for sins, but I can’t really remember, as I hadn’t realized that guilt for winning was a requirement for repentance. Eventually, I fell out of the faith and became an atheist. However, I’ve always had a fear of hell, and I think that’s the only reason why I’m coming to this forum, rather than guilt for sins, though I know this is not enough for true repentance. I know a genuine and heartfelt disdain for sins is a sign of the holy spirit dwelling in you, since I’m an apostate, it would seem that I’m beyond being given a second chance for salvation, according to Hebrews 6. I made a very foolish decision years ago (I’m 22 now), and now I just want honesty regarding my situation. Can I pray and receive forgiveness, or am I too far gone?

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Yes, you can receive forgiveness and so much more.
You have not fallen so low that God cannot lift you up.

I do see a couple of things in the small amount that you wrote which raise concern but also see some very promising things!
A desire for honesty is a really good sign... pray to God, be honest with Him and remain honest with yourself.
I try to approach God as humbly do... realizing my poverty in oh so many areas of life. I encourage you to do the same and be honest to God about it. If there is confusion in your life, remember that God calls us to learn at His feet. Become a student... not to contend with folks on a social media, but to become the person that God wants you to be. Be humble.

Do pray and pour your heart out to Him.

Psalm 25:8-10 ESV
8 Good and upright is the Lord;
therefore he instructs sinners in the way.
9 He leads the humble in what is right,
and teaches the humble his way.
10 All the paths of the Lord are steadfast love and faithfulness,
for those who keep his covenant and his testimonies.
 
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Hi everyone. I’m not a Christian, but I became one of my own accord when I was 15. I didn’t get baptized but I fully put my faith in Christ. However, over time I fell down a rabbit hole and eventually came to find myself unable to feel guilt for sins. I think at some point I felt guilt for sins, but I can’t really remember, as I hadn’t realized that guilt for winning was a requirement for repentance. Eventually, I fell out of the faith and became an atheist. However, I’ve always had a fear of hell, and I think that’s the only reason why I’m coming to this forum, rather than guilt for sins, though I know this is not enough for true repentance. I know a genuine and heartfelt disdain for sins is a sign of the holy spirit dwelling in you, since I’m an apostate, it would seem that I’m beyond being given a second chance for salvation, according to Hebrews 6. I made a very foolish decision years ago (I’m 22 now), and now I just want honesty regarding my situation. Can I pray and receive forgiveness, or am I too far gone?

Thanks for any guidance you can share
How did you originally come to the faith?
 
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Hi everyone. I’m not a Christian, but I became one of my own accord when I was 15. I didn’t get baptized but I fully put my faith in Christ. However, over time I fell down a rabbit hole and eventually came to find myself unable to feel guilt for sins. I think at some point I felt guilt for sins, but I can’t really remember, as I hadn’t realized that guilt for winning was a requirement for repentance. Eventually, I fell out of the faith and became an atheist. However, I’ve always had a fear of hell, and I think that’s the only reason why I’m coming to this forum, rather than guilt for sins, though I know this is not enough for true repentance. I know a genuine and heartfelt disdain for sins is a sign of the holy spirit dwelling in you, since I’m an apostate, it would seem that I’m beyond being given a second chance for salvation, according to Hebrews 6. I made a very foolish decision years ago (I’m 22 now), and now I just want honesty regarding my situation. Can I pray and receive forgiveness, or am I too far gone?

Thanks for any guidance you can share

Well you're right about Hebrews 6 but there are far too many people who will argue against you on that point for the sake of their tradition.

That out of the way, let's examine Hebrews 6. The writer is speaking in the form of a lecture. Note the beginning:

Heb 6:1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God,

See that he is "leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ" for the sake of the discussion. But in doing so, he re-caps what those elementary principles are. He begins with "repentance from dead works and of faith toward God". He continues:

Heb 6:2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

See for yourself how the writer identifies repentance, faith, baptism, and laying on of hands as "elementary principles". He goes on to the "impossible" part:

Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit,

For someone to fall away into the condition the writer describes one must have repented from dead works, had faith toward God, been baptized, tasted the heavenly gift (meaning the Eucharist), and received the Holy Spirit through the laying on of hands, see Acts 8:14-17. Until you have gone through all of those "elementary principles" you are not yet a Christian. You are usually referred to as a seeker or an inquirer.
 
