Be not Deceived

[BigChrisfilm]

Big Chris I don’t claim to be or not to be anything.

The Lord tells me what to say and I pass it on. Now for some people that makes me a prophet. For me I am nothing more than a messenger delivering a message. If you happen to question the message then I strongly suggest you go and ask him who sent it and get His clarification.

Gracebkr – There are a lot of people who do not attend any church for a lot of different reasons. As far as celebrating a lie why would you want to after realizing that they are lies of the devil?

I got tired of all of the Satan worship in the churches. There were time I learned more about the powers men gave Satan then I did about the Lord and what powers we have over Satan and all of the unclean spirits. I go to church to worship my Father God with other believers and not to worship Satan.

You are more than welcome to join me on the Sabbath every week and get in worship over the internet. Yes I hold the Sabbath and yes it starts at sundown on Friday and lasts until sundown on Saturday. We are learning about forgiveness and prayer and fasting right now.

And no I am not the “Leader” there is only one who is able to fill that post and he is the Holy Spirit. We simply get prayed up and Praised up as we worship the Lord and share whatever it is the Lord is telling us. It can get very intense at times. There are a lot of tears and crying. Loud shouts of PRAISE THE LORD, singing and dancing and stuff like that.

We always start out on Friday just before sundown putting our petitions before the Lord. That is when we ask him for healings, help with friends and family, or whatever else is bothering us. Then we enter into worship by praising Him and thanking him for answering our prayers and then we start with the praise reports and that is when we really start to get praised up. Once we are praised up we get crazy as we dance and sing and weep and just get with the Lord in the Holy of Holies. This can last hours or all day. If you have speakers I have about 8 hours of praise and worship songs that some of us sing alone with and dance to. Others come in, place their requests before the Lord and then go off to do their own thing.

If this sounds like something you might be interested in by all means let me know so I can fill you in on the rest of it. Like how we get together and when.

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I don't like the whole, I am a prophet thing, but if you think God is talking to you, that's cool. But remember, it's like the first strike when someone says they are a prophet of God. Too many reason to not believe someone that says that. I would be interested in hearing you explain some more about Halloween and Christmas, as I also understand they are pagan. I know that the RCC created Christmas, but there are a whole lot of interesting tidbits, like Easter for example. The Bunny and egg representing the regeneration of the earth, not the ressurection of Jesus. Also, your church sounds very Charismatic Movement to me, but I am just going off what you said in your post. Please explain if you don't agree.

 

[BigChrisfilm]

Man is the laziest creature living on this planet. Men strive to create massive machines and extremely complex devices to make their lives easier. The least amount of effort involved in doing any task and men are satisfied. That is until someone designs a device what requires even less effort on their part.

Like the grasses of the field they are easily swayed by whatever breeze just happens to be blowing across the field at any given time.

Like sheep they are constantly butting heads and arguing with each other. However put a Judas Goat among them and they will follow the goat to their deaths.

A lie is designed to deceive. A lie no matter how elaborate it may become it is still a lie. A lie no matter how long it has been around and is accepted by the majority of people is still a lie. A lie is sin and will always lead the ultimate destruction in the Lake of Fire.

Satan is the prince of lies. He does not know how to do anything else. Satan also uses the laziness of men to deceive them. Satan has placed Judas Goats in the midst of the masses to lead them like sheep to their total and utter destruction. And like sheep men and women flock to them in droves following them wherever they may go.

Satan know that people are very gullible and that if you add a title to a person’s name like Doctor or Reverend or father that most people will accept whatever that person has to say. He even compounds titles to be even more impressive like the Reverend Doctor So-and-so.

Satan know that if he is able to create a lie that no matter if a person believe all of the lie or a very small part of the lie they are just as doomed to be tossed into the Lake of Fire.

Satan also know that when a person is called as a prophet that most people will attack them. The vast majority of people do not want to hear what the Lord is trying to tell them. They say we don’t need the prophets we have the Reverend Doctor So-and-so and Father So-and-so or this Pastor or that Preacher and the Bible and we do not believe God sends us prophets.

