Ben Adam?

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Our soul gives birth to a thought like a woman does a child and this is the beginning/end of the meaning of Jesus's words when he looked upon Jerusalem, the soul/bride of Israel, the first born. The seed of the serpent is a scattering or the perception afforded by the woman of the sending forth. Christ is the gathering again unto one through death, but here the mediators become one tree whose leaves heal the nations/children. In this there is no measurement, no separation, time no longer. Jerusalem had to become desolate, without form and void or a virgin to bring forth. The Truth that is being opened in us. This goes pass the son to that which the spirit and the bride say come to ... Father. In him our perception is made clean. It is a river of life, free ... without labor.

 

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I thought it was only the our spirit that would continue on, into ........

The two become one and the increase of the impression of this one/father is forever. A tree of knowledge that becomes a tree of life. But the knowledge of a garden not enclosed is to death. We are just beginning to drink of this river. The narative of Father/Life.

 

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Wow, I understand what your saying, Yeaaa!! LOL. That's what I'm beginning to see myself, all though, This Soul/Woman, I have always only considered her being delivered/saved in this present physical age, but now I'm wondering if the Soul/Woman is saved throuout eternity, to continue on. Is this what is meant by the Bride/Wife of Rev.? The Lambs Wife?

The truth is that, there is no immoral woman and the salvation is the Father's person and the birthing of her children are forever ... if we but catch a glimpse of this in a eternal relationship of the three (father, son, bride) that has no height, width, length, depth ...

This is the process of life and not the process of death, as the two gospels/rivers/sons, one of labor/servant, one of life/son. The perception of the son/law/tree becoming clean.

 

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Well, I disagree, marriage to God is extremely important, and the bed undefiled.
That's why Homosexuality is so wrong, not being Religious, but because of Reproduction.

The Veil that is before the Most Holy place, is a picture of the Hymen in a virgin, entering in beyond the veil, is where conception takes place, and a bringing forth, again, and again. There is nothing "unclean" as you say about this.

This is a Marriage to God. This is where the two become one, this is where intimacy with God is, and in Him it's got nothing to do with carnal things. This is a laying down the flesh, and submission.
Why would Paul say he wanted to present them as chaste virgins unto Christ?

You couldn't be more wrong. First, unnatural relations needs the Perfect Lamb's atoning blood and has nothing to do with the consummating marital bed. As far as the veil before the covenant, it has absolutely nothing to do with the virginal hymen, awaiting thrusting penetration. The veil represents the very closeness of God and His grace to the unrepentant soul.

Your view has been perverted.

 

[2KnowHim]

You couldn't be more wrong. First, unnatural relations needs the Perfect Lamb's atoning blood and has nothing to do with the consummating marital bed. As far as the veil before the covenant, it has absolutely nothing to do with the virginal hymen, awaiting thrusting penetration. The veil represents the very closeness of God and His grace to the unrepentant soul.

Your view has been perverted.

Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Mar 15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. (And there was Blood)
Mar 15:39 And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.
Mar 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;
Mar 15:41 (Who also, when he was in Galilee, followed him, and ministered unto him and many other women which came up with him unto Jerusalem.

Women/Soul

 

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Rom 7:2 For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
Rom 7:3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Rom 7:4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

Mar 15:38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom. (And there was Blood)
Mar 15:39 And when the centurion, which stood over against him, saw that he so cried out, and gave up the ghost, he said, Truly this man was the Son of God.
Mar 15:40 There were also women looking on afar off: among whom was Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the less and of Joses, and Salome;
Mar 15:41 (Who also, when he was in Galilee, followed him, and ministered unto him and many other women which came up with him unto Jerusalem.

Women/Soul

By suggesting that our perfect Savior had relations with Mary Magdalene, you then fall in the same camp as those who say He had a homosexual affair and other such heretic teachings. Doing the unbridled dirty isn't what is meant by "ministered unto him". Your mind is in the proverbial cutter. Please fall on your knees now and pray for forgiveness.

My discussion on this matter is over...

 

[2KnowHim]

By suggesting that our perfect Savior had relations with Mary Magdalene, you then fall in the same camp as those who say He had a homosexual affair and other such heretic teachings. Doing the unbridled dirty isn't what is meant by "ministered unto him". Your mind is in the proverbial cutter. Please fall on your knees now and pray for forgiveness.