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Hi everyone. I’m not a Christian, but I became one of my own accord when I was 15. I didn’t get baptized but I fully put my faith in Christ. However, over time I fell down a rabbit hole and eventually came to find myself unable to feel guilt for sins. I think at some point I felt guilt for sins, but I can’t really remember, as I hadn’t realized that guilt for winning was a requirement for repentance. Eventually, I fell out of the faith and became an atheist. However, I’ve always had a fear of hell, and I think that’s the only reason why I’m coming to this forum, rather than guilt for sins, though I know this is not enough for true repentance. I know a genuine and heartfelt disdain for sins is a sign of the holy spirit dwelling in you, since I’m an apostate, it would seem that I’m beyond being given a second chance for salvation, according to Hebrews 6. I made a very foolish decision years ago (I’m 22 now), and now I just want honesty regarding my situation. Can I pray and receive forgiveness, or am I too far gone?

Thanks for any guidance you can share
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I believe your problem is you have been exposed to bad teaching.

You say you put your faith in Christ. So what are you actually saying when you say you put your faith in Christ.

Jesus and other believers in The Bible state. To receive God's free gift of Eternal Life salvation and become a permanent born again child of God and person must believe in Jesus. Which means to believe Jesus is who He says He is. Which is The Promised Messiah/Son of God, the resurrection and the life. This is the name we are to believe about who Jesus is and is the name that gives a person Eternal life salvation. If you believe this then you have become a born again child of God.

Now as a believer to keep fellowship in God's family as a child of God. You need to live a Christ like life as free of sin as you can.
But if you do sin, you do not , not become a child of God, you just get out of fellowship with God. To get back into fellowship with God, you would need to repent of any sins that are causing you to get out of fellowship with God.

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live. And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
She said to Him, “Yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”

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And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.
 
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Hi everyone. I’m not a Christian, but I became one of my own accord when I was 15. I didn’t get baptized but I fully put my faith in Christ. However, over time I fell down a rabbit hole and eventually came to find myself unable to feel guilt for sins. I think at some point I felt guilt for sins, but I can’t really remember, as I hadn’t realized that guilt for winning was a requirement for repentance. Eventually, I fell out of the faith and became an atheist. However, I’ve always had a fear of hell, and I think that’s the only reason why I’m coming to this forum, rather than guilt for sins, though I know this is not enough for true repentance. I know a genuine and heartfelt disdain for sins is a sign of the holy spirit dwelling in you, since I’m an apostate, it would seem that I’m beyond being given a second chance for salvation, according to Hebrews 6. I made a very foolish decision years ago (I’m 22 now), and now I just want honesty regarding my situation. Can I pray and receive forgiveness, or am I too far gone?

Thanks for any guidance you can share
The door of salvation is open until Jesus returns.

We mess up ... God knows that and He is always there to forgive us and help us to overcome or avoid sin (transgression of the law) He is most merciful.

When one truly confesses to the Lord He forgives ... He does not want us to harbor guilt ... our main problem is that we find this hard to believe and satan just loves to make us feel guilty about our past (that we are not worthy of forgiveness)

The only unforgivable is the sin of blasphemy ... and that is choosing to continuously/knowingly live in sin. The Holy Spirit makes us aware of our sin (transgression of the law) and also helps us overcome and/or avoid it.

So the question to ask one self is .... am I progressing? Am I making choices more towards sin or more towards not sinning.

The best way to avoid sin is to avoid temptation ... temptation is of satan. God always provides an escape before sinning. The still small voice in the heart/mind will warn you .... be receptive to it ... take heed to it.

