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My friend Tammy has given me permission to use her study from scripture on baptism:

1. WHAT BLESSINGS DO WE RECEIVE FROM GOD IN BAPTISM?

1 Peter 3:20-21. … in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it a few people, eight in all, were saved through water — and this water symbolizes Baptism that now saves you also.

Colossians 2:11-12. In Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with Him in Baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

Romans 6:3-10. Or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into His death? Therefore we have been buried with Him through Baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we too might walk in newness of life. For if we have become united with Him in the likeness of His death, certainly we shall also be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; for he who has died is freed from sin. Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.

* Note: These passages from Colossians and Romans are summarized well by Dr. Lowell Green: “Baptism is the retroactive participation in the work of Good Friday and Easter Sunday — even better, it is incorporation into the body of the risen and ascended Savior ...”

Galatians 3:27. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ.

Eph. 5:26. Christ loved the church and gave Himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by the washing with water through the word.

Titus 3:5. He saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit.

Corinthians 12:13. For by one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink of one Spirit.

1 Corinthians 6:11. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

Acts 22:16. And now what are you waiting for? Get up, be baptized and wash your sins away, calling on his name.

Acts 2:37-39. Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself."

Mark 16:16. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

* Note: In these passages, the Word of God associates Baptism with dying and rising with Christ, being clothed with Christ, being cleansed and made holy by Christ, having sins washed away, receiving the Holy Spirit, being regenerated (reborn) and renewed, receiving the forgiveness of sins, and being saved.


2. WHO IS TO BE BAPTIZED?

Matthew 28:19-20. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.

Mark 16:15-16. And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.



2. Acts 2:37-39. Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself."

* Note: The burden of proof lies on those who would choose to deny God’s gift of Baptism to an entire class of people.


3. ARE THERE ANY INDICATIONS IN THE BIBLE THAT INFANTS WERE BAPTIZED?

Colossians 2:11-12. In Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ, having been buried with Him in Baptism, in which you were also raised up with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.

* Note: Circumcision was a rite associated almost exclusively with infants (eight days old). It would be odd to refer to Baptism as the “circumcision of Christ” if Baptism of infants was to be forbidden while circumcision was given almost exclusively to infants. (Note also that infants did receive Jewish proselyte baptism.)

Acts 2:37-39. Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, "Brothers, what shall we do?" And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself."

Acts 16:14-15. One of those listening was a woman named Lydia, a dealer in purple cloth from the city of Thyatira, who was a worshiper of God. The Lord opened her heart to respond to Paul's message. When she and the members of her household were baptized, she invited us to her home.

1 Corinthians 1:16. Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas.

Acts 16:33. And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household.

* Note: Households included all members of the family (which usually included extended family) as well as servants and their families. For this reason, it would be unlikely that none of the households referred to above included a baby.

* Note: There is very strong historical evidence that Infant Baptism has been the common practice of the Christian Church since the first century of the Christian era, and was almost entirely unopposed until the 1500’s. For more information, see http://www.issuesetc.org/resource/journals/kastens.htm. Historical information from outside the Bible does not prove what is right, but humility would suggest that we should think twice before concluding that the whole Christian Church got it wrong for about one and a half millennia — especially when it is seen that a strong Biblical case can be made for infant Baptism.


4. ARE INFANTS IN NEED OF THE BLESSINGS THAT BAPTISM GIVES?

Psalm 51:5. Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.

Ecclesiastes 7:20. For there is not a just man on earth who does good and does not sin.

Romans 3:20. For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

John 3:6. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.



3. Romans 8:7. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot.

Ephesians 2:1. And you were dead in your trespasses and sins.


5. ARE INFANTS CAPABLE OF RECEIVING GOD’S BLESSINGS?

Luke 1:15. For he [John the Baptist] will be great in the sight of the Lord; and he will drink no wine or liquor, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit while yet in his mother's womb.

Luke 1:41-44. When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit. And she cried out with a loud voice and said, 'Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! And how has it happened to me, that the mother of my Lord would come to me? For behold, when the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby leaped in my womb for joy.'"

* John the Baptist is an example of the Holy Spirit being active in an infant. Since Baptism is associated with receiving the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38), this indicates that infants can receive this benefit of Baptism. We are not to deny this gift to children, but are to bring them to Him for this blessing.

