Benny Hinn

[IvanOng]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4t9APdSG30

Please click the above link to view a video(41:30 long) regarding Benny Hinn.....

What's your say on this?

 

[NacDan]

Woot Woot!

 

[tturt]

Haven't watched the clip and don't plan to.

Our thoughts aren't God's thoughts - says so in The Bible. I just wonder if Christians including myself are praying for God's will to be done no matter what ministry we're called.

When we judge it comes right back at us in same measure says so in The Word. For myself, I'm not interested in that. Yes, I believe in discernment and we all need more discernment.

 

[JimB]

Oh, no! Not another Benny Hinn thread.

I’m beginning to feel sorry for the guy.

~Jim

 

[msbojingles]

omigoodness! omigoodness!! Pastor Benny isn't perfect - let's tell the whole world, QUICK!

Gee, I wonder if that wasn't a biased view....

Interesting, when showing the three people that were "healed" of aids, they only mentioned the ONE that still showed HIV positive, no mention of the other two.........

 

[lismore]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4t9APdSG30

Please click the above link to view a video(41:30 long) regarding Benny Hinn.....

What's your say on this?

Thousands get saved and thousands get healed at BH's meetings.

Whats wrong with that?

 

[JimB]

Thousands get saved and thousands get healed at BH's meetings.

Whats wrong with that?

Benny Hinn aside, is numerical success the only test of a minister’s qualifications? The test of a minister’s character has never been in the reported (alleged) success of their “ministry.” Do we include in that number the untabulated (but known to God) thousands who may have been turned away from the truth because a “minister” plays fast and loose with ethics?



~Jim

 

[Jesusong]

What do I think? I'm reminded of what Jesus told us as recorded in Matthew 7:15-23

15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.
16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?
17 Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21 "Not everyone who says to me, `Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me on that day, `Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?'
23 Then I will tell them plainly, `I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'

 

[DIVA_for_Christ]

Haven't watched the clip and don't plan to.

Our thoughts aren't God's thoughts - says so in The Bible. I just wonder if Christians including myself are praying for God's will to be done no matter what ministry we're called.

When we judge it comes right back at us in same measure says so in The Word. For myself, I'm not interested in that. Yes, I believe in discernment and we all need more discernment.

Amen!

 

[probinson]

Phillipians 1:18
But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.
​

This is my standard response to all of the inevitable televangelist threads.

Do some televangelists have wrong motives? Sure. "But what does it matter?"

BTW, I'm not saying that Benny Hinn has wrong motives. I'm just saying that even if he does, "what does it matter?"

 

[~RENEE~]

Mar 9:38 And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbade him, because he followeth not us.
Mar 9:39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
Mar 9:40 For he that is not against us is on our part.

 

[JimB]

Phillipians 1:18​

But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.​

This is my standard response to all of the inevitable televangelist threads.

Do some televangelists have wrong motives? Sure. "But what does it matter?"

BTW, I'm not saying that Benny Hinn has wrong motives. I'm just saying that even if he does, "what does it matter?"

Benny Hinn aside (again) and only speaking in general terms I would say …

Truth matters
Hypocrisy matters
Deception matters
Stumbling blocks matter
Offense matters
Fraud matters

I have no axe to grind with any televangelist or fraudulent preacher in particular, but our standards should be those of Christ. It was, as we should know, the hypocrisy of religious leaders of his day, those who devoured widow’s houses and spiritually abused people, that He aimed His harshest judgments toward. One thing He did not do: He in no way said that what they did and who they were did not matter.

~Jim

 

[s0journ3r]

Benny Hinn aside (again) and only speaking in general terms I would say …

Truth matters
Hypocrisy matters
Deception matters
Stumbling blocks matter
Offense matters
Fraud matters

I have no axe to grind with any televangelist or fraudulent preacher in particular, but our standards should be those of Christ. It was, as we should know, the hypocrisy of religious leaders of his day, those who devoured widow’s houses and spiritually abused people, that He aimed His harshest judgments toward. One thing He did not do: He in no way said that what they did and who they were did not matter.

