Babies teeth

[Chris†opher Paul]

My son is getting his first tooth. How does this programming evolve to be timed so exactly to other babies development?

I just dont understand how things like this could be naturally selected. If some baby didn't get teeth till later, the baby could still eat. Teeth are a nice convience, but they aren't going to make a difference to a babies later ability to procreate. The baby will still survive without teeth at the specified time, so if it evolved, shouldn't it be more spread out in terms of time? For example, the baby could get teeth at around 2 years of age, since it would still be nursing on mother's milk...

Just a small example of the type of problem I am having with evolution and our programming. Sorry if that doesnt make sense...

 

[LiveFreeOrDie]

Well, you have to think back to what things were like for our ancestors 100,000 years ago, when there wasn't any baby food in jars from the Gerber company. Teeth were absolutely necessary in order for a baby to increase his calorie intake beyond what he could get from his mother's milk.

The timing of tooth eruption happens to coincide with the growing child's increased calorie demands. Makes sense, doesn't it, that children who get their teeth just when they need them most would have a better chance of sustaining a healthy growth rate and thus surviving to procreate.

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

But many feed on JUST mother's milk...look at third world countries, etc. Tribes and other "primitive" cultures.

 

[LiveFreeOrDie]

Irrelevant.

The question is: Who is more likely to survive -- the child who can start eating solid foods atl 1 yr old, or the child who can start eating solid foods at 2 yrs old?

 

[Chris†opher Paul]

Originally posted by LiveFreeOrDie
Irrelevant.

The question is: Who is more likely to survive -- the child who can start eating solid foods atl 1 yr old, or the child who can start eating solid foods at 2 yrs old?

It doesnt seem to matter. My son has been eating solid foods for awhile now, he just gums them until the are soft enough. *shrug*

 

[OneLargeToe]

My son has been eating solid foods for awhile now, he just gums them until the are soft enough. *shrug*

Give him some nuts and roots and see if he can gum that down.

 

[My Higher Self]

Keep in mind that modern technology has had a major impact on our ability to evolve as animals.

Modern technology makes it so we don't have to work as hard, so eventually we may find that as a species we will grow weaker overall, maybe in another 100 years you will find that teeth don't come in until a later age, because of all the softer foods now available. Also, diseases, birth defects, hereditary problems, etc, are now finding their way into survival. People that would normally not be able to live at all are now leading somewhat nomal lives and perpetuating illness/problems that may or may not have died off through our adaptation. (no, I don't think there is anything wrong with that...just an observation).

The ability to evolve and adapt is a very very long and complicated process. You can't expect changes is human construction for changes that have only affected us over the past 100 or even 1000 years.

 

 

[Praxiteles]

Souljah,

It's completely understandable that you find such things to be inexplicable to you via the medium of natural selection.

However, like most things in life, if something is inexplicable to us, that certainly doesn't meant that it is inexplicable. It simply means that we don't possess the understanding. As is the case here with you and your sons tooth.

You don't imagine for a second that such things haven't occurred to biologists, do you? Of course you don't!

Biologists, with the application of the ToE, are easily able to understand the mechanics of how developmental timings have developed (for want of a better word).

So, just because you can't see how it works doesn't mean that it doesn't work.

Cheers,
Prax

 

[ocean]

We are not animals. We are human beings.

 

[Praxiteles]

Originally posted by ocean
We are not animals. We are human beings.

Hey there, Ocean!

I don't follow.  That's like saying "This is not a car.  It's a Volvo!"  Yes, as humans, we are unique.  However, we cannot avoid the fact that we are mammals, and as such are animals.

Cheers,

Prax

 

[lithium.]

I am glad I'm a Mammal.

 

[Praxiteles]

Originally posted by seesaw
I am glad I'm a Mammal.

So's your Mum!

 

[My Higher Self]

Originally posted by ocean
We are not animals. We are human beings.

Praxiteles makes a very valid point against this....

We are in fact animals, this is not arguable, its a scientific fact. Even though we may be more advanced and many of us seem to consider ourselves better than the rest of the animal kingdom that opinion does not alter the fact that we are animals.

However...that is not the point at hand...the point was evolution. Even if don't believe evolution as a source of creation, even if you believe in the biblical Adam and Eve, you would be naive to think that mankind will not evolve over the coming thousands of years, and that we will not adapt to the world we create.   

 

[paulewog]

My off topic message for the day...

We're animals?

"Let us create man in Our image." ..... animals weren't created in God's image.

 

[Praxiteles]

Hi Paul.

Who's to say that God can't create animals in his image?

Aren't you trying to limit him? Genesis didn't say that we aren't animals - just that God created us in his image.

Cheers,
Prax

PS Cool hat.

 

[TheBear]

*** Fireman's Helmet On ***


Please....No animal-bashing, or this thread will be closed!



*** Chef's Hat Off ***

 

[paulewog]

/me likes my hat

Of course I'm not limiting.

However, God told us in Genesis that He created the animals... and THEN He siad, "Let us now create man in our own image." He reiterated that over and over, also.

Furthermore, He expressly GAVE man dominion and authority, and also the responsbility, over all the animals.

Genesis 1 and 2 are very interesting

 

[Praxiteles]

Originally posted by paulewog
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Of course I'm not limiting.

However, God told us in Genesis that He created the animals... and THEN He siad, "Let us now create man in our own image." He reiterated that over and over, also.

Furthermore, He expressly GAVE man dominion and authority, and also the responsbility, over all the animals.

Genesis 1 and 2 are very interesting

I know this sounds petty, but it still doesn't say that we aren't animals, does it?

In fact, physically speaking, there's no doubt that we share much more in common with other animals than we do with supernatural beings.

So, yes, God did say he created us in his image.  Animals in God's image.

Cheers,

Prax

 

[TheBear]

Perhaps it is best clarified by saying that God made man in His image.

 

[paulewog]

Good point, Bear

Ok, so, since we are animals, why didn't God create us with the rest of the animals. We aren't cattle, or beasts of the field, or something that creeps on the earth, or birds, or fish. Obviously we aren't, since we weren't created with them.

You also ignored or forgot or something the part in my post about dominion, authority, and responsbility. So apparently we are animals that are not greater at all, but we have dominion and authority and the responsbility to take caer of the whole world. Including our fellow animals.

Furthermore, Genesis 2 talks about the creation of man more in depth.

It's rather silly to say, "Well God didn't say we aren't animals, thus it is possible we are" when He told us exactly how He created us.... differently and seperate than the animals, and in His image.

Ya know what? God never TOLD us that Mary, Mary, Peter, and John had the RIGHT tomb. But not many people believe they went to the wrong one and found it empty.

God never TOLD us evolution wasn't true, but told us how He CREATED the world.

God never TOLD us that we aren't animals, but told us we WERE in His image....

And, by the way, if God created animals in His image, then they would have

1) Intellect
2) Emotions
3) Will.

They might have emotions, but they don't have an intellect and a will. They don't think, and they don't decide.