Luke 18:15-17. And they were bringing even their babies to Him so that He would touch them, but when the disciples saw it, they began rebuking them. But Jesus called for them, saying, 'Permit the children to come to Me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child will not enter it at all.''

* Note: The Greek word translated “babies” in this passage (brephe) referred to children in the womb and newborns. These were babies, not older children.

* Note: Our Lord Jesus clearly states that infants can receive the kingdom of God. Since they were sinful from conception, and because that which is born of the flesh is flesh (which is hostile to God), this means that it must also be possible for infants to be born of the Spirit — otherwise, they could not receive the kingdom of God.

Matthew 18:1-6. At that time the disciples came to Jesus and said, “Who then is greatest in the kingdom of heaven?'' And He called a child to Himself and set him before them, and said, “Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven Whoever then humbles himself as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoever receives one such child in My name receives Me; but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea."

Matthew 21:15-16. But when the chief priests and the teachers of the law saw the wonderful things he did and the children shouting in the temple area, "Hosanna to the Son of David," they were indignant. "Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, 'From the lips of children and infants you have ordained praise'?"

* Note: Since we already know from God’s Word that infants can receive the Holy Spirit and can receive the kingdom of God, it should not surprise us that Jesus here refers to small children believing in Him (which could also be translated as having faith in Him) and children and infants praising Him. It is the Holy Spirit who creates faith, and the kingdom of God is received by faith.

* Note: Since Jesus says that small children can believe in Him, we can properly speak of small children who are believers in Christ — “Christians.” If they are capable of being Christians, they should not be denied Baptism.

* Note: This (small children being believers) is reflected in early Christian tomb inscriptions. The faith of infants is also referred to in the writings of important teachers in the early church (such as Augustine). Following are quotes from a few pastors and theologians about the faith of these little ones who believe in Christ:




Dr. Martin Chemnitz: "Although we can neither understand nor explain in words what may be the nature of that action or operation of the Holy Spirit in infants who are baptized, nevertheless the Word of God leaves no doubt that such action and operation does occur. This which the Holy Spirit produces in infants we call faith and say that infants believe."

Dr. Johann Gerhard: "Even though we do not understand what all takes place with faith in the tiny, little children, yet we should hold the Word of God in such reverence that we do not deny what it so clearly witnesses to regarding the faith of little children."

Dr. David Scaer: "Surely, if infant brains can process human language and make sense out of their environment, they can process the divine language which proceeds from the mouth of God and calls to faith. It would be strange to assert that the words of the Holy Spirit lack the efficaciousness which human language has with infants."

Dr. William Arndt: “If the question is asked how an infant, unconscious of what is happening around it and unable to understand the meaning of Baptism, can believe, the answer is that not we but the Holy Spirit creates faith in the child receiving Holy Baptism and that He can perform that miracle and take up His dwelling in children as well as in people who are grown up.”

Dr. Robert Kolb: “The Word of God is powerful enough, when uttered, to change even a godless heart, which is no less responsive and helpless than any infant.”

Dr. Lowell Green: “God does not need human cooperation. In fact, faith is the setting aside of our own activity in order that God may work in us.”



* Note: Those who say that a lack of mature reason precludes infants from having faith are encouraged to consider what the Bible says about natural man’s reason and faith -- see, for example: 1 Corinthians 1:18-31, 1 Corinthians 2:14, 1 Corinthians 3:18-20, Romans 8:6-7, 1 Timothy 6:20-21. True wisdom does not precede faith but is given by God and received by the faithful as a gift. The reasoning of an unbelieving adult is not a prerequisite to faith, but rather fights against faith.

Additional resources:

A good discussion of infant Baptism and infant faith can also be found in the novel “The Hammer of God” by Bo Giertz (pages 214-227).

These topics are also addressed in the book “Scriptural Baptism,” which is written in the form of a dialogue between a Lutheran and a Baptist. The book can be read online at: http://www.geocities.com/resourcesforlutherans/infantBaptism.htm

Books well worth purchasing that have excellent discussions of this are “Baptism” by Dr. David P. Scaer (available from CPH.ORG) and “Baptized into God’s Family” by Dr. A. Andrew Das (available from Northwestern Publishing House - Proclaim His salvation day after day). For an outstanding classic treatment, see “A Comprehensive Exploration of Holy Baptism and Lord's Supper” by Johann Gerhard (available from CPH.ORG).

