Being Condemed For NOTHING!!!

[fallingchristian]

If your raised From the ground up, And everyone You know Tells you that god is bad, And the devil is the way to go, And you Are evil Or whaever... Will you be Condemed? how is that your fault? know one taught you any other way....

 

[LilLamb219]

If your raised From the ground up, And everyone You know Tells you that god is bad, And the devil is the way to go, And you Are evil Or whaever... Will you be Condemed? how is that your fault? know one taught you any other way....

I don't believe God is so weak He couldn't find the way to get His message across to everyone in the world at one point or another.

 

[fallingchristian]

Im sure thats true, But Honestly, If we are so aposed to the devil, Think of it the other way around.... MAby The deivl Is are savoir, And That God is the bad one (not saying thats true) Then Maby where being Condemed Right now.....

 

[Rafael]

The Bible says that nobody is condemned who is in Christ. All one has to do to be in Christ is to ask and believe on His word. He is the light that dispells the darkness, and the day comes when there will be no darkness.

Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

 

[Sketcher]

Im sure thats true, But Honestly, If we are so aposed to the devil, Think of it the other way around.... MAby The deivl Is are savoir, And That God is the bad one (not saying thats true) Then Maby where being Condemed Right now.....

Given my life experience, I highly doubt it.

Satan is out there to steal, kill, and destroy. Jesus comes to give life, and give it to the full. (John 10:10) When I was in high school, a nameless evil was taking my whole life away, driving me into depression, imprisoning me with mental and spiritual oppression. I figured if there was a devil, this must be it. And I was willing to join whatever power in the universe that was opposed to it, no matter who or what it was going to be. I re-tryed Jesus, and He came through powerfully. If He had not, I might have tried Allah or someone else. And it's been long enough that if He was going to screw me over, He would have done so already.

Besides, if the devil is our savior, we would not have to love one another, but only to look out for ourselves. Vengeance would be encouraged. Forgiveness would be discouraged, or at best optional. Society would fall apart, as the devil would just let us destroy ourselves which we can readily do if not for God's intervention. God intervened by giving us the law to teach us, and again by giving us Jesus Christ to die for us and the Holy Spirit to live within us. The devil cannot be our savior, as his fruits are those only a destroyer can bring.

 

[fallingchristian]

not true.... In are bible It says That he is there to destroy...

But In His bible, It hardly mentions god.,..
And says he helps and that you dont harm people... hes a little less forgiving, But Still Belelveable...
I read into a few religions befor went to my confermation/.

Please remember that I am chatholic And love god, im Just thinking about stuff.

 

[Sketcher]

not true.... In are bible It says That he is there to destroy...

Why don't you look up the verse I cited and read it for yourself then. Jesus is going to destroy evil, but He is also going to give life to those that are His. He is gentle and benevolent.

But In His bible, It hardly mentions god.,..
And says he helps and that you dont harm people... hes a little less forgiving, But Still Belelveable...

Why would you want a less forgiving god than the one Christianity offers?

 

[LilLamb219]

But In His bible, It hardly mentions god.,..

To what bible are you referring?

 

[fallingchristian]

satanicchurch.com
Thats a website about it,
I cant find what i was reading befor hand (because I was called to show it, go figure)

But if you look for Satatic Bible, You should find it..

And Again remember, That I am not for the devil... im Just asking quesions.

 

[WashedClean]

If your raised From the ground up, And everyone You know Tells you that god is bad, And the devil is the way to go, And you Are evil Or whaever... Will you be Condemed? how is that your fault? know one taught you any other way....

People are condemned by their own consciences.

 

[fallingchristian]

I hope your right.......

 

[revmalone]

If your raised From the ground up, And everyone You know Tells you that god is bad, And the devil is the way to go, And you Are evil Or whaever... Will you be Condemed? how is that your fault? know one taught you any other way....

Greeting
I really hate to tell you, your excuse just went out the window, by your own words;35. A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
36. But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
37. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

The only thing that condems you is because you have broken Gods Law and the comdeming part is what a person chooses to take, if accepting Jesus Christ is not what a person want to do to be saved Then by there choice they send themselfs to Hell to pay for there own sin, I hope you don't choose it.

This is why Jesus came,
God has Laws and he has given them for all mankind to obey. The 10 Commandments are the Flat line standard to judge good from evil the way God see's the 2. Some may not know what they are so, you need to look at them, and understand them. What will it take for you to be good enough to get into heaven. Lets look at just 3 so you can at least get a answer if your getting in or not.

