Better Apple Challenge

[BananaSlug]

I hand you an apple. I tell you I created this apple ex nihilo. What line of reasoning would you use to believe me or not? Should you believe me?

 

[AV1611VET]

I hand you an apple. I tell you I created this apple ex nihilo. What line of reasoning would you use to believe me or not?

My line of reasoning: did the amount of mass/energy in the universe rise accordingly?

If I don't have access to that information, then I would either accept it or reject it -- on faith.

Should you believe me?

Not really -- you only said you did it.

The apple was transferred from your hand to mine; it did not appear out of nowhere into mine.

 

[Split Rock]

My line of reasoning: did the amount of mass/energy in the universe rise accordingly?

If I don't have access to that information, then I would either accept it or reject it -- on faith.

So, would you say the propability that the apple was created ex nihilo was equal to the probablity it was not? Does this simply come down to a personal preference concerning what one wants to believe?

 

[Doveaman]

I hand you an apple. I tell you I created this apple ex nihilo. What line of reasoning would you use to believe me or not? Should you believe me?

It's not possible to come up with a reason to believe you unless you are God. Are you God? Then prove it.

 

[Doveaman]

So, would you say the propability that the apple was created ex nihilo was equal to the probablity it was not?

Nope. I'm saying only God can create such an apple.

Does this simply come down to a personal preference concerning what one wants to believe?

Nope. It comes down to God proving He created the apple. This way I cannot help but to believe He did.

 

[Hespera]

I hand you an apple. I tell you I created this apple ex nihilo. What line of reasoning would you use to believe me or not? Should you believe me?

Do it again. Thats all i ask of any creator who wants to be believed.

 

[Split Rock]

Nope. I'm saying only God can create such an apple.
Nope. It comes down to God proving He created the apple. This way I cannot help but to believe He did.

Show us the proof then.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Is the apple organic?

 

[BananaSlug]

My line of reasoning: did the amount of mass/energy in the universe rise accordingly?

If I don't have access to that information, then I would either accept it or reject it -- on faith.

Would you accept or reject it?

Not really -- you only said you did it.

The apple was transferred from your hand to mine; it did not appear out of nowhere into mine.

So would you accept it considering the description of the event is coming from the original source (me)?

 

[Doveaman]

Show us the proof then.

It is God who shows the proof. He showed me. If He didn't show you then He obviously have a reason. Maybe He hasn't gotten around to you yet. Or maybe He showed you but you were not paying attention.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

It is God who shows the proof. He showed me. If He didn't show you then He obviously have a reason. Maybe He hasn't gotten around to you yet. Or maybe He showed you but you were not paying attention.

Pics, or didn't happen.

 

[Split Rock]

It is God who shows the proof. He showed me. If He didn't show you then He obviously have a reason. Maybe He hasn't gotten around to you yet. Or maybe He showed you but you were not paying attention.

How surprising! You have no "proof," then. So, just as you pretend to not understand what "faith" means you are also pretending to not understand what "proof" is. Typical....

 

[bigbadwilf]

I hand you an apple. I tell you I created this apple ex nihilo. What line of reasoning would you use to believe me or not? Should you believe me?

Having the source code would be a good start.