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Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Adam named his wife Eve after the fall and the commandment was given but one time before the woman came out of the man.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, ...

She ate of her own reasoning seeded by a serpent before she ever touched the tree and became the mother of all living.

Postulate is much to big of a word for me.
 
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Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Adam named his wife Eve after the fall and the commandment was given but one time before the woman came out of the man.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, ...

She ate of her own reasoning seeded by a serpent before she ever touched the tree and became the mother of all living.

Postulate is much to big of a word for me.

Genesis 3 (21st Century King James Version)
3 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, “Yea, hath God said, ‘Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden’?”
2 And the woman said unto the serpent, “We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden,
3 but of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, ‘Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it,lest ye die.’”
4 And the serpent said unto the woman, “Ye shall not surely die;
5 for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”
6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and ate, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he ate.
7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves things to gird about.
8 And they heard the voice of the Lord God, walking in the garden in the cool of the day. And Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord God amongst the trees of the garden.
9 And the Lord God called unto Adam and said unto him, “Where art thou?”
10 And he said, “I heard Thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid because I was naked; and I hid myself.”
11 And He said, “Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?”
12 And the man said, “The woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I ate.”
13 And the Lord God said unto the woman, “What is this that thou hast done?” And the woman said, “The serpent beguiled me, and I ate.”
14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, “Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field. Upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life.
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her Seed; It shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise His heel.”
16 Unto the woman He said, “I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception. In sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.”
17 And unto Adam He said, “Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree of which I commanded thee, saying, ‘Thou shalt not eat of it,’ cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life.
18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee, and thou shalt eat the herb of the field.
19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread till thou return unto the ground, for out of it wast thou taken; for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.”
20 And Adam called his wife’s name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.
21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
22 And the Lord God said, “Behold, the man has become as one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put forth his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat and live for ever”—
23 therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the Garden of Eden to till the ground from whence he was taken.
24 So He drove out the man; and He placed at the east of the Garden of Eden cherubims and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

The woman had no name and was first named Eve once they were placed outside the garden. Because Adam was the first man, the name Adam goes on to classify all sons of man which all men and women are. There was only one person named Adam in the garden.

The serpent gave a half truth concerning them dying the same day they ate of the forbidden tree. What the serpent neglected to point out was that once Adam lost access to the tree of life, his days would be measured by man-days, but Gods promise was based on a God-day which equals a thousand man-years. Adam lived exactly 930 man-years or 93% of one single God-day. God gave Adam the full truth!

The serpent did correctly point out that the wisdom brought by the knowledge of good and evil, is what makes us like God and is what God meant when He said let Us make man in our image. And the tree of life is made perfectly clear, that it provides eternal life.

Last but not least, God cursed the ground. We still live with that curse, but in the book of Revelation, the curse is lifeted at the beginning of the Millennium-Sabbath at the same time the tree of life is returned.
 
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Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

If you understand who this father is, the lie begins to unravel and the abomination that makes desolate that is in the holy place, where it aught not be, becomes light to you, as the one who made all the world a wilderness.

There is a river that the streams thereof make glad the holy place of the tabernacles of the most high God, but it was not the first river as it was not the first man.
 
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Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

Adam named his wife Eve after the fall and the commandment was given but one time before the woman came out of the man.

Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, ...

She ate of her own reasoning seeded by a serpent before she ever touched the tree and became the mother of all living.

Postulate is much to big of a word for me.

:amen:
 
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Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

If you understand who this father is, the lie begins to unravel and the abomination that makes desolate that is in the holy place, where it aught not be, becomes light to you, as the one who made all the world a wilderness.

There is a river that the streams thereof make glad the holy place of the tabernacles of the most high God, but it was not the first river as it was not the first man.

BIIIIIIIGGGG:amen:
 
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Rom 7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law:(Neither would have Adam) for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet. (Neither would have Adam)
Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. (So did it with Adam) For without the law sin was dead.
Rom 7:9 For I was alive without the law once:(So was Adam) but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died. (So did Adam)
Rom 7:10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. (So did Adam)
Rom 7:11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. (So did it with Adam)
Rom 7:12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.
Rom 7:13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.

Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight:


for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

The Tree of Life and The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, might as well be one "TREE" For it is a picture of The Word of God, as a Twoedged Sword.


Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

This is exactly what happened to Adam in The Garden.
As X141 said in their heart they had already departed from Him, eating of the Tree, only made manifest what was already there. (As with us All).
 
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Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

If you understand who this father is, the lie begins to unravel and the abomination that makes desolate that is in the holy place, where it aught not be, becomes light to you, as the one who made all the world a wilderness.

There is a river that the streams thereof make glad the holy place of the tabernacles of the most high God, but it was not the first river as it was not the first man.

This Video is a long one, but I'm enjoying it and thought you might too:
Mysteries of the Garden of Eden - Solving - Decoding the Past and the Bible - YouTube
 
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for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

The Tree of Life and The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, might as well be one "TREE" For it is a picture of The Word of God, as a Twoedged Sword.

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

This is exactly what happened to Adam in The Garden.
As X141 said in their heart they had already departed from Him, eating of the Tree, only made manifest what was already there. (As with us All).

Also described by:
Matthew 5:28 (21st Century King James Version)
But I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
and:
Proverbs 23:7 (21st Century King James Version)
for as he thinketh in his heart, so is he. “Eat and drink,” saith he to thee, but his heart is not with thee.
Entertaining the possibility of the act is the sin, for we :bow:bow-down to Satan by ignoring that it isn't the physical things of this world that should enter into the Kingdom of God, but rather our souls that created its reality without hands.
 