In 1 Corinthians 10:13, we are reminded that no temptation is unique to us. God's faithfulness guarantees that we will never face a temptation that surpasses our ability to resist. With the indwelling Holy Spirit, we have access to the divine power that enables us to withstand the schemes of the enemy ... if we listen and take heed.

When Satan tempts us, he often seeks to exploit our weaknesses, entice our desires, or lead us astray from God's will. However, as believers, we are not left defenseless. The Holy Spirit guides us, convicts us, and empowers us to discern right from wrong. He reminds us of God's truth and provides the strength to stand firm against the enemy's tactics.

The key to resisting temptation lies in our willingness to rely on the power of the Holy Spirit. We must cultivate a sensitive spirit, attuned to His leading and promptings. By spending time in prayer, studying God's Word, and seeking His presence, we become more receptive to the Spirit's guidance and discernment.

You are not too far gone by no means. Accept forgiveness from the Lord and move forward in Him.
 
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Much of living by faith is giving our conscience over to the Lord Jesus Christ as the basis for our thoughts and actions. St. Paul tells us the ultimate state of this in 1 Timothy 1:5. Personally, I don’t see myself getting anywhere near this in life. I do believe most are better than me & do.

It is this living things out by faith where the Lord’s grace saves us ( Ephesians 2:8-10). The Lord says if we love Him, we will keep His commandments ( John 14:15-18).

A basic hope for our own salvation and that of others helps us live out the golden rule ( Matthew 7:12), the great commandments ( Matthew 22:36-40), in prayer ( 1 Timothy 2:1-6, Matthew 6:9-13), & basic charity ( Matthew 6:1-4). Also, see Matthew 19:16-19, Romans 13:8-10, Matthew 9:36-38. Challenges, frustration, sadness etc. face us as we live. Sometimes it is our fault; sometimes it isn’t. Trust in the Lord ( John 16:33). Confess to Him our sins ( 1 John 1:5-10).
 
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Hi everyone. I’m not a Christian, but I became one of my own accord when I was 15. I didn’t get baptized but I fully put my faith in Christ. However, over time I fell down a rabbit hole and eventually came to find myself unable to feel guilt for sins. I think at some point I felt guilt for sins, but I can’t really remember, as I hadn’t realized that guilt for winning was a requirement for repentance. Eventually, I fell out of the faith and became an atheist. However, I’ve always had a fear of hell, and I think that’s the only reason why I’m coming to this forum, rather than guilt for sins, though I know this is not enough for true repentance. I know a genuine and heartfelt disdain for sins is a sign of the holy spirit dwelling in you, since I’m an apostate, it would seem that I’m beyond being given a second chance for salvation, according to Hebrews 6. I made a very foolish decision years ago (I’m 22 now), and now I just want honesty regarding my situation. Can I pray and receive forgiveness, or am I too far gone?

Thanks for any guidance you can share
Hi SM.
Praying to God mean nothing, if you do not have a genuine repentant heart. Isaiah 1:11-16; Proverbs 28:9
Also, wanting to serve God because you fear roasting in hell for eternity. is not beneficial, since if you do not love God, and that is not the reason for serving him, then you will always give in to sin, and not hate it.

This is the reason for where you are right now,
You did not learn about God, so as to come to love him, and you also did not develop a relationship with God.

What you need to do first of all, is be sure that there is a God, because, according to Hebrews 11:6 "he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him".
So, you need to do a thorough investigation, to be certain.