~Jim

Good post, Jim. I agree. This reminds me of what Paul said:

I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish everyone with tears. (Acts 20:29-31)

For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ. (Phil. 3:18)
​

Paul wasn't cavalier when it came to false teachers.

Yours truly in Christ,
sojourner

 

[probinson]

Benny Hinn aside (again) and only speaking in general terms I would say …

Truth matters
Hypocrisy matters
Deception matters
Stumbling blocks matter
Offense matters
Fraud matters

I have no axe to grind with any televangelist or fraudulent preacher in particular, but our standards should be those of Christ. It was, as we should know, the hypocrisy of religious leaders of his day, those who devoured widow’s houses and spiritually abused people, that He aimed His harshest judgments toward. One thing He did not do: He in no way said that what they did and who they were did not matter.

~Jim

True. But at the same time, Jesus commended the widow who gave her last dime.

How do we know that televangelists are, as you say, "devouring widow's houses" and not that the widow is just giving in faith and obedience to God?

 

[nephilimiyr]

Benny Hinn aside, is numerical success the only test of a minister’s qualifications? The test of a minister’s character has never been in the reported (alleged) success of their “ministry.” Do we include in that number the untabulated (but known to God) thousands who may have been turned away from the truth because a “minister” plays fast and loose with ethics?



~Jim

He's not a minister, he's an evangelist. His main job is to tell people the good news, not to minister.

 

[probinson]

Good post, Jim. I agree. This reminds me of what Paul said:

I know that after my departure fierce wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves will arise men speaking twisted things, to draw away the disciples after them. Therefore be alert, remembering that for three years I did not cease night or day to admonish everyone with tears. (Acts 20:29-31)

For many, of whom I have often told you and now tell you even with tears, walk as enemies of the cross of Christ. (Phil. 3:18)
​

Paul wasn't cavalier when it came to false teachers.

Yours truly in Christ,
sojourner

False teachers and teaching from false motives aren't the same thing.

Ironically, Paul also said that whether Christ is preached from false motives or true, he still rejoiced.

For your premise to be true, you have to presuppose that Benny Hinn (or the televangelist in question) is a false teacher.

 

[nephilimiyr]

Thousands get saved and thousands get healed at BH's meetings.

Whats wrong with that?

And this is the job of an evengelist.

And nothing is wrong with it.

 

[JTM3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4t9APdSG30

Please click the above link to view a video(41:30 long) regarding Benny Hinn.....

What's your say on this?

Good grief.

Ivan, you apparently aren't a regular to the sf/pc boards.

There is such an inane amount of televangelist threads its disgusting.

No one really cares anymore.

Least of all me.

Except those that like to debate.

These threads need to be locked and destroyed on site.

Oh, no! Not another Benny Hinn thread.

I’m beginning to feel sorry for the guy.

~Jim

Took you long enough

Phillipians 1:18​

But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.​

This is my standard response to all of the inevitable televangelist threads.

Do some televangelists have wrong motives? Sure. "But what does it matter?"

BTW, I'm not saying that Benny Hinn has wrong motives. I'm just saying that even if he does, "what does it matter?"

Yeah, that...

 

[s0journ3r]

For your premise to be true, you have to presuppose that Benny Hinn (or the televangelist in question) is a false teacher.

I don't have to presuppose anything, prorobinson. I know he's a false teacher. So, the so-called "false motives" excuse doesn't apply to Benny Hinn. His teaching is false, not just his motives. And that's what people should cry out against if they have any love for the truth & the Church.

Yours truly in Christ,
sojourner

 

[Tenebrae]

Phillipians 1:18
But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.
​

This is my standard response to all of the inevitable televangelist threads.

Do some televangelists have wrong motives? Sure. "But what does it matter?"

BTW, I'm not saying that Benny Hinn has wrong motives. I'm just saying that even if he does, "what does it matter?"

I'm reminded of a movement that is sweeping through the penticostal church at the moment called the new apostolic reformation . Amoung other things, it is shipwrecking the faith of many

Dont know about you, but I wouldnt be too keen to stand before God and admit that I was responsible for causing people to fall away from the faith

We could say a pedophile has wrong motives, but I'm willing to bet none here would allow a pedophile to baby sit their children