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Peter tells us to be holy, as he who calls us is holy.

(CLV) 1Pt 1:15
but, according as He Who calls you is holy, you also become holy in all behavior,

Where is Peter getting this?

He's getting it from the Torah. YHWH himself told us this.

(CLV) Lv 19:2
Speak to the whole congregation of the sons of Israel, and you will say to them: Holy shall you become, for I am holy, Yahweh your Elohim.

YHWH then goes on to explain how to be holy.

(CLV) Lv 19:3
Each of you shall fear his mother and his father, and you shall observe My sabbaths: I, Yahweh, am your Elohim.
 

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but, according as He Who calls you is holy, you also become holy in all behavior,
15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;
[G391] anastrophe=interaction with others, conversation, behavior, conduct.
Ephesians 4:
22
That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful desires;
23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbor: for we are members one of another.
26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27 Neither give place to the devil.
28 Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labor, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needs.

29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamor, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

Personal holiness is made most evident by the
words that precede from the mouth.

Matthew 12:
33
Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit. 34 Brood of vipers! How can you, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

Romans 6:
18
Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

2 Corinthians 7:1 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

He's getting it from the Torah. YHWH himself told us this.
Of course it is in the Torah. The question is now
"is it in your heart, and on your lips".
Only by abiding in the Holy Spirit.

1 Thessalonians 4
:
3 For this is the will of God, your sanctification:
that you should abstain from sexual immorality;
4 that each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor,
5
not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God;
6 that no one should take advantage of and defraud his brother in this matter, because the Lord is the avenger of all such, as we also forewarned you and testified.
7 For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness.
8 Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit.

Holiness and Righteousness by abiding in
the promised Holy Spirit

John 15:
7
If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.
8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness
is sown in peace by those who make peace.
Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance forever.

Holiness and Righteousness are "known associates".
Luke 1:
74 To grant us that we,
Being delivered from the hand of our enemies,
Might serve Him without fear,
75 In holiness and righteousness before Him
all the days of our life.


 
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Of course it is in the Torah. The question is now
"is it in your heart, and on your lips".

I did start this thread. Does that count as my lips?

7 For God did not call us to uncleanness, but in holiness.
8 Therefore he who rejects this does not reject man, but God, who has also given us His Holy Spirit.

Uncleaness? What does YHWH tell us about that?

(CLV) Lv 11:4
Only this is what you may not eat of those bringing up the cud or bisecting the hoof: the camel (for it is bringing up the cud yet is not bisecting the hoof; it is unclean for you),

(CLV) Lv 11:5
the coney (for it is bringing up the cud yet is not bisecting the hoof; it is unclean for you),

(CLV) Lv 11:6
the hare (for it is bringing up the cud +yet does not bisect the hoof; it is unclean for you),

(CLV) Lv 11:7
and the boar (for it is bisecting the hoof and is cleaving the cleft of the hoof, yet it is not stirring up the cud; it is unclean for you).

(CLV) Lv 11:8
Of their flesh you may not eat, and their carcass you may not touch; they are unclean for you.


No piggy on my lips.
 
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I did start this thread. Does that count as my lips?
Is that really the question?
Mark 7:6 He answered and said to them, Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.

No piggy on my lips.
You are not far from the kingdom of heaven.
No piggy in heaven.

Mark 7:
20
And He said, What comes out of a man,
that defiles a man.
21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornication, murders,
22 thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness.

23 All these evil things come from within and defile a man.

For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth good things, and an evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth evil things. 36 But I say to you that for every idle word men may speak, they will give account of it in the day of judgment. 37 For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

 
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Mark 7:6 He answered and said to them, Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written:
This people honors Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.

Are you suggesting that YHWH's Torah isn't on my heart?

You are not far from the kingdom of heaven.
No piggy in heaven.

It would seem to be so.

(CLV) Isa 66:15
For behold, Yahweh, with fire shall He come, And His chariots like a sweeping whirlwind, To bring back His anger with fury, And His rebuke with blazes of fire.

(CLV) Isa 66:16
For with fire Yahweh shall come to judge, And with His sword upon all flesh; And Yahweh's slain will be multitudinous.

(CLV) Isa 66:17
Those who sanctify themselves And who cleansed themselves for the gardens, going after one in their midst, Eating the flesh of swine and the abominable thing and the rodent, They shall be swept up together, averring is Yahweh;

(CLV) Ga 5:19
Now apparent are the works of the flesh, which are adultery, prostitution, uncleanness, wantonness,

(CLV) Ga 5:20
idolatry, enchantment, enmities, strife, jealousies, furies, factions, dissensions, sects,

(CLV) Ga 5:21
envies, murders, drunkennesses, revelries, and the like of these, which, I am predicting to you, according as I predicted also, that those committing such things shall not be enjoying the allotment of the kingdom of God.



