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AWC refuted

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Augustine_Was_Calvinist

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Jesus was the only One who COULD obey the Law. As theanthropos He and He only could fulfill the Law, and did so on the behalf of the Elect.

You are apparently misunderstanding what legalism is.

Legalism is not upholding the law.

Legalism is thinking you can be justified by keeping the Law, which you say the OT Jews were, as did the Pharisees.
 
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Augustine Was Calvinist said:
What Dipsy preaches is nothing short of what the Pharisees taught, legalism.

Dispy said:
Matthew 5:17 Think not tht I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.

Jesus fulfilled the Law by not violating any part of it. Was Jesus a legalist?

Matthew 23:1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that OBSERVE AND DO...

AWC, are you doing what Christ commanded in Matthew 23:1-3? If you aren't, Why not? If you are, then you are just as good as the Pharisees.

Augustine Was Calvinist said:
You are apparently misunderstanding what legalism is.

Legalism is not upholding the law.

Legalism is thinking you can be justified by keeping the Law, which you say the OT Jews were, as did the Pharisees.

From WEBSTER'S AMERICAN DICTIONARY - College Edition

Le-gal-ism 1. strict adherence to law or prescription, esp. to the letter rather than the spirit. 2. the theological doctrine that salvation is gained through good works.

Now that you know what "legalism" is, maybe you would like to answer my question. However, knowing you past performance, YOU WON'T.

I even made it real easy for you a have me to once again embrace Calvinism. You won't even do that. WHAT A GUY!!!
 
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Augustine_Was_Calvinist said:
No, I understand what Dispy has said very clearly. It is the same heresy that has been taught in some dispensational circles for years. To expose and oppose it is not harassment at all, it is a Biblical mandate.

Now, to the touchy feely Rodney King types they may incorrectly call it that, but they do so in ignorance.

By the way, I don't hate dispensationalism either, but thats a nice try at demonizing though.

LOL! How pathetic. Can't convince anyone - so you start with the false accusations. :doh:
 
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