Augustinianism VS Calvinism

[Ecclesia Reformata]

Can someone tell me what are the differences in St. Augustine's Theology as opposed (and in agreement with) John Calvin's Calvinism (TULIP)??

I know they were similiar in their heavy focus on predestination and grace, but what were the differences? (Doctrinal--I'm not asking about the individuals).

Also, do Catholics today follow Augustinianism? I know that most Catholics I talk to don't believe in the predestination that St. Augustine believed in.

 

[thereselittleflower]

AKK

I thought I was somewhere else (see Christy? I told you I wasn't feeling well . . I don't even know where I am any more!) and I just invited you to OBOB to post this there . .well I mean here! I am feeling a little like pooh right now . .. )

There some here who can really answer this and I hope they will show up soon for you!

Welcome to OBOB Ecclesia! I am glad you stopped in to ask your question!


Peace in Him!

 

[twex]

James Akin wrote a comprehensive Catholic response to the tulip:

A Tiptoe Through TULIP

The idea that a person can be predestined to come to God yet not be predestined to stay the course may be new to Calvinists and may sound strange to them, but it did not sound strange to Augustine, Aquinas, or even Luther. Calvinists frequently cite these men as "Calvinists before Calvin." While they did hold high views of predestination, they did not draw Calvin's inference that all who are ever saved are predestined to remain in grace. Instead, their faith was informed by the biblical teaching that some who enter the sphere of grace go on to leave it.

 

[thereselittleflower]

bump

I originally invited Ecclesia to OBOB to ask questions telling her how great everyone here is . . so I hope her question will get more response . . so I am "bumping" it up!


Peace in Him!

 

[bigsierra]

Great link, twex. Lots of well documented info. It pretty much so says it all on an easy to understand level, for Calvinist.

edited to add:
Looking back, it deals more with Thomas Aquinas, but St. Augustine is in there too.