Yahshua calls us to repentance.
 
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Are you suggesting that YHWH's Torah isn't on my heart?
I have no idea, that is the point. Only the Spirit
knows the heart. Making your boast in the Law
doesn't make it so, only by the fruit of the Spirit.

Luke 16:
14
Now the Pharisees, who were lovers of money,
also heard all these things, and they derided Him.
15 And He said to them, You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God.

Galatians 2:21 I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law,
then Christ died in vain.

Claiming to keep Torah, observe the Sabbath,
abstaining from eating unclean foods, knowing
Hebrew or an ancient alphabet is not justification,
righteousness, sanctification or the wisdom from above.

Holiness and Righteousness is by abiding in the promised Holy Spirit:
John 15:
7 If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you.

8 By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness

is sown in peace by those who make peace.
Isaiah 32:17 And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance forever.

1 Corinthians 1:
27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

29 That no flesh should glory in his presence.

30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

31 That, according as it is written,
He that glories, let him glory in the Lord.

 
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Only the Spirit
knows the heart.

Scripture refutes that.

Jeremiah 17:10 ESV / 81 helpful votes

“I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.”

Hebrews 4:12 ESV / 32 helpful votes

For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

The Law (Torah) is the Word of Elohim.



(CLV) Ja 1:22
Now become doers of the word, and not only listeners, beguiling yourselves.

(CLV) Ja 1:23
For if anyone is a listener to the word and not a doer, this one simulates a man considering the face he inherited in a mirror;

(CLV) Ja 1:24
for he considers himself and has come away, and immediately forgot what kind he was.

(CLV) Ja 1:25
Now he who peers into the perfect law, that of freedom, and abides, not becoming a forgetful listener, but a doer of the work, this one will be happy in his doing.

Making your boast in the Law
That's a very insulting statement.

Can we get back on topic now? In case you were not aware of it; I'm not the topic of this thread.


I don't believe that Yahshua was telling us to boast when he told us this:

(CLV) Mt 28:19
Going, then, disciple all the nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,

(CLV) Mt 28:20
teaching them to be keeping all, whatever I direct you. And lo! I am with you all the days till the conclusion of the eon! Amen!"

I can draw a distinction between teaching and boasting.
 
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Claiming to keep Torah, observe the Sabbath,
abstaining from eating unclean foods, knowing
Hebrew or an ancient alphabet is not justification,
righteousness,

(CLV) Dt 6:24
Then Yahweh instructed us to do all these statutes, to fear Yahweh our Elohim for our good all the days so as to keep us alive, as it is this day.

(CLV) Dt 6:25
So it shall come to be righteousness for us when we observe to do all this instruction before Yahweh our Elohim, just as He had enjoined on us.

sanctification

Do you know what sanctification is?

The answer is in the tread title.

You can get more detail by reading more of Leviticus.
 
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“I the Lord search the heart and test the mind, to give every man according to his ways, according to the fruit of his deeds.”
1 Corinthians 3:
16
Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.
 
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Do you know what sanctification is?
The answer is in the tread title.
And yet the thread makes no mention
of the role of the Holy Spirit!

2 Thessalonians 2:
13
But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God has from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Thereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

1 Peter 1:2
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
 
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1 Corinthians 3:
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Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.

(CLV) Ja 1:25
Now he who peers into the perfect law, that of freedom, and abides, not becoming a forgetful listener, but a doer of the work, this one will be happy in his doing.
 
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And yet the thread makes no mention
of the role of the Holy Spirit!

That's a topic for another thread.

This thread is about behavior and YHWH's instructions.
 
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Peter tells us to be holy, as he who calls us is holy.

(CLV) 1Pt 1:15
but, according as He Who calls you is holy, you also become holy in all behavior,

Where is Peter getting this?

He's getting it from the Torah. YHWH himself told us this.

(CLV) Lv 19:2
Speak to the whole congregation of the sons of Israel, and you will say to them: Holy shall you become, for I am holy, Yahweh your Elohim.

YHWH then goes on to explain how to be holy.

(CLV) Lv 19:3
Each of you shall fear his mother and his father, and you shall observe My sabbaths: I, Yahweh, am your Elohim.
according to the text in Leviticus another way to be holy (v20) is if you have sex with your slave who is promised to another, because she is just a slave, you can offer a ram for atonement and the sin will be forgiven. the inference of course is if she isn't promised to another then no wrongdoing has happened. This may also be quite disturbing for the corrupt wealthy who have many rams to spare.

still another way to be holy (v27) is not to cut the hair at the sides of your head or square the edges of your beard.

broadly the text is under a context of sacrificial offerings with specific instructions how offerings should be conducted. We seem free to label those instructions as "not for us" but yet cling to other failing to see how inconsistent that approach is.