6. ADDITIONAL COMMENTS REGARDING THE ADMINISTRATION OF BAPTISM

In Biblical accounts of Baptism, there was not a lengthy delay between conversion and Baptism (e.g. Acts 2, Acts 8:26-40, Acts 9:-17, Acts 22:1-16, Acts 16:33). They went hand in hand.

Biblical accounts of Baptism indicate that it was not necessary for it to be done publicly. The Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8:26-40), Paul (Acts 9:18, Acts 22:16), and the Philippian jailer and his household (Acts 16:33) were all baptized in private settings. The important thing about what Baptism is what God is doing — freely giving us His gifts as He makes us His children.
 
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I'm sure you read the same Bible as I do, a King James perhaps? What would you suppose King James, an Anglican, thought about baptism?

Who decided the books to be included in the Bible? What would you suppose they thought about baptism?

Why do you think I haven't read the whole New Testament? Because I don't agree with you? Hmmm.

If one reads the entire New Testament he will find cases where profession of faith preceded baptism, and cases where it did not. Examples are in the scriptures I quoted above. In the earliest days of the Church the former was most common because we were in our first generation of believers. As time past the latter became dominant in places where the Church was established. None of this was questioned before the reformation. This is hardly the venue to cover the reasons baptismal doctrine had to change but politics and governmental influance had as much to do with it as Biblical exegesis.
 
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I'm sure you read the same Bible as I do, a King James perhaps? What would you suppose King James, an Anglican, thought about baptism?

Who decided the books to be included in the Bible? What would you suppose they thought about baptism?

Why do you think I haven't read the whole New Testament? Because I don't agree with you? Hmmm.

If one reads the entire New Testament he will find cases where profession of faith preceded baptism, and cases where it did not. Examples are in the scriptures I quoted above. In the earliest days of the Church the former was most common because we were in our first generation of believers. As time past the latter became dominant in places where the Church was established. None of this was questioned before the reformation. This is hardly the venue to cover the reasons baptismal doctrine had to change but politics and governmental influance had as much to do with it as Biblical exegesis.

vjcoppola,

Yes I do KJV and ESV. And I don't just rely on my own natural understanding because the Spirit gives me understanding when I read the Bible (John 14:26).

Have you heard of the verse about God preserving His word:

Psalm 12:6-7 "The words of the LORD are pure words, like silver refined in a furnace on the ground, purified seven times. You, O LORD, will keep them; you will guard us from this generation forever."

My God who created the universe and owns all things and people is the God Almighty who preserved His word. He is sovereign in all things including over those "guys" you said who chose the books to be included in the Bible, over King James or whoever. My Father who is heaven owns them too you see. My God arranges and He ordains.

And why did I suggest that you read the whole new testament in totality... Is not because you do not agree with me... It is because what you say does not agree with the bible especially your idea about infant baptism - it is so unbiblical, a false teaching that you cannot find in the new testament. Deut 4:2 "You shall not add to the word that I command you, nor take from it, that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God that I command you."
 
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"Yes I do KJV and ESV. And I don't just rely on my own natural understanding because the Spirit gives me understanding when I read the Bible (John 14:26)."

Beware of personal revalation. This is how we wound up with 25,000 plus denomnations. They all start with somone reading the Bible and claiming the Holy Spirit told them what it means. That is why it is important to know what the Church has believed over the centuries. Don't belive me. Find out for yourself. Read the Fathers. Read what the guy who authorized one of your versions believed. Learn the baptismal creeds and practices of the first few centuries. It is very interesting reading.

And I did give you sciptures that support the practice of infant baptism. They have been read by many as evidence of baptism prior to faith and convinced as such by the Holy Spirit.

You are correct that it is not mentioned in the Bible. Also not found in the Bible is a teaching that a practice not mentioned in the Bible is incorrect. Check out the procedings of the early Church councils for examples.
 
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"Yes I do KJV and ESV. And I don't just rely on my own natural understanding because the Spirit gives me understanding when I read the Bible (John 14:26)."

Beware of personal revalation. This is how we wound up with 25,000 plus denomnations. They all start with somone reading the Bible and claiming the Holy Spirit told them what it means. That is why it is important to know what the Church has believed over the centuries. Don't belive me. Find out for yourself. Read the Fathers. Read what the guy who authorized one of your versions believed. Learn the baptismal creeds and practices of the first few centuries. It is very interesting reading.

