Beat weapons into tools

[theotherguy]

I know that a lot of you have wondered how the devil will decieve the world in the final hour. I would of though detecting a phony would be esay with this little test I've come across. Would the devil really be willing to turn all weapons in ploughs?

 

[Brain Damage]

They worship the beast by saying "who can war with him" or "who can fight with him".

At the time of the end when food and water and whatever else will be scarce , it will be every man for himself , and the best way to be able survive will be to join the biggest gang on the planet , THE BEAST.

Show your allegiance and recieve your rations.

Re 13:10 - Show Context He who leads into captivity shall go into captivity; he who kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

 

[bobbichan]

1Jo 2:18 "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time."

Think of the context in which this was written.

The "last time" has been here for 2000 years or so. The devil has been decieving people just has he always has been since the fall of man.

Ecc 1:9 "That which has been is what will be, That which is done is what will be done, And there is nothing new under the sun."

 

[Blissman]

I doubt that weapons will ever be turned in to anything. I also think it foolish to eliminate weapons of mass destruction. Getting them out of the hands of people who would be willing to use them offensively, yes. But they must be there. The safest WPD is nuclear. I would wish that germ or chemical be eliminated, and be replaced by nuclear. Both germ and chemical are to easy to be thought of as a conventional weapon. No one wins in a nuclear war, and countries who have them know that. They are not so foolish as to end all wars by war. No, everyone wants 'the game to go on'. The problem is that there are nations who do not have the nuclear weapon and so repace it with germ or chemical warfare - which is so easy to think of as a more powerful conventional weapon. If nations were to give up our big WMD, we would still continue to kill one another, just as we had been doing for centuries before WMD, and just as happens today using knives, clubs, fists, or holding someone under water until they drown. Weapons do not kill. Man chooses to kill. We have free will. We choose. Likewise we should blame the drug pusher. If I were selling drugs, and I had said to you, "I will pay you 100 dollars to take my addictive drug". Except for someone born addicted, or forced to take a drug, you would choose to put a drug in to your own body. If we eliminated drug pushers someone would use inhalants to get high (which they do). We will always have a drug problem as long as people are willing to put drugs or poisons in to their own bodies. If the antichrist found some way to eliminate weapons, we would still kill one another.We will have peace only if we obey God, we are in heaven, until Christ returns, or by an act of God. Until then we have ourselves, and Christ. If we choose not to obey God, here on earth will we still have wars, murder, injustice, and every sin we do. Jesus will forgive us for our sins, but will still sin.

 

[theotherguy]

True

 

[StAnselm]

I doubt that weapons will ever be turned in to anything.

Well, that's exactly what will happen in the age to come:

In the last days the mountain of the LORD's temple will be established as chief among the mountains; it will be raised above the hills, and all nations will stream to it.

He will judge between the nations and will settle disputes for many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning hooks. Nation will not take up sword against nation, nor will they train for war anymore.

 

[Blissman]

Christ forgives us for our sins but forgiveness does not prevent us from sinning. Man is sinful by knowing of good and evil. We have free will, and choose to, or are deceived in to sinning. Satan will not help us from ourselves, rather he will exploit our weakness.
War is mass murder, organized sinning. In war there is more than murder. There is often torture, there is theft, and there and there is rape. If by some power, Satan had stopped wars, do you think that this would end all sins? Man murders, steals, rapes, and all sorts of horrors without war. Satan would have to save man from sinning to affect us, and surely Satan will not prevent us from sinning. We must choose to follow the Lord's ordainces, to love Fod and our fellow man. Christ forgives us for our sins but He also ordains that we not sin.

Rev 20:13

13The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.

Rev 22:12

12"Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.


Rev 21:8
8But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

Clearly, Christ's forgiveness of our sins is not a 'meal ticket' to freely sin, but rather a forgiveness of our imperfection of sinfulness by birth.

 

[mysteryman]

herein are some good points but you are still under God's Law. "not a jot or tittle of the law will be removed", and as we learned of Jesus and his life you cleary understood that those laws he referred to are the pac 10 by Moses, because occasionallly he repeats a few while speaking, but we know that it inferred all 10._______ Even Paul did speak of the 10 and so did James as in the laws of liberty,____________--move into Revelation and cleary understand that you are judged by your works and there will be seperation beween those who cannot contain and those who refrain form sin actions.________________ hear carefully, what the Spirit says to all religions of the World. Hence addressing all governments. Though your christian faith gets it's stamp of approval from the Gov instituition so there are also irregualrities of the Good Word being spoken from the Pulpit. Read and hear, do not be swayed by the false premises put forth by the boys from above.___________ those mountains of oil will too burn, and be counted amongst the sick.