My discussion on this matter is over...

Are you out of your mind?
Boy! are you Way off. By no means am I saying that, you do not understand at all what I'm talking about, or why those women are mentioned here do you?

Boy, trying to speak spiritual things to carnal minds is impossible.

 

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Boy, trying to speak spiritual things to carnal minds is impossible.

This is true

 

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The word is spirit and the pen of the scribes turned into a lie, just as the woman/garden not enclosed or clothed upon with spirit saw the tree, that it was pleasant to the eyes, as Lot (veiled) looked at the left hand as the garden of God and David with the woman on the roof, pleasant to look upon but the firstborn of this woman dies. The first river comes out of pleasure.

Nicodemus was not so far off when he said do you have to enter back into to your mother's womb, but he could not see pass flesh/passover/Egypt/outer court, and most can't get pass the blending/pentecost/wilderness/holy place, of the two.

 

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By suggesting that our perfect Savior had relations with Mary Magdalene, you then fall in the same camp as those who say He had a homosexual affair and other such heretic teachings. Doing the unbridled dirty isn't what is meant by "ministered unto him". Your mind is in the proverbial cutter. Please fall on your knees now and pray for forgiveness.

My discussion on this matter is over...

Words are funny ... what we percieve them to be is what they are to us, what you have assumed of her words by the eating of your own tree became an accusation of an enemy, the enemy did not accuse her to me of these things. Her words are clean to me, the devil has no place in me. In him there is no sin and here is where we continunally abide. Sin is a perception of our own making, a Who told you that you were naked.

 

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The word is spirit and the pen of the scribes turned into a lie, just as the woman/garden not enclosed or clothed upon with spirit saw the tree, that it was pleasant to the eyes, as Lot (veiled) looked at the left hand as the garden of God and David with the woman on the roof, pleasant to look upon but the firstborn of this woman dies. The first river comes out of pleasure.

Nicodemus was not so far off when he said do you have to enter back into to your mother's womb, but he could not see pass flesh/passover/Egypt/outer court, and most can't get pass the blending/pentecost/wilderness/holy place, of the two.

woman is not the garden, God is all powerful and so He has adequate power to be certain His incorruptible word isn't defiled by corruptible scribes, the tree and it's physical fruit was pleasing to the eye.

You need to stop assuming God's faithful are stupid. The Holy Spirit is forever keeping us true to God's word and fully aware of scriptural harlotens.

 

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Words are funny ... what we percieve them to be is what they are to us, what you have assumed of her words by the eating of your own tree became an accusation of an enemy, the enemy did not accuse her to me of these things. Her words are clean to me, the devil has no place in me. In him there is no sin and here is where we continunally abide. Sin is a perception of our own making, a Who told you that you were naked.

play with God's words and you will be burned

 

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Son 4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

Jer 31:12 ... and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

The garden, city, mind, soul, vineyard etc, etc, etc, are all pictures of the same thing.

It's not that the scribe was doing something wrong, or not doing the best that they could, it's that those things that testified of Jesus became a path, a letter that killed, vanity, a truth cast down, a path that causes one to fall into a pit.

The word that is life is spirit, not a book of law, but the person of the Son/Christ and this now in us. Jesus' words were one even as he was one with the father. It was judgment he came and God's judgment is always unto life even as he is life, there is no shadow of turning in this, this Love that he is.

When there eyes were opened they became blind, like the Pharisees, they said I see therefore there sin remained.

The God at the beginning of the bible is not my Father but the perception of my father just as the God at the end of the book is not my Father but to what the Spirit and the Bride as one say Come to.

 

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Son 4:12 A garden inclosed is my sister, my spouse; a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.

Jer 31:12 ... and their soul shall be as a watered garden; and they shall not sorrow any more at all.

The garden, city, mind, soul, vineyard etc, etc, etc, are all pictures of the same thing.

It's not that the scribe was doing something wrong, or not doing the best that they could, it's that those things that testified of Jesus became a path, a letter that killed, vanity, a truth cast down, a path that causes one to fall into a pit.

The word that is life is spirit, not a book of law, but the person of the Son/Christ and this now in us. Jesus' words were one even as he was one with the father. It was judgment he came and God's judgment is always unto life even as he is life, there is no shadow of turning in this, this Love that he is.

When there eyes were opened they became blind, like the Pharisees, they said I see therefore there sin remained.