Leviticus 19 has some very contextualized boundaries in it, ones that we do not value today, in some form have recontextualized or it is viewed as complete through Christ (such as the sacrificial system). Ancient Israel needed strict rules to address holiness, but we know in the end the observance of the rules did not make them holy as no physical act we can accomplish can ever change our spiritual state (1 Cor 1:30, Titus 3:5). There is no critical thinking in these set lists, it's laid out, as is, and you either follow it and are judged holy, or don't follow it and are judged unholy.

This method is a pile of regulations that needs to be kept but they do not address the heart and can be exploited, plus are contextually based with time and place (see above). on the other hand complete freedom creates anarchy and it can be quickly led astray since it has no guidance. So Jesus presents a heuristic approach by simply saying love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, and soul and love your neighbor as yourself breaking free from all the regulations bound with it under the old. This allows us to critically think and carefully weigh our actions rather than check a box in a checklist. We keep the letter of Christ and are guided by the spirit, who is the law written upon our hearts (2 Cor 3:3), and the outcome is then from our heart (not checks on a checklist)

This approach has greater freedom in its methodology which allows it to be more universal in its approach and not bound by cultural barriers which the law is (1 Cor 9:19-23) but it is not unguided, undisciplined, or even without law (we are under Christ's law 1 Cor 9:21) and we are slaves instead to our mission under Christ. What we keep is the law and letter of Christ, not of stone or ink but rather the spirit of the living God upon our hearts. This is not a set list, it is fluid and dynamic allowing us to communicate and show the glory of God to all peoples of the earth in ways that will excite and create passion in them, not just to a specific race and culture over 2000 years ago.
 
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And yet the thread makes no mention
of the role of the Holy Spirit!
Do you really believe that Yhwh is not set apart, holy, perfect, righteous, true ?
Do you really believe that Yahshua is not set apart, holy , perfect, righteous , true ?
 
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1 Corinthians 3:
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Nevertheless when one turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away.
17 Now the Lord is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
John 4:24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.
Oh, look.
Who is the Spirit ?
 
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holy, set apart , wind of yhvh, breath of yhvh
Now he who peers into the perfect law, that of freedom, and abides, not becoming a forgetful listener, but a doer of the work, this one will be happy in his doing.
(CLV) Dt 6:24
Then Yahweh instructed us to do all these statutes, to fear Yahweh our Elohim for our good all the days so as to keep us alive, as it is this day.

(CLV) Dt 6:25
So it shall come to be righteousness for us when we observe to do all this instruction before Yahweh our Elohim, just as He had enjoined on us.
(CLV) 1Pt 1:15
but, according as He Who calls you is holy, you also become holy in all behavior,

Where is Peter getting this?

He's getting it from the Torah. YHWH himself told us this.

(CLV) Lv 19:2
Speak to the whole congregation of the sons of Israel, and you will say to them: Holy shall you become, for I am holy, Yahweh your Elohim.
 
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according to the text in Leviticus another way to be holy (v20) is if you have sex with your slave who is promised to another, because she is just a slave, you can offer a ram for atonement and the sin will be forgiven. the inference of course is if she isn't promised to another then no wrongdoing has happened. This may also be quite disturbing for the corrupt wealthy who have many rams to spare.

still another way to be holy (v27) is not to cut the hair at the sides of your head or square the edges of your beard.

broadly the text is under a context of sacrificial offerings with specific instructions how offerings should be conducted. We seem free to label those instructions as "not for us" but yet cling to other failing to see how inconsistent that approach is.
(CLV) Hb 10:26
For at our sinning voluntarily after obtaining the recognition of the truth, it is no longer leaving a sacrifice concerned with sins,

(CLV) Hb 10:27
but a certain fearful waiting for judging and fiery jealousy, about to be eating the hostile.

(CLV) Hb 10:28
Anyone repudiating Moses' law is dying without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

(CLV) Hb 10:29
Of how much worse punishment, are you supposing, will he be counted worthy who tramples on the Son of God, and deems the blood of the covenant by which he is hallowed contaminating, and outrages the spirit of grace?

This is a reflection of the TaNaK.
 
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(CLV) Hb 10:26
For at our sinning voluntarily after obtaining the recognition of the truth, it is no longer leaving a sacrifice concerned with sins,

(CLV) Hb 10:27
but a certain fearful waiting for judging and fiery jealousy, about to be eating the hostile.

(CLV) Hb 10:28
Anyone repudiating Moses' law is dying without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

(CLV) Hb 10:29
Of how much worse punishment, are you supposing, will he be counted worthy who tramples on the Son of God, and deems the blood of the covenant by which he is hallowed contaminating, and outrages the spirit of grace?

This is a reflection of the TaNaK.
These are a bunch of verses using an obscure version with no commentary. I don't know your point until you make it.
 
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