Basics about Calvinist/Arminian Debate

[DfromGRCHS]

Hey, whats up guys, i'm new to this forum and first and formost i wish i had known about this a long time ago. What a great way to get information and discuss the most important thing in my life??? I'd like to start off by saying hi to everyone.

Ok, i've got a question. I'm doing a debate about the Calvinist/Arminian debate for my religion class, and i was wondering if anyone has any information about the basic debate. I am on the Calvinist "side" for the debate, but would love any information from either group. Just like to say thanks again for any help.

Dan

 

[Rafael]

Big big topic of debate. There are many degrees of Calvinism. Hyper Calvinism approaches fatalism, in my view of opinion, and can be as dogmatic as any tradition. God's sovereignty cannot be questioned, of course, but I see men projecting their own brand of holiness upon God when they step too far in defining why and how God created man. We don't understand the power God has in omniscience while we are trapped in the linear stream of time we experience. How He can direct the path of man while we throw the dice? He sees beginning to end at the same moment while in eternity, and can therefore plan and use evil to work good, as the scripture does say that ALL things work together for good to those that love God and are the called according to His purpose (Rom. 8:28). God sees those that love Him and those that reject Him before they are born and knows which are to be vessels of honor and dishonor. How can I explain such power? Well, I can barely imagine it, but we do know some of the properties of time, space, matter, and thought, and are even beginning to identify by mathematics the theory of multiple dimensions. We know God inhabits them, but we also know that we do not physically inhabit eternity. Spiritually, we are with Christ in His kingdom, but the physical manifestation of that promised kingdom has not occured here.
I am basically Calvinist myself, but will probably be soon bombed for saying what I've said. Acknowledging God's right to do as He pleases in His sovereign will doesn't necessarily give us a right to define His will, and often that is what I see man doing - putting God in the box of their limited perspective and tying it up with a pretty bow for effect. God had special and interesting things in mind when He created man and then put a devil in the garden with him, and I don't think it was for creating robots. My opinion, of course.

Proverbs 16:33 We may throw the dice, but the Lord determines how they fall.

Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

 

[Serapha]

Hey, whats up guys, i'm new to this forum and first and formost i wish i had known about this a long time ago. What a great way to get information and discuss the most important thing in my life??? I'd like to start off by saying hi to everyone.

Ok, i've got a question. I'm doing a debate about the Calvinist/Arminian debate for my religion class, and i was wondering if anyone has any information about the basic debate. I am on the Calvinist "side" for the debate, but would love any information from either group. Just like to say thanks again for any help.

Dan

Hi there!



for basics,


http://www.apologeticsindex.org/c69.html


~serapha~

 

[Yitzchak]

Hey, whats up guys, i'm new to this forum and first and formost i wish i had known about this a long time ago. What a great way to get information and discuss the most important thing in my life??? I'd like to start off by saying hi to everyone.

Ok, i've got a question. I'm doing a debate about the Calvinist/Arminian debate for my religion class, and i was wondering if anyone has any information about the basic debate. I am on the Calvinist "side" for the debate, but would love any information from either group. Just like to say thanks again for any help.

Dan

There is an acronymn which has been traditionally used to define five major differences between the two views.
TULIP-
1. Total Depravity
2. Unconditional Election
3. Limited Atonement
4. Irresistable Grace
5. Perserverance Of The Saints

It will be difficult for you to debate the subject and leave this out since this has traditionally framed the makor issues of the debate ofr centuries.
There is a thread in the protestant forum titled "peeling the TULIP " which I am sure will give you much valuable information.

 

[theseed]

Do a word search on CF. the formal debates in IDD, would be best.