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Being saved while believing in a non-physical resurrection?
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<blockquote data-quote="Davidz777" data-source="post: 74405992" data-attributes="member: 319671"><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066">Reads like a misunderstanding. She may consider "spirit" a non-physical condition as there are many that think God and angels exist on another plain of existence simultaneously in another dimension within the same space. An idea I personally tend to reject out of science logic. Jesus didn't get put into a duplicate organic body as what value would there be unless the new body was not subject to decay. Further Jesus himself relates those in Heaven are as spirit however that does not necessarily mean it is some invisible state of non-matter or non-energy as no one knows what spirit might be though we may speculate. </span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066">It is possible that a full body that sort of looks humanoid-like is actually made of totally inorganic matter or energy. One might argue that advanced entities that have long evolved beyond their physical organic bodies might design their inorganic decay free machine bodies into an external form of their ancestral organic species.</span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066">Exodus 25:17>22 and 40:34>38 show God at least in one of his forms to be of a cloud nature, a cloud that could be of a water nature. Also at John 3-5 and 4:13>14 within the Samaritan woman story:</span></span></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066"></span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066">Exodus 40:34-38 Then the cloud covered the tent of meeting, and <strong>the glory of the Lord filled the Tabernacle </strong>... And throughout all their journeys whenever the cloud was taken up from over the tabernacle, the sons of Israel would set out; but if the cloud was not taken up, then they did not set out until the day when it was taken up ... the cloud of the Lord was on the tabernacle by day, and there was fire in it by night...</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066"></span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066">Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is <strong>born of water </strong>and the <strong>Spirit</strong> he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066">Jhn 4:13>14 Jesus answered and said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again;</span></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066">but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to<strong> eternal life</strong>.”</span></span></em></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066"></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="color: #000066">That does tend to indicate directly the nature of spirit involves water, hydrogen dioxide, one of the most common and arguably the most remarkably unique chemical molecule in our universe including an absolute necessity for organic DNA life. And note it does not state born of water then spirit but rather possibly both in some way.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Davidz777, post: 74405992, member: 319671"] [SIZE=4][COLOR=#000066]Reads like a misunderstanding. She may consider "spirit" a non-physical condition as there are many that think God and angels exist on another plain of existence simultaneously in another dimension within the same space. An idea I personally tend to reject out of science logic. Jesus didn't get put into a duplicate organic body as what value would there be unless the new body was not subject to decay. Further Jesus himself relates those in Heaven are as spirit however that does not necessarily mean it is some invisible state of non-matter or non-energy as no one knows what spirit might be though we may speculate. It is possible that a full body that sort of looks humanoid-like is actually made of totally inorganic matter or energy. One might argue that advanced entities that have long evolved beyond their physical organic bodies might design their inorganic decay free machine bodies into an external form of their ancestral organic species. Exodus 25:17>22 and 40:34>38 show God at least in one of his forms to be of a cloud nature, a cloud that could be of a water nature. Also at John 3-5 and 4:13>14 within the Samaritan woman story:[/COLOR][/SIZE] [I][SIZE=4][COLOR=#000066] Exodus 40:34-38 Then the cloud covered the tent of meeting, and [B]the glory of the Lord filled the Tabernacle [/B]... And throughout all their journeys whenever the cloud was taken up from over the tabernacle, the sons of Israel would set out; but if the cloud was not taken up, then they did not set out until the day when it was taken up ... the cloud of the Lord was on the tabernacle by day, and there was fire in it by night... Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is [B]born of water [/B]and the [B]Spirit[/B] he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Jhn 4:13>14 Jesus answered and said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again; but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to[B] eternal life[/B].”[/COLOR][/SIZE][/I] [SIZE=4][COLOR=#000066] That does tend to indicate directly the nature of spirit involves water, hydrogen dioxide, one of the most common and arguably the most remarkably unique chemical molecule in our universe including an absolute necessity for organic DNA life. And note it does not state born of water then spirit but rather possibly both in some way.[/COLOR][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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