The vast majority of people are Children of the Darkness. They love the Darkness as they feel safe living in the darkness. The darkness hides the evil that they hold to in their hearts. They are able to hide in the darkness and are concealed by the darkness. The last thing they want is a prophet shining a light on them exposing them for whom and what they are. Children of the Darkness.

The reason people don't except everyone that comes along claiming to be a prophet, is because most of the time, they are not. They lead people to their deaths, and into false doctrines. Infact, people believe others to be prophets all the time. So you are wrong to say that no one excepts prophets. Two of the Worlds most dangerous religions started because of "prophets" Islam and Mormonism. You have to realize that now a days, everyone and their mother think they are a prophet. Although none of them want to prove it, of course. God said that if a prophet says one thing that does not come to pass, he is not a prophet, but he is of the devil. Would you be willing to put yourself to that test?

 

[BigChrisfilm]

It is not who I am or claim to be. It is what Yeshua has already done. It is not anything I have done or that I may be planning to do. It is who Yeshua is.

There is NO OTHER name given to men by which they must be saved.

Praise the name of the Lord Yeshua for he alone is worthy to receive our honor and our praise and HE ALONE.

NONE OTHER ! ! ! ! !

Yeshua said, “I am the Way the Truth and the Life. No man comes unto the Father but by me.”

Yeshua was born in September during Sukkot (Boothes/Tabernacles) in 4 B.C. and he was crucified, died and was buried on the First Day of Passover 33 ½ years later. Yeshua rose again from the dead on the Third Day of Passover.

Anything other that those simple facts are a lie of Satan designed to deceive the masses.

Yeshua translated from Hebrew into Greek, then into Latin and finally into English in the Old Testament is Joshua. So if Yeshua is translated into Joshua in the Old Testament then where did we get the word Jesus from? Yeshua is a Hebrew who taught the Jews in their native language Hebrew. So that means that the New testament was also translated from the Original Hebrew into Greek then into Latin (Nope the Romans didn’t know Greek any better than the Jews did either) then in the mid 14th century it was translated from Latin into English.

Is it possible that the word Jesus like Christmas and Easter is another lie of the church, a church that is controlled totally and completely by its father Satan?

If you as an individual are the only True Church then to whom do you pay your tithes? Just think about it. You are God’s Storehouse so when you give God’s money to Satan whom are you really robbing?

If God the Father lives in your house with you and goes to your job with you and God goes to the store with you and to the bar with you where do you worship Him?

I have heard some of the Yeshua shouldn't ever be translated Jesus, and I would like to learn some more about this. Please, explain to us the origins of the name Jesus, and why they translated it Jesus Christ, instead of leaving it the way it was supposed to be. Should be interesting.

 

[BigChrisfilm]

Theophorus – That is great.

I have the one true God and my Brother Yeshua and His Holy Spirit and if you have any problems with any part of the message I strongly suggest you get before my Heavenly Father and take it up with him. If you can convince My Heavenly Father that you are right and he is wrong then WOW. I mean he only created heaven and Earth and everything in the Earth. I mean he says I am that I am. So if you really feel you are able to stand before him and tell Him he is wrong than more power to you. Now that I have got to see. So I’ll be waiting there with Yeshua, David, Mosses, Joshua and all of the other Saints in the Holy of Holies waiting for you to tell God off.

What do you mean by Yeshua (Jesus) is your Brother?

 

[L3g3nd]

What do you mean by Yeshua (Jesus) is your Brother?

Hebrews 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth, and they who are sanctified, are all of one. For which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, saying: 12 I will declare thy name to my brethren; in the midst of the church will I praise thee.


Every Christian has Christ as his Brother.

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

I have heard some of the Yeshua shouldn't ever be translated Jesus, and I would like to learn some more about this. Please, explain to us the origins of the name Jesus, and why they translated it Jesus Christ, instead of leaving it the way it was supposed to be. Should be interesting.

this article should help immensely

http://www.seekgod.ca/htwhatsinaname.htm

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

Hebrews 2:11 For both he that sanctifieth, and they who are sanctified, are all of one. For which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren, saying: 12 I will declare thy name to my brethren; in the midst of the church will I praise thee.


