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Since the Australian government closed all churches in Australia, feeding the less fortunate has become a problem in itself. Many restrictions now apply for those charity organisations that operated outside, and most common necessities (Mobile showers) are now gone.

I find this behaviour startling, as I myself have been accessing most Christian charity groups for assistance in the past 3 months. You may remember a forum member of this forum who was posting many thread's about being in and out of hospital due to schizophrenia. Was living out of one backpack, and eventually headed out to Brisbane/QLD

Kelly Tyler will remember him, hopefully :/

Of course that member was me, and I was ridiculed & mocked on this forum for years, just preparing for a day like today. Remember that forum member who also managed to stop all his medication, then still people of this forum dismissed his findings over their own beliefs.

Currently it has been 14 months since that last member appeared. But now I can see that all my work was not in vain.

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The Australian Government hasn't "closed Churches" but has banned gatherings of two or more people at social gatherings in an effort to "social distance" the population. This ban operates across the spectrum - it affects sports clubs, hotels, cafes - you name it. Churches have been affected obviously.

Australians are banned from holding social gatherings of more than TWO people | Daily Mail Online

Charities have been affected. Charities in general and Op-shops are largely staffed by volunteers, who don't have to go to work and risk getting the virus if they do. So they've been closed. This will affect revenue, but on the other hand the government is giving some money to charitable organisations, but more needs to be done.

https://www.fpmagazine.com.au/chari...pport-in-coronavirus-stimulus-package-373470/

In our Saint Vincent de Paul Society conference (across the board actually) face to face meetings are out. However we can still talk to the clients on the phone, and drop off assistance to their home. Conference meetings are out, which we usually hold on a monthly basis (I suppose we could learn to hook up with Zoom or some other online method, but I don't think we're at that stage yet).

There's no doubt the restrictions on social distancing are affecting disadvantaged in particular. But to disregard it would greatly contribute to a rapid increase in infections, an overworked health system, and many more deaths.

In a sense, what was a public health crisis has really become a public financial and economic crisis.

It's very inconvenient, but so far Australia has been fortunate enough to have only had 5350 cases and 26 deaths. Compare that to Spain and Italy. Of course we've got ocean borders all round, which helps, but it is here, and it could easily spread if not limited.
 
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The Australian Government hasn't "closed Churches" but has banned gatherings of two or more people at social gatherings in an effort to "social distance" the population. This ban operates across the spectrum - it affects sports clubs, hotels, cafes - you name it. Churches have been affected obviously.

Australians are banned from holding social gatherings of more than TWO people | Daily Mail Online

Charities have been affected. Charities in general and Op-shops are largely staffed by volunteers, who don't have to go to work and risk getting the virus if they do. So they've been closed. This will affect revenue, but on the other hand the government is giving some money to charitable organisations, but more needs to be done.

https://www.fpmagazine.com.au/chari...pport-in-coronavirus-stimulus-package-373470/

In our Saint Vincent de Paul Society conference (across the board actually) face to face meetings are out. However we can still talk to the clients on the phone, and drop off assistance to their home. Conference meetings are out, which we usually hold on a monthly basis (I suppose we could learn to hook up with Zoom or some other online method, but I don't think we're at that stage yet).

There's no doubt the restrictions on social distancing are affecting disadvantaged in particular. But to disregard it would greatly contribute to a rapid increase in infections, an overworked health system, and many more deaths.

In a sense, what was a public health crisis has really become a public financial and economic crisis.

It's very inconvenient, but so far Australia has been fortunate enough to have only had 5350 cases and 26 deaths. Compare that to Spain and Italy. Of course we've got ocean borders all round, which helps, but it is here, and it could easily spread if not limited.
What does the Church care if they give up their lives for people? Sell all you have, and spread it around. What has Christianity as a whole got to lose?
 
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Without the formal church to back it up, evangelism would have an impossible job. Critics might point to the earliest church as not being formalised, but they were already in the habit of meeting together on a Sunday.

Governor Pliny to Emperor Trajan - "...They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn .."

While the church services and masses are effectively not being attended, something is missing. We accept it for the time being as being part of the greater good, but it will be a relief when the crisis is over.
 
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Without the formal church to back it up, evangelism would have an impossible job. Critics might point to the earliest church as not being formalised, but they were already in the habit of meeting together on a Sunday.

Governor Pliny to Emperor Trajan - "...They asserted, however, that the sum and substance of their fault or error had been that they were accustomed to meet on a fixed day before dawn .."

While the church services and masses are effectively not being attended, something is missing. We accept it for the time being as being part of the greater good, but it will be a relief when the crisis is over.
After this crisis is over all religions will crumble, and eventually our current monetary system will be scrapped.
 
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