It seemed like it was more of a non-denominational understanding of: scripture is the authority, but I trust my pastor’s theological training, and the Holy Spirit guiding me towards truth if I hear the pastor saying falsehood in some way/shape/form. Does that make sense?
I’ve had the chance to explain to my friend the difference between Orthodoxy and Protestantism on a macro level. But, I had a hard time when it came to both of our presuppositional authorities: his being scripture and trusting his pastor and using discernment and believing that the Holy Spirit guides him towards truth.
I know protestants whose view of sola scriptura is nearly(!)-indistinguishable from Orthodoxy's view of Scripture and Tradition
Yeah, that’s a good question. ThanksI would ask him where exactly does the Scripture say that.
Yeah, I mean, I posted his view a few responses ago. But, it’s mainly scripture, his pastor (and his pastor’s theological training), and the Holy Spirit that he relies on.I think you have to be more specific with what type of protestant your friend is, and what he really believes when he says Sola Scriptura. I know protestants whose view of sola scriptura is nearly(!)-indistinguishable from Orthodoxy's view of Scripture and Tradition, and other protestants who only care how they interpret the Bible (not even how their pastor or modern-day protestant scholars interpret things)
argue that the Church has the authority to define doctrines that can not be found in Scripture.
Keep them coming. These are very helpful Fr. Matt. Thank you again.the doctrine of the Trinity is not found in Scripture. nowhere does the Scripture say that God is Trinitarian or that God is Three Persons in One Nature.
also, nowhere does the Scripture say that all doctrines must be found in the Scriptures.
I didn’t know that it came from the Muslims.
it is a good question, but one which, when I was a Lutheran, I had a response to. Even supported by a church father quote (though I can't recall who). In essence, Scripture says "whatever does not proceed from faith is sin" and also "faith comes through hearing and hearing through the Word of God" (I'm butchering these quotes, I'm sure). So -- the argument goes -- whatever does not come through the Word of God cannot be a full doctrine of faith, and although you are free to believe it, you cannot hold it against another person if they do not.Yeah, that’s a good question. Thanks
the doctrine of the Trinity is not found in Scripture.
I would respectfully disagree.
And I think I had better bow out of the thread at this point.
I didn’t know that it came from the Muslims.
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