Every Christian has Christ as his Brother.

There is also this text:

Mat 12:48 But answering, He said to the one speaking to Him, Who is My mother? And who are My brothers? 49 And stretching out His hand to His disciples, He said, Behold, My mother and My brothers. 50 For whoever does the will of My Father in Heaven, that one is My brother and sister and mother.

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

I agree with a lot of what you are saying. I don't like the whole, I am a prophet thing, but if you think God is talking to you, that's cool. But remember, it's like the first strike when someone says they are a prophet of God. Too many reason to not believe someone that says that. I would be interested in hearing you explain some more about Halloween and Christmas, as I also understand they are pagan. I know that the RCC created Christmas, but there are a whole lot of interesting tidbits, like Easter for example. The Bunny and egg representing the regeneration of the earth, not the ressurection of Jesus. Also, your church sounds very Charismatic Movement to me, but I am just going off what you said in your post. Please explain if you don't agree.

You would be better off to google info on halloween and christmas and easter and get the truth. His perspective is going to be biased and watch what you read - there is a lot of Hebrew Roots stuff out there that gives incorrect information. and yes, his stuff is very charismatic/pentecostal/word of faith - lots of prophetic stuff and prophets a dime a dozen - there are 1000s of them all proclaiming to have a word from the "Lord" or vision, or dream or whatever. Funny though, they all contradict each other and the Bible .......

caveat emptor

 

[Giver]

You would be better off to google info on halloween and christmas and easter and get the truth. His perspective is going to be biased and watch what you read - there is a lot of Hebrew Roots stuff out there that gives incorrect information. and yes, his stuff is very charismatic/pentecostal/word of faith - lots of prophetic stuff and prophets a dime a dozen - there are 1000s of them all proclaiming to have a word from the "Lord" or vision, or dream or whatever. Funny though, they all contradict each other and the Bible .......

caveat emptor

How do you know how many prophets there are, and how do you know they all contradict one another?

 

[Giver]

Man is the laziest creature living on this planet. Men strive to create massive machines and extremely complex devices to make their lives easier. The least amount of effort involved in doing any task and men are satisfied. That is until someone designs a device what requires even less effort on their part.

Like the grasses of the field they are easily swayed by whatever breeze just happens to be blowing across the field at any given time.

Like sheep they are constantly butting heads and arguing with each other. However put a Judas Goat among them and they will follow the goat to their deaths.

A lie is designed to deceive. A lie no matter how elaborate it may become it is still a lie. A lie no matter how long it has been around and is accepted by the majority of people is still a lie. A lie is sin and will always lead the ultimate destruction in the Lake of Fire.

Satan is the prince of lies. He does not know how to do anything else. Satan also uses the laziness of men to deceive them. Satan has placed Judas Goats in the midst of the masses to lead them like sheep to their total and utter destruction. And like sheep men and women flock to them in droves following them wherever they may go.

Satan know that people are very gullible and that if you add a title to a person’s name like Doctor or Reverend or father that most people will accept whatever that person has to say. He even compounds titles to be even more impressive like the Reverend Doctor So-and-so.

Satan know that if he is able to create a lie that no matter if a person believe all of the lie or a very small part of the lie they are just as doomed to be tossed into the Lake of Fire.

Satan also know that when a person is called as a prophet that most people will attack them. The vast majority of people do not want to hear what the Lord is trying to tell them. They say we don’t need the prophets we have the Reverend Doctor So-and-so and Father So-and-so or this Pastor or that Preacher and the Bible and we do not believe God sends us prophets.

The vast majority of people are Children of the Darkness. They love the Darkness as they feel safe living in the darkness. The darkness hides the evil that they hold to in their hearts. They are able to hide in the darkness and are concealed by the darkness. The last thing they want is a prophet shining a light on them exposing them for whom and what they are. Children of the Darkness.

I have a question: what difference does it make how I pronounce the Son of God’s name? I have been calling him Jesus for over sixty years and he hasn’t once corrected me, and always still answers me.

