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Be fruitful and multiply, replenish and subdue.

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"And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it," Gen 1:28.

Genesis is very condensed. God creates the whole universe in 32 verses. Here we have five words in the ancient Hebrew: "fruitful", "multiply", "replenish", "earth", "subdue". First God "blessed" them and then God "said" onto them. There is no suggestion of an Angry God, in fact we are told that: "it was VERY Good". Exceedingly abundantly good. Of course we know later on the story of the serpent. But for now everything was good, they were to be fruitful, multiply, replenish the earth and subdue it. Replenish is a interesting word for the translators to use because it more then suggests that there was something here before. To subdue the earth becomes qualified when the rest of the verse says: " and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." Then we are told: "I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." So God has given us food to eat. Not animals as they tell me I am to eat plants. Whole grain, whole food plants. Although later on Moses does allow a little bit of meat and they say some fish is good.

Later on in Deu 31 6 we are told: "Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, He it is that doth go with thee; He will not fail thee, nor forsake thee." So we know that God is with us and that He will not abandon us or forsake us. Only it is our job to make sure we do not abandon or forsake God. He walks with us as we subdue the earth and we are to walk with Him.

Genesis is very, very condensed. Hundreds of thousands of books talk about what we read here in these 32 verses. Still we are told God blessed than and said to be fruitful, multiply replenish the earth, subdue it. This is what we are told to do. He gives us food to eat and later on we are told that He will be with us and He will not leave us or forsake us.
 

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How does a discussion of Genesis, belong in the science forum?
Are you serious? What does science talk about that is NOT in Genesis 1? As I said there are 32 verses in the Bible dealing with creation and it takes hundreds of thousands of science books to explain those 32 verses.
 
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Are you serious? What does science talk about that is NOT in Genesis 1? As I said there are 32 verses in the Bible dealing with creation and it takes hundreds of thousands of science books to explain those 32 verses.

The better question would be, what does Genesis talk about that would be considered science?
 
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The better question would be, what does Genesis talk about that would be considered science?
God created science and God gave us the Bible. It all comes from God.

"To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind." Ecc 2 26

There would be no science if God did not give wisdom, knowledge and understanding. This is what makes us human, you do not see monkeys sitting around contemplating evolution. Science can not even tell us the difference between a monkey and a human. They can not tell us what makes us human, at least not using your evolutionary theory.
 
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God created science and God gave us the Bible. It all comes from God.

"To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind." Ecc 2 26

There would be no science if God did not give wisdom, knowledge and understanding. This is what makes us human, you do not see monkeys sitting around contemplating evolution. Science can not even tell us the difference between a monkey and a human. They can not tell us what makes us human, at least not using your evolutionary theory.

Modern science did not exist, when the bible was written.

Which is why, the bible is not a science book.
 
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Modern science did not exist, when the bible was written.

Which is why, the bible is not a science book.
Science has been around longer then the Bible. Science was around long before Moses came along. Science was around before Abraham came along. What God did was He gave Abraham and Moses the ability to separate the truth from the false. That is why the Bible is still as true today as it was back when it was written.
 
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Science has been around longer then the Bible. Science was around long before Moses came along. Science was around before Abraham came along. What God did was He gave Abraham and Moses the ability to separate the truth from the false. That is why the Bible is still as true today as it was back when it was written.

Well, you believe that then.
 
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Well, you believe that then.
Religion gives me something to believe. Science has pretty much always been a big disappointment for me. That maybe hard for you to understand because your in an area that gets good results, but that is more the exception then the norm.
 
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Religion gives me something to believe. Science has pretty much always been a big disappointment for me. That maybe hard for you to understand because your in an area that gets good results, but that is more the exception then the norm.

I would speak for yourself, in regards to what is the exception, or the norm.
 
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I would speak for yourself, in regards to what is the exception, or the norm.
Everyone has their own opinion about it. My opinion is that science can not deliver on what they say they can deliver on. They make a lot of claims but they do not always have the substance to back it up. I have more respect for something like NASA that is able to deliver on some of the things they say they can deliver on.
 
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Everyone has their own opinion about it. My opinion is that science can not deliver on what they say they can deliver on. They make a lot of claims but they do not always have the substance to back it up. I have more respect for something like NASA that is able to deliver on some of the things they say they can deliver on.

Cool, that is your opinion.
 
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God created science and God gave us the Bible. It all comes from God.

"To the person who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but to the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind." Ecc 2 26

There would be no science if God did not give wisdom, knowledge and understanding. This is what makes us human, you do not see monkeys sitting around contemplating evolution. Science can not even tell us the difference between a monkey and a human. They can not tell us what makes us human, at least not using your evolutionary theory.

Science can not explain the difference between a monkey and a human?

I would recommend, you pay closer attention.
 
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I would recommend, you pay closer attention.
That is the problem is I am a glutton for detail. It is not just the monkey, science does not have a clue as to why man is different from all the other species.
 
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That is the problem is I am a glutton for detail. It is not just the monkey, science does not have a clue as to why man is different from all the other species.

I tend to think, you love detail that supports your faith belief.

What you are asking for is out there, you just don't like it.
 
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