And I did give you sciptures that support the practice of infant baptism. They have been read by many as evidence of baptism prior to faith and convinced as such by the Holy Spirit.

You are correct that it is not mentioned in the Bible. Also not found in the Bible is a teaching that a practice not mentioned in the Bible is incorrect. Check out the procedings of the early Church councils for examples.

Did you read the verse John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you." This is a reality, I told you it was a 'personal' natural revelation. I don't go out saying things unless it is in the bible.

I only believe doctrines that are in the Bible, any other doctrine taught my mere men I do not take on board unless it is in the bible.

I love the Lord and I love His word.
 
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"Yes I do KJV and ESV. And I don't just rely on my own natural understanding because the Spirit gives me understanding when I read the Bible (John 14:26)."

Beware of personal revalation. This is how we wound up with 25,000 plus denomnations. They all start with somone reading the Bible and claiming the Holy Spirit told them what it means. That is why it is important to know what the Church has believed over the centuries. Don't belive me. Find out for yourself. Read the Fathers. Read what the guy who authorized one of your versions believed. Learn the baptismal creeds and practices of the first few centuries. It is very interesting reading.

And I did give you sciptures that support the practice of infant baptism. They have been read by many as evidence of baptism prior to faith and convinced as such by the Holy Spirit.

You are correct that it is not mentioned in the Bible. Also not found in the Bible is a teaching that a practice not mentioned in the Bible is incorrect. Check out the procedings of the early Church councils for examples.

Did you read the verse John 14:26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you." This is a reality, I told you it was not a 'personal' natural understanding. I don't go out saying things unless it is in the bible.

I only believe doctrines that are in the Bible, any other doctrine taught my mere men I do not take on board unless it is in the bible.

I love the Lord and I love His word.
 
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those are handy summaries regarding infant baptism in Scripture. One passage I like to add to those verses is the one from 1 Corinthians 10, where Paul noted that all Israel was baptized in the Red Sea crossing. "All Israel" would have included any and all infants and young children who accompanied their parents. (The same passage makes a good prooftext for paedocommunion as well!)
 
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Those passages are probably talking about Holy Spirit Baptism, and the circumcision of the Heart. Water baptism is a declaration to the world that you stand with Christ.


Asiyreh,

St Paul teaches in Ephesians 4 that there are not two baptisms in the Church, one with water and one with the Holy Spirit, but simply 'one baptism.' This one baptism is with both 'water and Spirit' (John 3:5).
 
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VJ and LilLamb,
those are handy summaries regarding infant baptism in Scripture. One passage I like to add to those verses is the one from 1 Corinthians 10, where Paul noted that all Israel was baptized in the Red Sea crossing. "All Israel" would have included any and all infants and young children who accompanied their parents. (The same passage makes a good prooftext for paedocommunion as well!)

Great point!

Of course we cannot assume that just because it wasn't stated that it isn't true. Just like it doesn't specifically say to baptize blondes or overweight people. :cool:

When Jesus says to baptize ALL nations, that doesn't exclude babies just because some men don't believe that God could possibly be at work in baptism.
 
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Yes, that is another good ref, tnx. I had a hard time with this at one time too. The important factors for me were the connection to circumcision and God's promise to Abraham and the significance of the early Church. Nobody reads history anymore.

God Bless all,
Vince
 
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Do you have a church home near where you live now? If so, you should talk with the minister of that church.

Your decision to accept the atoning sacrifice which Christ made on our behalf is just that, a decision. It is for you to decide as to whether you will accept what God himself has already accomplished on your behalf through the work of his Son, Jesus Christ, as absolving you of your sins. Everything which follows must begin with that conscious decision.

As for being rebaptized, there are some things you need to know. Since you were baptized as an infant I suspect that the denomination in which you grew up had catechetical classes. It would have been only after successfully completing this series of classes that you would have been asked certain questions regarding your personal acceptance of the Christian faith, such as whether you accept The Apostles Creed as true. On the basis of your answers to these questions in the affirmative you would have been accepted into full membership of that denomination.