Now if people use Christmas and Easter as an excuse to come together and praise God what is the harm in that? Most people, I believe, know that Jesus wasn’t born on the twenty-fifth of December and Easter is just another day that was picked to remember Jesus resurrection, so why do you think it is so important for God to have you tell everyone what you say.

 

[gracebkr]

Easter was not "picked". Jesus was crucified on Passover. So that is why we have Easter when we do. I don't think knowing Jesus died on Passover, and us celebrating when He came back on the third day of Passover is the devil. Christmas was chosen for a very simple reason. The Pagans loved their holidays and would not accept change well. So they chose Christmas during the winter solstice to get more people involved without having to give up one of their favorite past times. It is not some big planned scheme to get the little sheep to follow. I am with Giver on the name of my Lord Jesus Christ as well. As well of the rest of his comments. If people are thinking of God and only God and celebrating these days genuinely, who is anyone to judge that? God knows what is in our hearts.

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

How do you know how many prophets there are, and how do you know they all contradict one another?

I was part of the movement at one time - every church has dozens of them. The net is full of them - 100s of websites. the forums are overflowing with them. take a look at some of the threads in the charis-pentecostal-word of faith sections - inundated with them. most people in the charis venue think they are a prophet - and has a word for everyone else. most preachers in that whole camp all speak words over their congregants - that is prophecy [so to speak]. TBN runs this stuff 24/7 as well.

there are between 500-600 million charis people world wide, not including the ones who are not members of a church or denomination. they all believe that prophecy and tongues are the only way to prove that God is on the move - and signs and wonders.

having been part of the scene for about 7 years and reading/watching everything I could get my hands on, all I see is contradictions. the entire movement is built on feelings and emotions in order to "experience" God. This is so not in His Word.

to prove my point - find me any dream, vision, or word from the Lord from these so called prophets and I can prove to you right quick that they contradict Scripture.

 

[Giver]

I was part of the movement at one time - every church has dozens of them. The net is full of them - 100s of websites. the forums are overflowing with them. take a look at some of the threads in the charis-pentecostal-word of faith sections - inundated with them. most people in the charis venue think they are a prophet - and has a word for everyone else. most preachers in that whole camp all speak words over their congregants - that is prophecy [so to speak]. TBN runs this stuff 24/7 as well.

there are between 500-600 million charis people world wide, not including the ones who are not members of a church or denomination. they all believe that prophecy and tongues are the only way to prove that God is on the move - and signs and wonders.

having been part of the scene for about 7 years and reading/watching everything I could get my hands on, all I see is contradictions. the entire movement is built on feelings and emotions in order to "experience" God. This is so not in His Word.

to prove my point - find me any dream, vision, or word from the Lord from these so called prophets and I can prove to you right quick that they contradict Scripture.

Well what you say doesn’t sound like you have researched thousands of prophets, and found them all to contradict each other. What it sounds like is that you have had some bad experiences with people who say they are or maybe they are, Spirit filled.

Jesus has told me he is God that the Bible is his Word, and a time was coming soon when man would suffer more than he has ever suffered. I was to give a word and leave. Out of that word a community would grow. He wanted a place of safety for his people.

I was also told by the Holy Spirit to tell people that no matter who tells them anything about God they were to ask Jesus if it was right or wrong.

Now you go a head and prove right quick that I have contradicted scripture.

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

Well what you say doesn’t sound like you have researched thousands of prophets, and found them all to contradict each other. What it sounds like is that you have had some bad experiences with people who say they are or maybe they are, Spirit filled.

Jesus has told me he is God that the Bible is his Word, and a time was coming soon when man would suffer more than he has ever suffered. I was to give a word and leave. Out of that word a community would grow. He wanted a place of safety for his people.

I was also told by the Holy Spirit to tell people that no matter who tells them anything about God they were to ask Jesus if it was right or wrong.

Now you go a head and prove right quick that I have contradicted scripture.

There is no scripture to support that by telling people they will suffer more than they have ever suffered - that a community will grow on that foundation. Safety is in Jesus, not in a community.

