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metherion

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Hello.
I'm back. And probably for good after this week.
I'm graduating from college on the 31st if all goes well, with only one paper and one presentation really standing in my way. (chemical engineering, bachelor's)

So, I thought I'd celebrate my first post back with something that has always puzzled me. And here it is. (and I'm serious about this; I'm really curious at how it is explained. I wouldn't mess around with my first post back here.)

At exactly what time do historic records become unreliable according to YECism?

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If there had been a worldwide flood, then all humanity at that point would have been erased except for Noah and his family. Ignoring monuments, like the pyramids, ignoring things like metal artifacts, ignoring all that, if one day (or year, whichever you prefer to say, since it started on one day but lasted a whole year) a worldwide flood happened and killed everyone, all written history during, and maybe even before that time would be untrustworthy. All ancient records around the world during that day and for that entire year must have been faked, even the continuous ones.

And, needless to say, since ancient history is still sketchy on some exact dates back then (though often the decade or at the very least century is right), and the ancient dates haven't all been lined up to the current BC/AD system yet, how do you tell which are and which are not reliable? Needless to say, all the texts which I'm speaking about must at some point contradicts an inferred literal reading of the Bible by describing the reign of a king or length of a war/peace or some other event during the period the Flood, which obviously couldn't happen had the Flood actually happened.

Or also, continues cities that have had continuous history before the Flood but go through the time period of the Flood?

Or, even more bizarre, Uruk, supposedly founded by Nimrod, a great grandson of Noah and therefore having to had lived after the earliest ruins of the city?

(perhaps in another 1-2 thousand years, if this debate is still around, people can start asking "When exactly does carbon dating become inaccurate?" since the period the Flood was supposed to be in will have passed the 5k year minimum threshold)

At exactly what point can we determine where these continuous things have been messed with? If we can't, how can we decide and justify it?

Metherion

PS: I probably won't be on again till tomorrow. Today goes something like: class at 9AM, presentation prep at 11, presentation at 1:30, class at 5, banquet with open bar from 6:30 to 10. Needless to say, seeing at how it's 5:30 and I can't sleep when I post this, I'll be a bit out of it, so don't think I'm ignoring you.
 

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Some suggest that there is evidence of flood deposits in the Great Pyramid.

Theoretically, the megalith structures of some areas are pre-flood.

One has to accept an awful of radiocarbon dating to believe that Damascus was continuously occupied for over 5,000 years.
 
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Hello.
I'm back. And probably for good after this week.
I'm graduating from college on the 31st if all goes well, with only one paper and one presentation really standing in my way. (chemical engineering, bachelor's)

So, I thought I'd celebrate my first post back with something that has always puzzled me. And here it is. (and I'm serious about this; I'm really curious at how it is explained. I wouldn't mess around with my first post back here.)

At exactly what time do historic records become unreliable according to YECism?

For clarity:
If there had been a worldwide flood, then all humanity at that point would have been erased except for Noah and his family. Ignoring monuments, like the pyramids, ignoring things like metal artifacts, ignoring all that, if one day (or year, whichever you prefer to say, since it started on one day but lasted a whole year) a worldwide flood happened and killed everyone, all written history during, and maybe even before that time would be untrustworthy. All ancient records around the world during that day and for that entire year must have been faked, even the continuous ones.

And, needless to say, since ancient history is still sketchy on some exact dates back then (though often the decade or at the very least century is right), and the ancient dates haven't all been lined up to the current BC/AD system yet, how do you tell which are and which are not reliable? Needless to say, all the texts which I'm speaking about must at some point contradicts an inferred literal reading of the Bible by describing the reign of a king or length of a war/peace or some other event during the period the Flood, which obviously couldn't happen had the Flood actually happened.

Or also, continues cities that have had continuous history before the Flood but go through the time period of the Flood?

Or, even more bizarre, Uruk, supposedly founded by Nimrod, a great grandson of Noah and therefore having to had lived after the earliest ruins of the city?

(perhaps in another 1-2 thousand years, if this debate is still around, people can start asking "When exactly does carbon dating become inaccurate?" since the period the Flood was supposed to be in will have passed the 5k year minimum threshold)

At exactly what point can we determine where these continuous things have been messed with? If we can't, how can we decide and justify it?

Metherion

PS: I probably won't be on again till tomorrow. Today goes something like: class at 9AM, presentation prep at 11, presentation at 1:30, class at 5, banquet with open bar from 6:30 to 10. Needless to say, seeing at how it's 5:30 and I can't sleep when I post this, I'll be a bit out of it, so don't think I'm ignoring you.
Simple. There is no evidence of civilization before the flood. All present ideas on dates are wrong where they conflict with the bible.
There is very little evidence on which to even judge any dating of mans habitations.
 
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Terribly sorry about the delay. However, I'm now graduated and free.

So, I'm to understand from your two responses that the answer is "How the age was found must be wrong, period?"

So, at what point does it become wrong? I'm sure your assertion isn't that nothing in the past is known about.
There must be SOME point at which everything "goes wrong", right?
Where is it?

Metherion
 
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Simple. There is no evidence of civilization before the flood. All present ideas on dates are wrong where they conflict with the bible.
There is very little evidence on which to even judge any dating of mans habitations.
Why are the dates wrong. Please provide a detailed answer with references to peer reviewed published data.

Your continued assertions (without evidence) is most distressing and intellectually unsound.
 
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