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Also described by:
Matthew 5:28 (21st Century King James Version)
But I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
and:
Proverbs 23:7 (21st Century King James Version)
for as he thinketh in his heart, so is he. “Eat and drink,” saith he to thee, but his heart is not with thee.
Entertaining the possibility of the act is the sin, for we :bow:bow-down to Satan by ignoring that it isn't the physical things of this world that should enter into the Kingdom of God, but rather our souls that created its reality without hands.



I don't understand what your saying here, For the kingdom of God is Within you. His Kingdom is not of this world.

Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

1Jn 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
 
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I don't understand what your saying here, For the kingdom of God is Within you. His Kingdom is not of this world.

Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

1Jn 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

Rephrase: Sin isn't an act, but the perception of that which opposes God's will. Adam never perceived breaking God's command, until he blames his help meet. It is his answer to God with the accusation it was her fault that gains his judgment. Adam becomes aware that by making someone else the evil one, makes him the good one, attempting to distinguish between his good and her evil. Refusing responsibility of guilt/sin is our eternal struggle. Repentance conquers evil. Repentance is the embracing of Christ's righteousness and victory over our carnal and otherwise evil thoughts.
 
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A start ... or an end ... of something to consider, concerning Adam. He named every living creature, he ate of the tree but his nakedness was never exposed. When Sarah laughs Abraham's nakedness is exposed. When Noah plants a vineyard his nakedness is exposed and Canaan (the land/son of promise, like the land of Haran becomes to Terah), becomes as the river Euphrates where in the other three rivers are summed up in the fourth.

The first river comes out of pleasure, the last out of the throne, but all from the belly of a man.
 
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A start ... or an end ... of something to consider, concerning Adam. He named every living creature, he ate of the tree but his nakedness was never exposed. When Sarah laughs Abraham's nakedness is exposed. When Noah plants a vineyard his nakedness is exposed and Canaan (the land/son of promise, like the land of Haran becomes to Terah), becomes as the river Euphrates where in the other three rivers are summed up in the fourth.

The first river comes out of pleasure, the last out of the throne, but all from the belly of a man.

I don't believe God cloaks discussions about sexuality in the least
 
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I don't believe God cloaks discussions about sexuality in the least

Of course He does, He is all about Reproduction, "after their Kind".
The Tabernacle and entering in beyond the veil, but not without Blood, ....that in itself is a picture of a virgin, not to get to technical but I think you can put it together.
 
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A start ... or an end ... of something to consider, concerning Adam. He named every living creature, he ate of the tree but his nakedness was never exposed. When Sarah laughs Abraham's nakedness is exposed. When Noah plants a vineyard his nakedness is exposed and Canaan (the land/son of promise, like the land of Haran becomes to Terah), becomes as the river Euphrates where in the other three rivers are summed up in the fourth.

The first river comes out of pleasure, the last out of the throne, but all from the belly of a man.

I just love reading your post, especially about these rivers.
 
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The woman is a picture of the soul/mother/jerusalem, etc, as the man is a picture of the spirit/son/father, etc. The woman remains the same, but through desolation the perception of her two sons/seeds become one. All things are a picture of this reality of a son becoming clean just as much as the woman is clean when clothed by the man. For Jesus, his son of man was in heaven. This is a reality happening in each of us, a process of time, our perception becoming clean.

In Christ the two are made one, in each of us, even as we are one together as a bride/woman in him. It is a matter of order. There is a sending forth, a point in time and a returning or gathering together again into One/Father from where our captivity first began.

Words written down become so small, a closed heaven rather than for some an open heaven all do to the eating of a tree.
 
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The woman is a picture of the soul/mother/jerusalem, etc, as the man is a picture of the spirit/son/father, etc. The woman remains the same, but through desolation the perception of her two sons/seeds become one. All things are a picture of this reality of a son becoming clean just as much as the woman is clean when clothed by the man. For Jesus, his son of man was in heaven. This is a reality happening in each of us, a process of time, our perception becoming clean.

In Christ the two are made one, in each of us, even as we are one together as a bride/woman in him. It is a matter of order. There is a sending forth, a point in time and a returning or gathering together again into One/Father from where our captivity first began.

Words written down become so small, a closed heaven rather than for some an open heaven all do to the eating of a tree.


Wow, I understand what your saying, Yeaaa!! LOL. That's what I'm beginning to see myself, all though, This Soul/Woman, I have always only considered her being delivered/saved in this present physical age, but now I'm wondering if the Soul/Woman is saved throuout eternity, to continue on. Is this what is meant by the Bride/Wife of Rev.? The Lambs Wife?
 
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Of course He does, He is all about Reproduction, "after their Kind".
The Tabernacle and entering in beyond the veil, but not without Blood, ....that in itself is a picture of a virgin, not to get to technical but I think you can put it together.

The blood of atonement has nothing to do with virginity or affecting the ending of such. Of course, it's not uncommon for unclean innuendo to cloud God's word.
 
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The blood of atonement has nothing to do with virginity or affecting the ending of such. Of course, it's not uncommon for unclean innuendo to cloud God's word.

Well, I disagree, marriage to God is extremely important, and the bed undefiled.
That's why Homosexuality is so wrong, not being Religious, but because of Reproduction.

The Veil that is before the Most Holy place, is a picture of the Hymen in a virgin, entering in beyond the veil, is where conception takes place, and a bringing forth, again, and again. There is nothing "unclean" as you say about this.

This is a Marriage to God. This is where the two become one, this is where intimacy with God is, and in Him it's got nothing to do with carnal things. This is a laying down the flesh, and submission.
Why would Paul say he wanted to present them as chaste virgins unto Christ?
 
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