The assembly *was* built on Christ and the Apostles - Jesus being the Corner stone = salvation in the Name of Jesus Christ.

You don't need to ask Jesus what is right and wrong - everything He wanted us to know is in His written Word about walking in the Spirit versus walking in the flesh, and what is sin or not.

ps: I have heard, seen, read 1000s of visions, dreams, words over the last 5 years - my emails are flooded with them as well.

 

[Giver]

There is no scripture to support that by telling people they will suffer more than they have ever suffered - that a community will grow on that foundation. Safety is in Jesus, not in a community.

The assembly *was* built on Christ and the Apostles - Jesus being the Corner stone = salvation in the Name of Jesus Christ.

You don't need to ask Jesus what is right and wrong - everything He wanted us to know is in His written Word about walking in the Spirit versus walking in the flesh, and what is sin or not.

ps: I have heard, seen, read 1000s of visions, dreams, words over the last 5 years - my emails are flooded with them as well.

Most of what you have written is your opinion, and I thought you said that you would show contradiction of the Word of God.

By the way yes the Bible is the Word of God and Jesus is referred to as the Word of God, so going to the Bible when people tell us anything about God is part of the answer. You should also see that Jesus is personally available to answer question about some mistranslations or misunderstandings of the written Word.

By the way you should see that community of Christians believers is a wonderful place of safety for the people of God. (Acts 2:44-45) “The faithful all lived together and owned everything in common; they sold their goods and possessions and shared out the proceeds among themselves according to what each one needed.”

(Acts 4:32) “The whole group of believers was united, heart and soul; no one claimed for his own use anything that he had, as everything they owned was held in common.”

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

There is no scripture to support that by telling people they will suffer more than they have ever suffered - that a community will grow on that foundation. Safety is in Jesus, not in a community.

The assembly *was* built on Christ and the Apostles - Jesus being the Corner stone = salvation in the Name of Jesus Christ.

You don't need to ask Jesus what is right and wrong - everything He wanted us to know is in His written Word about walking in the Spirit versus walking in the flesh, and what is sin or not.

ps: I have heard, seen, read 1000s of visions, dreams, words over the last 5 years - my emails are flooded with them as well.

Most of what you have written is your opinion, and I thought you said that you would show contradiction of the Word of God.

By the way yes the Bible is the Word of God and Jesus is referred to as the Word of God, so going to the Bible when people tell us anything about God is part of the answer. You should also see that Jesus is personally available to answer question about some mistranslations or misunderstandings of the written Word.

By the way you should see that community of Christians believers is a wonderful place of safety for the people of God. (Acts 2:44-45) “The faithful all lived together and owned everything in common; they sold their goods and possessions and shared out the proceeds among themselves according to what each one needed.”

(Acts 4:32) “The whole group of believers was united, heart and soul; no one claimed for his own use anything that he had, as everything they owned was held in common.”

I did show scripture - the assembly is built on Jesus and the Apostles - Jesus is the Cornerstone [Eph 2]. If you don't know the Word, then how can you be a prophet?

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Jesus is available in His written Word - the B I B L E. we cannot depend on a voice for truth. a voice leads people into deception.
As Jesus said - *IF* you stay in MY WORD, you shall have the truth and the truth shall set you free". "My Word" = B I B L E

I don't see what the believers having all things in common and united have to do with safety

 

[Giver]

I did show scripture - the assembly is built on Jesus and the Apostles - Jesus is the Cornerstone [Eph 2]. If you don't know the Word, then how can you be a prophet?

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Jesus is available in His written Word - the B I B L E. we cannot depend on a voice for truth. a voice leads people into deception.
As Jesus said - *IF* you stay in MY WORD, you shall have the truth and the truth shall set you free". "My Word" = B I B L E

I don't see what the believers having all things in common and united have to do with safety

I don’t know what voice you are listening to, but the voice I’m listening to is Jesus, and he would never lead me astray.
(John 10:16) “And there are other sheep I have that are not of this fold, and these I have to lead as well. They too will listen to my voice, and there will be only one flock, and one shepherd.” (John 10:27) “The sheep that belong to me listen to my voice; I know them and they follow me.”