By the time you get to the end, you will understand why anyone needs a savior.

Ask your self these few little question, give your honest answer, to your self and God. You don't have to tell anyone your answers but God.




Have you ever had a dirty thought about someone before?

yes or no.

Jesus said If you look at another person and lust you've committed Adultery with them in your heart.

Thats Adultery when you do that.

Have you ever told a lie before?

what would call a person telling just one?

A lier, right?

Have you every wanted something someone else had before, but you really didn't need it?

That is called being Covetous. It is said in the Bible the Covetous will not enter in to Heaven.

How did you do so far?

Did you find your self guilty of 1?


In james 2:10 it says if we break just one them we have broken all 10.

So do you think God will see what you see and find you guilty?
According to that when God judges you were do you think you'll go.

Heaven or Hell?

I know some may say heaven, but say it's your day in court, all the evidence has just been shown and even you see that your guilty, .You are given a chance to speak, you say " Your Honor I have heard you were honest and a just and good man, but I believe now that your a very good man and I know your going to let me go , just because of your goodness.

A good judge must punish a Law breaker, just like a murderer, a thief, everyone who breaks any Law set forth by the Goverment, See God must Judge us by the Law he has set forth for us to obey here on the earth.

Do you want to face God and be judged by your works, you have a whole life that will be judged, 1 by 1 he will compaire it beside the standard of his Law, as you see, even you found yourself guilty, and he will find you guilty also.

There is only one hope I can give you, This is why Jesus came, you see you have failed these big time, but every person who was ever born has been guilty of breaking these, all because of Adam and Eve you were cursed in your actions and cursed in your Blood, all makinds blood was tainted from them and passed on to us even before we were born.



This is Why was Jesus different, he was born into this world way different then we were born.

By God placing Jesus Christ into the virgin, was Gods way he would breach the gap caused after Adam and Eve broke Gods first Command.

With Jesus being born like this meant that he would be pure in Blood, he had no earthly father and in his body was a pure form of a Man nature, all by being placed into the Womb by the Holy Spirit.

The 10 Commandments had a hold on man after the curse and no human could live back up to it's standard, all because of the failure of Adam and Eve.

Jesus was able to live all the 10 commandments perfectly because of how he was born and who he was that was born. His Perfect life fullfilled the 10 Commandments, he did what we could not, understand?

When he shed that Blood on the Cross it was the Scarifice that had to be paid to Save us from being Judged according to God's Holy Law.

After fullfilling all the work to save us on that cross he gave up his life and died, but since he was The God Man, perfect in Blood, Perfect in fullfilling all the requirments for victory he raised himself from the dead, went up into heaven, opening the way to heaven thru what he had just done, so that we could go but in order to get in your must go in by Christ alone, nothing but him can save.

Jesus made that way to God , but you have to ask him to Save you in Order to be Saved. Talk to him ask him to teach you the truth he will direct you in every way in this life and he will bring you into his kingdom when this life is over.

Jesus said 3:17. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Ask God to forgive you of your sins, since you understand what Jesus has done and why, just ask him to show you how to follow him

Bro Malone

 

[Stinker]

If your raised From the ground up, And everyone You know Tells you that god is bad, And the devil is the way to go, And you Are evil Or whaever... Will you be Condemed? how is that your fault? know one taught you any other way....

One will be condemned on the day of Judgment if they had the opportunity to accept the Gospel, but instead, rejected it.

If one never had the opportunity to accept it, they will be judged by this:

Romans 2:12-16 (The Message)

The Message (MSG) Copyright © 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2001, 2002 by Eugene H. Peterson





12If you sin without knowing what you're doing, God takes that into account. But if you sin knowing full well what you're doing, that's a different story entirely. 13Merely hearing God's law is a waste of your time if you don't do what he commands. Doing, not hearing, is what makes the difference with God. 14When outsiders who have never heard of God's law follow it more or less by instinct, they confirm its truth by their obedience. 15They show that God's law is not something alien, imposed on us from without, but woven into the very fabric of our creation. There is something deep within them that echoes God's yes and no, right and wrong. 16Their response to God's yes and no will become public knowledge on the day God makes his final decision about every man and woman. The Message from God that I proclaim through Jesus Christ takes into account all these differences.

 

[JRNetwork]

*Agrees with what he said*

Putting it simply, God forgives ignorance.

 

[Rafael]

satanicchurch.com
Thats a website about it,
I cant find what i was reading befor hand (because I was called to show it, go figure)

But if you look for Satatic Bible, You should find it..