The God at the beginning of the bible is not my Father but the perception of my father just as the God at the end of the book is not my Father but to what the Spirit and the Bride as one say Come to.

Your prattle is more than just annoying, it's even offensive. The Holy Bible is abused daily by so many who wish to pick all manner of verse out of context to make some skewed, off topic remark, as though something mighty was said.

If I say "that rose is the shade of red I've been in search of" and then much later I say "that sweet aroma is reminiscent of a rose, The subject was never the rose, but rather the color red and then the sweet aroma. Focusing on the rose as the topic is bewildering. I hope you learn to stop that.

 

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Sorry I offended you by what I wrote, we can only see what we see. To me all things are summed up in one and he has become this one to me. The Bible is this to me. It testifies only of one and has become one narative to me, a narative of Life. It is by this one that I am being consumed or swallowed up of.

 

[2KnowHim]

Your prattle is more than just annoying, it's even offensive. The Holy Bible is abused daily by so many who wish to pick all manner of verse out of context to make some skewed, off topic remark, as though something mighty was said.

If I say "that rose is the shade of red I've been in search of" and then much later I say "that sweet aroma is reminiscent of a rose, The subject was never the rose, but rather the color red and then the sweet aroma. Focusing on the rose as the topic is bewildering. I hope you learn to stop that.

He can't, the same as I can't, it is the Spirit that leads, it is also The Spirit that interprets the Word, and rightly divides it. UNTIL, .........It becomes ONE IN YOU.

Just like the Word discerns between Soul, and spirit UNTIL there is UNITY between the two. What has been separated should eventually be United in Christ as ONE, the same as He and The Father are ONE.

That's when you will stop seeing after the flesh, and stop warring against the Word of The Spirit. But as long as there is division in you, there will be division you see. The same as Good and Evil, Life and Death, Light and Darkness.

To us it is becoming all the same in God, for to Him there is no difference.
But only will God permit this in you, when He is ready to take you beyond the basic Principles of Christ. Then you will see what we are really talking about.
And that is in no ways saying that your stupid, or anything else the enemy may want you to believe that we are saying against you. We were all there at one time or another, but we all grow, and change in Him. He is a River of Life that is NOT Stagnant EVER. Always moving, and always flowing.

 

[2KnowHim]

Sorry I offended you by what I wrote, we can only see what we see. To me all things are summed up in one and he has become this one to me. The Bible is this to me. It testifies only of one and has become one narative to me, a narative of Life. It is by this one that I am being consumed or swallowed up of.

Beautiful, Absolutely Beautiful.

 

[rdcast]

Sorry I offended you by what I wrote, we can only see what we see. To me all things are summed up in one and he has become this one to me. The Bible is this to me. It testifies only of one and has become one narative to me, a narative of Life. It is by this one that I am being consumed or swallowed up of.

your "one" is an island with no one to witness to.

 

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He can't, the same as I can't, it is the Spirit that leads, it is also The Spirit that interprets the Word, and rightly divides it. UNTIL, .........It becomes ONE IN YOU.

Just like the Word discerns between Soul, and spirit UNTIL there is UNITY between the two. What has been separated should eventually be United in Christ as ONE, the same as He and The Father are ONE.

That's when you will stop seeing after the flesh, and stop warring against the Word of The Spirit. But as long as there is division in you, there will be division you see. The same as Good and Evil, Life and Death, Light and Darkness.

To us it is becoming all the same in God, for to Him there is no difference.
But only will God permit this in you, when He is ready to take you beyond the basic Principles of Christ. Then you will see what we are really talking about.
And that is in no ways saying that your stupid, or anything else the enemy may want you to believe that we are saying against you. We were all there at one time or another, but we all grow, and change in Him. He is a River of Life that is NOT Stagnant EVER. Always moving, and always flowing.

I'll study parables when it comes form God and never from sinful mortals. When sinners, as you are, think that it is good to perplex an issue in the name of God, it becomes painfully obvious who you compete with.

 

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your "one" is an island with no one to witness to.

... There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord, one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Even as there is only one Father, one son, one bride, but yet, we each are a white stone, each unique among the stones or trees of the garden. No man knows us even as no man knew Jesus. No man knows the father except the son and no one knows the son except the father, it is the son who is revealing the father in us. The revelation of the son is the father.

We are all of one.