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ThomasV

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IF YOU BELIVE IN JESUS AS YOUR LORD AND SAVIOR
IF YOU HAVE FAITH WITH AN UPRIGHT HEART IN GOD IN ALL YOU DO
IF YOU LIVE YOUR LIFE BY GODS LAWS AND COMMANDMENTS

IF YOU BELIEVE AND FOLLOW THE SCRIPTURE AND YOUR CHURCH TRADITIONS WITH FAITH THAT IS THE TRUE WAY

THEN I THINK WITH GOD’S LOVING CARE AND SALVATION YOU WILL BE SAVED BUT ONLY GOD KNOWS THAT

BUT IF YOU KNOW THE TRUTH AND IGNORE IT, OR IF YOU HAVE A BURNING DESIRE WITHIN YOU TO FIND THE TRUTH AND YOU CHOSE NOT TO FOLLOW THAT DESIRE,

THEN I BELIEVE YOU WILL BE JUDGE ACCORDINGLY BY GOD
 

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IF YOU BELIEVE AND FOLLOW THE SCRIPTURE AND YOUR CHURCH TRADITIONS WITH FAITH THAT IS THE TRUE WAY

So, if I believed in the Islamic, or Epicopelian, or whatever reliogion or Church Traditions and follow them with faith, that is the true way? No, that is the dictatorship of reletavism and the throne of the AntiChrist. You are in accord with neither Catholic, nor Orthodox Christian beliefs. These two Churches say:

Vatican II said:
Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.336

Orthodox Church Self-definition said:
Few people today know that the Orthodox Church is nothing less than that Church which has preserved untainted the genuine teachings of Jesus Christ, the very teachings delivered to every subsequent generation of believers. These teachings came down the centuries. from the Holy Apostles, explicated and carefully interpreted by their legitimate successors (their disciples and the holy Fathers), traditioned and conserved unaltered by our Eastern Church which is alone able to prove her right to be called "the Orthodox Church."
The divine Founder of the Church, our Lord Jesus Christ, said clearly, "I will build my Church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against Her" (St. Matt xvi, 18). To the Church, He sent the Holy Spirit. The Spirit descended upon the Apostles, the Spirit of Truth (St. John xv, 16f) Who "manifests all things" to Her and guides Her (St. John xvi, 13), protecting Her from error. Indeed, it was to declare this Truth to men that the Lord came into the cosmos, according to His own words (St. John xviii, 31). And Saint Paul confirms this fact in his letter to his pupil, the bishop Timothy, saying that, "the Church of the living God is the ground and pillar of the Truth" (I Tim iii, 15)...Since the TRUTH is given to us once and for all, our task is to assimilate rather than to discover it. We are commanded to confirm ourselves and others in the Truth and thereby bring everyone to the true Faith, Orthodoxy.

Indeed, our Lord Jesus Christ also said:

John 14:6 said:
Jesus saith to him: I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No man cometh to the Father, but by me.

So, merely reading Scriptures and following whatever your Church Traditions (this is so falsely ecumenistic in tone), is not the way. No, the one and only true way is our Lord Jesus Christ. Either He is only found in Orthodoxy, or only found in Catholicism. Choose.
 
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So, merely reading Scriptures and following whatever your Church Traditions (this is so falsely ecumenistic in tone), is not the way. No, the one and only true way is our Lord Jesus Christ. Either He is only found in Orthodoxy, or only found in Catholicism. Choose.

Both.

Orthodoxy.

He can also be found in the Coptic OO and the Protestant Lutheran "church."
 
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838 "The Church knows that she is joined in many ways to the baptized who are honored by the name of Christian, but do not profess the Catholic faith in its entirety or have not preserved unity or communion under the successor of Peter."322 Those "who believe in Christ and have been properly baptized are put in a certain, although imperfect, communion with the Catholic Church."323 With the Orthodox Churches, this communion is so profound "that it lacks little to attain the fullness that would permit a common celebration of the Lord's Eucharist."324

Catechism of the Catholic Church.
http://www.scborromeo.org/ccc.htm
 
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So, if I believed in the Islamic, or Epicopelian, or whatever reliogion or Church Traditions and follow them with faith, that is the true way? No, that is the dictatorship of reletavism and the throne of the AntiChrist. You are in accord with neither Catholic, nor Orthodox Christian beliefs. These two Churches say:





Indeed, our Lord Jesus Christ also said:



So, merely reading Scriptures and following whatever your Church Traditions (this is so falsely ecumenistic in tone), is not the way. No, the one and only true way is our Lord Jesus Christ. Either He is only found in Orthodoxy, or only found in Catholicism. Choose.
Dictatorship of Relativism? Aren't you going a bit too far?
 
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Who? Where? I heard that "I will pray for you"...ahhh. Thomas! Please put me on your prayer list as well. I hereby state, that I will accept, and be overjoyed by anyone who prays for me, no matter the reason or what for. I accepted your statement, Thomas, at face value. Course it is morn for me and on my first cup of java and not looking to critique anything this early. I am rambling now so back to my coffee. Please Thomas, feel free to pray for me and anyone else may join/send up a short prayer as well. :) Yep! Begging for prayers...I am shameless. Ahhhh, there's my cup...

-Peace-
 
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That your Church teaches that it is the only place of Christ, and that the Holy Spirit does not work outside of it. Also, that ecumenism with Catholics is evil, and that our sacraments are empty, and that we are idolaters for adoring a mere piece of bread as it does not become Christ's body and blood for us. Ask on TAW, or check with a priest. They will confirm this for you. It is part of the reason why I did not join Orthodoxy. Even Catholic priests are considered not to be priests at all.
 
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That your Church teaches that it is the only place of Christ, and that the Holy Spirit does not work outside of it. Also, that ecumenism with Catholics is evil, and that our sacraments are empty, and that we are idolaters for adoring a mere piece of bread as it does not become Christ's body and blood for us. Ask on TAW, or check with a priest. They will confirm this for you. It is part of the reason why I did not join Orthodoxy. Even Catholic priests are considered not to be priests at all.

I reject the Filioque.

And besides, I consider the Catholic priesthood valid and the sacrament real.

And my Orthodox priest, Fr. Anthony is a former Catholic.

Orthodoxy will never reject you. :priest:
 
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