Doesn’t that make you wonder? Those who haven’t heard and listened to his voice; do they belong to him?

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

I don’t know what voice you are listening to, but the voice I’m listening to is Jesus, and he would never lead me astray.
(John 10:16) “And there are other sheep I have that are not of this fold, and these I have to lead as well. They too will listen to my voice, and there will be only one flock, and one shepherd.” (John 10:27) “The sheep that belong to me listen to my voice; I know them and they follow me.”

Doesn’t that make you wonder? Those who haven’t heard and listened to his voice; do they belong to him?

whatever you hear has to in the Bible - that is testing the Spirits

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

there is a spirit from the other side whose name is Jesus as well. you had better do a hedge check, cause the voice you are hearing is not the "real deal".

so far - what you have said that Jesus has told you is not in the Bible.

you are aware that God will lead people into deception and tell them what they want to hear - because they have no love of the Truth?

2 Thess 2:11,12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

still curious about my question regarding safety and the verses you quoted. thanx

ps: if you are serious about knowing why I believe what I do, then I am more than happy to show you how I was in the same movement you are in and how I came out of it. I also believed that Jesus talks to everyone. When you hold the voice as having more authority than the Word - when you seek to hear the voice more than you want the truth - you will be deceived by a voice that sounds like God, feels like God, but is a seducing spirit. How do I know this? because it happened to me - and Paul said that satan would be transformed into an angel of light - which means there will be a bit of truth wrapping deception. That makes the truth unclean and contaminated.

 

[Giver]

whatever you hear has to in the Bible - that is testing the Spirits

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

there is a spirit from the other side whose name is Jesus as well. you had better do a hedge check, cause the voice you are hearing is not the "real deal".

so far - what you have said that Jesus has told you is not in the Bible.

you are aware that God will lead people into deception and tell them what they want to hear - because they have no love of the Truth?

2 Thess 2:11,12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

still curious about my question regarding safety and the verses you quoted. thanx

ps: if you are serious about knowing why I believe what I do, then I am more than happy to show you how I was in the same movement you are in and how I came out of it. I also believed that Jesus talks to everyone. When you hold the voice as having more authority than the Word - when you seek to hear the voice more than you want the truth - you will be deceived by a voice that sounds like God, feels like God, but is a seducing spirit. How do I know this? because it happened to me - and Paul said that satan would be transformed into an angel of light - which means there will be a bit of truth wrapping deception. That makes the truth unclean and contaminated.

By the way I am not in any movement. I hate to say this, but you seem very judgmental and bitter.

If I am hearing Satan’s voice than Satan is into healing babies who were blind, people with cancer, and into teaching people to live the Word of God. Also; is leading people into a sinless life full of love.


Now I believe in judging a tree by it’s fruit, should you not do the same?

 

[BigChrisfilm]

Well what you say doesn’t sound like you have researched thousands of prophets, and found them all to contradict each other. What it sounds like is that you have had some bad experiences with people who say they are or maybe they are, Spirit filled.

Jesus has told me he is God that the Bible is his Word, and a time was coming soon when man would suffer more than he has ever suffered. I was to give a word and leave. Out of that word a community would grow. He wanted a place of safety for his people.

I was also told by the Holy Spirit to tell people that no matter who tells them anything about God they were to ask Jesus if it was right or wrong.

Now you go a head and prove right quick that I have contradicted scripture.

Ok, I will solve this problem real quick. Not once in Scripture is it told that us believers are to go ask Jesus if something is true or not. Be very careful when asking God something like that. I asked him something like that once, and I would never ask him again. My experience is that you will have an experience, but you might not like it. BTW, have you asked Jesus if the Book of Mormon is true? You know, the Mormons say the exact same thing you say. Just ask Jesus if it's true! Than you get some kind of warm feeling, and you know it's true. Sorry, but this is the way demons mascarade as angels of light. You don't trust you emotions, nor your feelings, and you had better check what "Jesus" told you with scripture, because if it contradicts, it's not from God.