And Again remember, That I am not for the devil... im Just asking quesions.

Why would you trust a satanic Bible which is a perversion and opposite to God's truth? We need to study and get into our hearts the truths of God from the real Bible - not the counterfeit. Jesus said that the words He spoke are spirt and life. He can actually speak life into you just by your reading them and then asking for His help in life. Exposing yourself to satan, even just for a short time, is dangerous, as the devil also has power, although not as great as Gods. Be careful as a young person. The things we do in our youth make a big difference on how we live in the future. Believe me. I regret every sin I ever did when I was young, and we all pay a price for sin. Keeping a clear conscience before God is very important, as Jesus died so that we can have a clean conscience once again.

John 6:63 "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

Heb 10:22 let us go right into the presence of God, with true hearts fully trusting him. For our evil consciences have been sprinkled with Christ’s blood to make us clean, and our bodies have been washed with pure water.

 

[JRNetwork]

I agree with the above post, do not trust sites like those, I would just stay away from them completely.

 

[Erock83]

If your raised From the ground up, And everyone You know Tells you that god is bad, And the devil is the way to go, And you Are evil Or whaever... Will you be Condemed? how is that your fault? know one taught you any other way....

Ahh the great beauty of the dichotomy, there is no good answer to this question and nor will there ever be. I wish I could tell you more but it’s a catch 22. The only lesson to be learned here is to know what you believe and never stop researching why you believe it, which includes the ability to understand and logically understand why the other side is correct, because if you don’t you will never have a true understand of what you believe. That is a great questions especially see the fact that you are only 14. Do not view this a road block yet a good thing because you at 14 have asked a questions that most people will never ask and if they do they don’t ask it until its too late or much latter in there life handicapping them in ever finding a good explanation or reasoning to there beliefs. Thanks for the great post my young but inquisitive friend.

 

[JRNetwork]

Ahh the great beauty of the dichotomy, there is no good answer to this question and nor will there ever be. I wish I could tell you more but it’s a catch 22. The only lesson to be learned here is to know what you believe and never stop researching why you believe it, which includes the ability to understand and logically understand why the other side is correct, because if you don’t you will never have a true understand of what you believe. That is a great questions especially see the fact that you are only 14. Do not view this a road block yet a good thing because you at 14 have asked a questions that most people will never ask and if they do they don’t ask it until its too late or much latter in there life handicapping them in ever finding a good explanation or reasoning to there beliefs. Thanks for the great post my young but inquisitive friend.

I think I alraedy answered this, Romans 2:12 states that if you were never exposed to the Gospel, God will take this into account as he judges you, but if you were exposed to the Gospel and rejected it, then God will take this into account as well.

I think that answeres it pretty well. If you've never known of Christ, God will not use that against you, its not your fault. But if you've known of Christ, and REJECTED it, then the Great Judge will give you your fate.

Even after that though, there is hope, The Apocalypse of St. Peter, a book which was left out of the bible since it almost parallels "Revelations", has a part in which St. Peter asks Jesus how can God be merciful but still condemn all these people to an eternity in hell. Jesus says that they will eventually be let out. How long before they are let out though? Maybe a year (hey, a year of extreme pain is alot, remember hitting your shin? Remember how that hurts? That times a million for 365 days in a row) or maybe a trillion years. A trillion years is an eternity (although not a technical eternity). Only Christ knows.

 

[ForumGuy]

Think of it the other way around.... MAby The deivl Is are savoir, And That God is the bad one (not saying thats true) Then Maby where being Condemed Right now.....

An intresting viewpoint, with an obvious hole. The Seven Sins. Satanists believe they are a good thing, that a certain level of Pride, Lust and Wrath are all healthy and natrual. Yet any rationol person can tell you how self destructive these things are, not to mention how bad it would be for society if people practised these things.
Also, met many Satanists? They have no respect for each other, believing those below them our but insects, and they seem to lose a portion of their sanity, and I've often seen them having trouble thinking and typing clearly.
I've felt Satan's prescence trying to drag me down, I felt his malice and hate, and I can see how he trys to run society. Hes not our saviour by any stretch, and don't fall for any of his tricks.
Pray personally to God, sharing even your doubts about him, and he will enlighten you

 

[JRNetwork]

Any sane person will tell you that worshipping someone (or even just befriending someone) who wishes you nothing but harm is not only critically flawed, but extremelly foolish.