Once you are convinced that God is, next, you need to get to know him, by studying the Bible. John 17:3 It's important to know the truth about God, if you are to serve him acceptably. John 4:24

Once you cover these two steps, you're in a good position to develop a real friendship with God, and maintain it.
This will allow you to pray to God - that is, "approach the throne of grace with confidence" ((Hebrews 4:16), even when you make a mistake and commit a sin. Isaiah 1:18-20
 
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Hi everyone. I’m not a Christian, but I became one of my own accord when I was 15. I didn’t get baptized but I fully put my faith in Christ. However, over time I fell down a rabbit hole and eventually came to find myself unable to feel guilt for sins. I think at some point I felt guilt for sins, but I can’t really remember, as I hadn’t realized that guilt for winning was a requirement for repentance. Eventually, I fell out of the faith and became an atheist. However, I’ve always had a fear of hell, and I think that’s the only reason why I’m coming to this forum, rather than guilt for sins, though I know this is not enough for true repentance. I know a genuine and heartfelt disdain for sins is a sign of the holy spirit dwelling in you, since I’m an apostate, it would seem that I’m beyond being given a second chance for salvation, according to Hebrews 6. I made a very foolish decision years ago (I’m 22 now), and now I just want honesty regarding my situation. Can I pray and receive forgiveness, or am I too far gone?

Thanks for any guidance you can share
Let's discuss Hebrews, and your situation. But first I will lay the groundwork for showing you that you can be forgiven.

1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we change our direction, and come back to God, in confessing that we have sinned, God is faithful, He sticks by us. He is also just. I bet right now you are feeling injustice, of not being able to repent, but that is not God. We will discuss Hebrews 6 in a minute. God is just, justice means we can come to God to be forgiven.

You have wondered away from God, into sin and atheism. But as you confess your wrong doing to God, and return He will receive you.

Jas 5:19-20 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back, let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.

You have for a time been overtaken in trespasses, but:

Gal 6:1 Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, considering yourself lest you also be tempted.

So let's now return to Hebrews 6.

Heb 6:4-6 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

You feel you have "fallen away", but what is it to fall away. The passage says the one falling away has "crucified Christ again". So that must mean the cross is not available to the person. However the reality is the cross is given for a lifetime of sins:

Heb 9:27-28 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many.

Notice what sins the cross actually covers, a lifetime, one righteous life given for a lifetime of sins. So how is it possible to crucify Christ again? The answer is only if one has died in sin then they can be crucifing Christ.

This is backed up by 1 John 5:16

1Jn 5:16 If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.

We see in the scripture that if we see a brother sinning, and yes you have been a brother, are still a brother, but they have not died in their sin, what are we to do? We are to pray for your restoration. God wants you restored. He is just. Only if you commit sin leading to physical death can you no longer be forgiven. THat is what it means to die in sin, to fall away, in that state you would no longer be able to be forgiven. But right now you can be forgiven.
 
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Hi everyone. I’m not a Christian, but I became one of my own accord when I was 15. I didn’t get baptized but I fully put my faith in Christ. However, over time I fell down a rabbit hole and eventually came to find myself unable to feel guilt for sins. I think at some point I felt guilt for sins, but I can’t really remember, as I hadn’t realized that guilt for winning was a requirement for repentance. Eventually, I fell out of the faith and became an atheist. However, I’ve always had a fear of hell, and I think that’s the only reason why I’m coming to this forum, rather than guilt for sins, though I know this is not enough for true repentance. I know a genuine and heartfelt disdain for sins is a sign of the holy spirit dwelling in you, since I’m an apostate, it would seem that I’m beyond being given a second chance for salvation, according to Hebrews 6. I made a very foolish decision years ago (I’m 22 now), and now I just want honesty regarding my situation. Can I pray and receive forgiveness, or am I too far gone?

Thanks for any guidance you can share
Hello. I recognise some of my own struggles in your story. Hell is not one of the beliefs I have retained but I do think that repentance is important and helpful.

I wonder what you're talking about when you use the term 'sins' (you don't need to answer that!)

Would it help to use different language? Do you feel remorse for things you have said or done or thought that you know or believe to have been wrong or harmful?

I'm sure you're in no way too far gone. ❤️ As Poirot said in one of Agatha Christie's novels, "There is nothing in the world so damaged that it cannot be repaired by the hand of the almighty God."
 
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