Those denominations which claim that there must a a baptism following accepting Jesus Christ fall into two main categories: Those who claim that it must be done in order to be saved, and those who claim that it isn't absolutely necessary for salvation, but it shows God the Father that you are willing to be obedient to his will. In both cases baptism is solely through full immersion.

With those denominations which claim that baptism by immersion is necessary in order to achieve salvation, their demands don't end there. After the person is baptized as that church accepts baptism, then that person is presented with a never-ending list of Do's and Don't's which he must attend to or else lose his salvation. I call this 'salvation on a stick' due to the leaders of those denominations' teaching that there is always 'one more thing' that needs to be done in order to cement their saved status. And usually that 'one more thing' involves the person's accepting ever more zealously whatever agenda the leadership of that church is really promoting. This includes accepting The Creation Story as a literal 6-day event, accepting The Great Flood as a literal event, accepting The Tower of Babel as a literal event, and in some cases accepting that africans are the descendants of Ham, and so are cursed, as a literal event.

With those denominations who teach baptism by full immersion as unnecessary for salvation, they still claim that it is to be done in order to show God the person's willingness to carry out his instructions. They stop short of insisting that baptism by full immersion must be submitted to in order to achieve salvation, but they still claim that those who don't go through with it have not really given themselves entirely to God.

But understand this: With both types of these denominations it is the baptism itself that transfers your membership from the church where you originally had it to the church that is performing the ritual baptism. Even if they claim that the baptism will only be to accomplish what God wants of us, don't believe it. They will have found out where you were originally a member, and they will contact that church in order to tell them that you have transferred your membership (one member who knew about this told me it was 'increasing the body count', through adding new members to their denomination). And since many of these denominations claim that they are the only 'true church', their heirarchy will refuse to transfer your membership back to the church where you wanted it. Instead, if you choose to return to your original church, you will have to go through the process of catechetical classes all over again.

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So I was baptized after birth, but after I came to age of being able to question and wanting to question all things, I "lost" my faith. Now coming back to this path later in life, is it required to get baptized again? Or do I confess to God and ask for forgiveness for losing ky way with Him?

You should talk to a priest about what you need to do. And no, you don't need another baptism. There is only one baptism, and the grace of the sacrament stays with you forever. :)
 
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So I was baptized after birth, but after I came to age of being able to question and wanting to question all things, I "lost" my faith. Now coming back to this path later in life, is it required to get baptized again? Or do I confess to God and ask for forgiveness for losing ky way with Him?

Also a small side question, about prayers, where does one find them in the bibl

There is only one baptism. You don't need to be baptized again. You're correct- you simply need confession.

Some resources on and about prayer:
ALL the Prayers of the Bible
P r a y e r
Let us
The Message of the Lord's Prayer
Abbreviated Prayerbook
 
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Also a small side question, about prayers, where does one find them in the bibl

I don't know if this makes any sense to anyone, but the only way I can come even close to understanding God is to think of Him as a real dad and us as very small children. So when I pray I talk to my Dad. Sometimes I even call him Dad. May I suggest instead of looking for prayers talk to Him about what you feel, what you want, just like you would if you were a small child and He was your earthly Father.

Don't know if I made sense or helped.

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There is only one baptism.

I'm only telling you what New Hope does which makes sense to me. We can give our child to God, but he/she decides on being baptized on his/her own when the child understands what he/she is doing. My son was baptized at about 12 1/2 and I was just baptized Nov 18th of this year, though my mom told me I was baptized as a baby.

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Hello Rick,
It is a rite, actually a sacrament in some churches, where a person who was baptized as an infant makes an adult decision to to live as a Christian. As baptism replaced circumcision confirmation replaces bar and bat mitzvah.
 
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Discussions like these remind us of why it is dangerous to try to determine exactly when we got saved, whether we lost it, and how to get it back. We should pursue God moving forward, and not feel condemned about the past... at any stage of our journey.

I like the way Theologian R.C. Sproul described it. Even as an outspoken Calvinist, he said that we cannot know when we are saved. He cited his wife as an example of someone who has no idea when and how it happened. In R.C.'s case, there was a dramatic moment, but even then... he says that things may have been in motion in his mind and heart long before then. Who can say?

To the OP: you are in a great place on your life's journey. God always welcomes us back when we stray! You are still a member of God's family. The prodigal son in Luke 15 did not have to DO anything to get back into his family. He only had to return, and his father ran to meet him.
 
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